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In laws won’t help with childcare.

449 replies

WhatsMyUsername89 · 28/05/2024 21:59

Can’t work out if I’m sounding like an entitled little cow or if I’m actually in the right.

DC is 2 years old & has recently broken her ankle.

current childcare arrangement is 1 day my DP, 1 day in laws & 1.5 day nursery.

due to this ankle break nursery have said she can come in, but only if she’s not requiring regular Calpol. She’s absolutely fine, but is still needing some Calpol & is fine once she’s had the Calpol.

my parents work but have reduced to 4 days per week to have DD one day.

Father in law doesn’t work, never has & mother in law WFH. So when they have DD MIL is working upstairs & FIL is with DD.

We are struggling with childcare but in laws have made it very clear they don’t want to help out. MIL is on leave this week; & has said “ we’re going XYZ on Fridays” (day DD is in nursery).

i asked if they could help out with childcare and they said “well I guess we don’t have a choice.” But then 2hrs later said they had instead decided to book something so couldn’t.

myself & DH have had quite a bit of time off juggling this ankle break.

I understand that DD isn’t in laws responsibility but I just feel pissed off they won’t help. It’s not for bloody ever!!!!

OP posts:
Itloggedmeoutagain · 29/05/2024 12:09

saraclara · 29/05/2024 11:33

They're already helping by having DGD for a day every week. But on this occasion, MIL has annual leave and the PILs planned to go away. No way would I ever have asked my parents to cancel a break and use their own leave to look after my child.

They hadn't already booked.
In op it says they agreed and then changed 2 hours later

wendycupcakes · 29/05/2024 12:10

Iwasafool · 29/05/2024 12:06

And?

🙄

saraclara · 29/05/2024 12:14

Itloggedmeoutagain · 29/05/2024 12:09

They hadn't already booked.
In op it says they agreed and then changed 2 hours later

MIL had booked annual leave in order to go away. Changing their mind wasn't ideal, but maybe OP caught them on the hop, or only spoke to one of them.

HAF1119 · 29/05/2024 12:21

Can your daughter go in for 6 hours after a calpol dose then pick up and give the next dose? Should cover the half day, May cover most the full day?

YouveGotAFastCar · 29/05/2024 12:28

WhatsMyUsername89 · 29/05/2024 08:34

Sorry; nursery will administer Calpol, but once any child has had Calpol they have to go home. So it doesn’t matter if we were to come in, they’d still need him to go home because of the policy.

Honestly I'd change nurseries. This is a ludicrous policy that will cost you a fortune over the years.

I thought it was annoying that my nursery require me to give permission in writing every day they want to give him calpol, but they'll happily give it to him, every four hours if he needs it, and they only require them to come home if they're upset and Calpol doesn't help.

He has only needed one dose while there, once, but some of his friends have needed a fair amount. If they got sent home every time they had it, they'd have been off work forever.

ChrisPPancake · 29/05/2024 12:30

WhatsMyUsername89 · 29/05/2024 08:34

Sorry; nursery will administer Calpol, but once any child has had Calpol they have to go home. So it doesn’t matter if we were to come in, they’d still need him to go home because of the policy.

Give her Calpol in the morning. Take her home for lunch and give the next dose, then back to nursery. Give the next dose at pick up.

She'll have had what she needs and nursery haven't given Calpol. You don't need to tell them you have as they won't be giving her any.

Means you only need to take an hour or so unpaid leave instead of a whole day.

BodenCardiganNot · 29/05/2024 12:32

So your thread back in February about taking a 'village' to raise a child was all on behalf of a 'friend'?? The 12 page thread where none of the grandparents did anything despite none of them working?

bananaramaterry · 29/05/2024 12:34

BodenCardiganNot · 29/05/2024 12:32

So your thread back in February about taking a 'village' to raise a child was all on behalf of a 'friend'?? The 12 page thread where none of the grandparents did anything despite none of them working?

And the one about her DH being in prison, that's a friend also.

murmuration · 29/05/2024 12:37

WhatsMyUsername89 · 29/05/2024 08:34

Sorry; nursery will administer Calpol, but once any child has had Calpol they have to go home. So it doesn’t matter if we were to come in, they’d still need him to go home because of the policy.

Oh, that was going to be my suggestion. But can you get 4 hours by giving Calpol at home and dropping him off - so you or DH could do a half day work before having to get him?

Naunet · 29/05/2024 12:43

Flickersy · 29/05/2024 08:59

Most people manage to do things for themselves as well as work full time, helping with grandchildren etc. Its not an either-or situation.

That really depends what their passions are, if it’s knitting, sure, if it’s travelling, not so much. And let’s not talk about people because it’s mostly not men being asked to give up golf at the weekends in order to provide regular childcare for their grandkids, is it?

betterangels · 29/05/2024 12:47

eggplant16 · 29/05/2024 11:51

Are the GP landed gentry? How come a man has never worked in his life?

Perhaps because his wife has been the one working? Wives on here stay at home without working. They're not being laughed at the way OP has laughed at her FIL while at same time thinking he should happily look after her child.

TorturedPoetsDepartmentAnthology · 29/05/2024 12:48

Iwasafool · 29/05/2024 11:45

Families work in different ways, I certain feel a responsibility to my GC and my adult children all feel a responsibility to their nieces and nephews. Personally I don't find having children around is very tiring, if anything it keeps me young. Other people can feel differently but a blanket statement like yours does not apply to all of us.

Do you work full time? Or close to full time? I know a lot of grandparents who are working full time or close to it!

Naunet · 29/05/2024 12:50

HoobleDooble · 29/05/2024 11:12

They don't have to help with childcare but, playing by the same rules, you also don't have to help with running around after them, taking them to medical appointments etc. in a few years time when they're struggling. My parents and m-i-l both helped us a lot when DS was little and boy are they ever getting their investment back in lifts, DIY jobs and shopping deliveries 15 years on! 😁

So even though both sets are providing regular weekly childcare for OP, it’s not enough for them to expect anything in return from OP and her partner?! Jesus Christ, the absolute entitlement from some people…

liann34 · 29/05/2024 12:51

What a mad policy about the Calpol. She's not ill, she's got an injury!

Crankyandco · 29/05/2024 12:57

Beyond entitled. I have 3 under 5 and get zero help from parents or inlaws. Your parents /inlaws have done their time raising kids. You are not entitled to their time. Check yourself.

Pukfair · 29/05/2024 12:58

Families should surely help each other in emergencies surely. The fact that the inlaws babysit their grandchild once a week is not really relevant when there is a very short term medical emergency that also has to be dealt with and the man doesn’t work so is free to help for a couple of days.

Toomanyemails · 29/05/2024 13:12

Can your companies support you and DP any more? My DP's company offers an allowance like sick leave but for when a family member is sick, and it's paid. I think it's quite unusual here, though mandated in my home country for employees. Or just WFH if one of you can, maybe flexing hours a bit to better keep an eye on DD?
Or can you challenge the nursery re the Calpol, especially if you're still paying for days you can't use? If they're refunding you, can you use that budget to book a childminder?
Re your in laws, sorry but you do sound entitled.

ZoeCM · 29/05/2024 13:13

It's very generous of them to provide (free, I'm guessing?) childcare one day every week! I can't believe you're complaining that they aren't doing more.

Technonan · 29/05/2024 13:16

Good grief. If I did that much childcare for my grandchildren, and my DIL started whinging that I wasn't doing enough, I'd probably down tools completely. Relatives, especially grandpaprents, will do what they feel able to do. My contribution (I do still work) is to help out in emergencies, and have my GDs to stay occasionally to give their parents a break. My DS and DIL are very appreciative of that, and I'm happy to do it.

HollyKnight · 29/05/2024 13:23

I wonder if the issue is that you've decided that work trumps everything and therefore your PIL's time is less valuable than your own parents' time so you expect your PIL to make themselves more available than your own parents because nothing is as important as work.

"My parents can't help out more because they work, but PIL could help out more because their plans just aren't as important."

I can imagine your PIL's being reluctant to help out more if that is your attitude to their time.

TomatoSandwiches · 29/05/2024 13:23

cannonballz · 29/05/2024 07:03

It is no use for the OP now, but for anyone else reading, it is possible to insure your child against this sort of situation. I did. Mine were avid footballers, and I used to dread a broken leg, or similar. I took out sports insurance from quite an early age. As it happened, I never used it, but it wasn't expensive, gave me piece of mind, and I would not have had to go into debt had they had a broken bone that required me to take weeks of work

I wish there was something like that for disabled children, our youngest was sent across the country for major surgery at 2 weeks old, didn't come home for 6 months and we ended up in debt due to that had to leave work and be a SAHM/Carer eventually due to the medical issues and appointments.

CharlotteBog · 29/05/2024 13:24

OP says "This is the thing with the internet, things are not always as they seem"

OK.

Errors · 29/05/2024 13:25

Haha - my own mother has looked after my child about three times for an hour each in his whole life. He is now 8 and I don’t blame her for that!

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 29/05/2024 13:32

JurassicFantastic · 28/05/2024 22:46

Oh OP I get it.

I'm not sure "entitled" is the best description. You must be exhausted, worried and desperately trying to figure out how to piece together emergency childcare without losing your job.

I've been there. When my DC were younger their grandparents used to constantly bemoan how little time they got with them but then also declined to help with childcare when I desperately needed it. It's frustrating and confusing.

I think your ILs are already doing a fair bit of childcare which is good of them - and to me you don't sound ungrateful. I get why it's frustrating to see people who ask to spend more time with their grandchildren suddenly backing off from that when you are desperately trying to piece together enough childcare in an emergency.

Your frustrations are understandable but ultimately your ILs aren't doing anything wrong. Hope you find a solution.

Would FIL drive to nursery and give her the Calpol ... She might not need it for the full six weeks as the break heals, so that would only be maybe one or two times. It would take maybe an hour out of his busy day once or twice and not require much extra input from him.

Plus nursery would see that she can cope. She'd be more distracted than at home and thinking about it less. In my experience after ops ect... its always a real annoyance in first few days or first week, but then the healing gets progressively better each day.

I agree with @JurassicFantastic They are really giving out mixed messages here. And medical emergencies are always difficult if you are both trying to hold down a job too. Times are tight.

I don't think you are being entitled asking them if they've said they want more time and its for a specific temporary time. Anyone would do the same, ask around to see who could help out with a temporary situation.
But at the same time, they've made it really clear they are not willing to do it. So in a way that's that and you may as well move on and find another solution.

You have your GP's letter and presumably a picture of DDs cast. Maybe your employers would be more flexible, does your contract allow parental sick leave? Or could you take it in turns to visit Nursery to administer and go back to work. They might be amenable to that.

Luxell934 · 29/05/2024 13:36

WhatsMyUsername89 · 29/05/2024 08:25

This is the thing with the internet, things are not always as they seem.

Not all these posts are mine; some are posted on behalf of friends. For one example my DH is obviously not in prison for 10yrs as he’s currently helping out with our DD while she has a broken.

Maybe time for a name change OP