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My mum is ‘inviting’ herself on my family holiday and taking over my life AIBU?

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Whatthefuckwasthat · 26/05/2024 08:25

I am sorry if this post seems rambled, I’m currently spiralling.
There’s a huge backstory to this which is why it may not make complete sense.

Growing up my mum was an alcoholic. She had long periods is sobriety and always tried to fight it but would always relapse and go on a bender for several days until she reached rock bottom and the cycle would continue.

When sober she is very loving, kind and thoughtful. She is intelligent, personable and goes out of her way to help people. When drunk is a very different person and has done and said some extreme awful/hurtful things. I have siblings but we are not close.

After university I moved to the other side of the country. Here, entirely from scratch, I built a career and made lots of friends who became my family. I met my DP and we’ve gone on to have 2 kids.

Through this my mum continued to be up and down with alcohol. When she was on the bottle she’d ring me and be volatile and cause chaos within the family back home. Then when she’d sober up she’d resume back to lovely daily phone calls and visits to see me.

When she was on drink I was so happy to have the distance and ‘new life’ I’d created for myself.

From 2017 - 21 she had several mental breakdowns which I supported but subsequently caused me a great deal of pain. Shes never had many friends and the few contacts she had she lost through her volatile drunken behaviour as well as a lot of the family which she’s never been able to reconcile.

Since then she’s drank less and less and now been a year sober and is into fitness and wellness. She then came into some money and decided to buy a house in my new town as well as keeping her other house the other side of the country to live between the two.
She said this was so we can be closer and she can see the grandchildren grow up.

In theory this is good as when she is sober we’re close and enjoy each others company. However now it’s happened issues are starting to show.

Shes pretty much latched onto me and the life I’ve built for myself as her ‘social’ life. Shes come to my partners family events and tried to befriend my in-laws.
Shes come to an event hosted by one of my friends.
Shes decided she’s going to spend Christmas up here and with me and my family without asking me just assuming it would be okay. Me and DP have either hosted or been hosted with his family every year and decided this year was just gonna be ‘us’, but she’s railroaded herself into this.

Dont get me wrong she’s the definition of ‘introvert’ so has never been one for friends outside of family and isn’t at mine at everyday or anything but expects to be invited to all events and occasions.

I can’t lie, I feel resentful. This is MY life and my sanctuary that I built when I had nothing. My issues as an adult have all stemmed from her and her drinking growing up. I feel torn. I love her so much but I feel such mixed emotions.

Me and DP booked our first family holiday abroad next year. I told her when she popped over as I was excited and she said ‘oh I’ll come, I don’t have anyone to holiday with’ and I had to say I don’t think it’s a good idea as I don’t think DP would appreciate me just tagging on his mother in-law. My mum then said she’d babysit a couple of nights so we could go out and keep to herself a lot and not expect to go on any days out but would be nice to have someone to sit near the pool by during the day as she’s found her solo holidays lonely.
I again reiterated I don’t think DP would buy it and she didn’t get the hint and so I said I’d ask him but don’t be offended if he says no. She said she wouldn’t be. This was on Friday.

Of course my DP said no. I wouldn’t expect him to ever say yes.

Now I’m going over there this afternoon and I’ve been sick with anxiety all weekend. Feeling guilty and worried she’ll be upset and feel like shit about herself.

I also feel low level anger for her putting me in this situation. Why invite yourself?!
I also have low level anger about a lot of shit from the past and how she’s now overtaking my future.

I was thinking this is the time that whilst I tell her about a no to the holiday I also tell her how I’m feeling and about how we go about the future. But how?!

How on earth do I word so that she understands without badly hurting her? I don’t want her to relapse but I need her to understand fully how the past has really affected me as an adult that I’m still healing from. That I need some boundaries. I just don’t know how to even explain it as it’s all so emotive.

On top of this I just feel so guilty and like a bad daughter. I just don’t know what to do. But I feel sick.

OP posts:
LividPink · 26/05/2024 08:28

You have to say a firm NO. Don’t pussyfoot around this one and don’t tell her your hotel or flight times, or leave them lying around.

Try and distance yourselves. You need space!

ExtraOnions · 26/05/2024 08:32

You should have said “no” to the holiday, not pit it into DH, who now seems like the “bad guy”

Who’s telling her about all these social functions she’s tagging along to ? Maybe you are over
-sharing ?

EnterFunnyNameHere · 26/05/2024 08:34

I'm actually not sure this needs to be q big conversation. Totally agree you say a strong No to her coming on holiday, say that whilst you enjoy her company, you also need and enjoy being with your DH and kids as the smaller family unit and that is really precious to both you AND your DH. As in - it's not that you really want her there and DH says no, it's that you have your own family unit outside of her and you want some time with them.

Moving forward, just tell her less and get ahead of her invites. So it's not "we've booked a holiday I'm so excited", it's "we have wanted to get away just us for ages and it's now booked I'm so excited". If she tries to invite herself, then you can more easily say "but mum, I just said this is about reconnecting as a family, so not this time" or whatever.

Octonaut4Life · 26/05/2024 08:34

You are not being unreasonable to not want her on your holiday, at your events, or in your hometown. But you are being unreasonable making your DH the "bad guy" in this situation. You wouldn't want her there even if DH was not coming, and that's totally fine. I agree you need to tell her it's a no, and ideally you need to communicate that more generally you cant supply her entire social life and you expect there to be some events that she will not be invited to, not because you don't love her but because every family needs some space.

You don't even have to relate it to her alcoholism if you don't want to open that can of worms. It's perfectly normal not to want your mum on your holidays and at every social event.

Motnight · 26/05/2024 08:35

You need to protect yourself and your family from her, frankly.

I think that your boundaries are skewed - you are grateful when she isn't drinking. But she's still causing chaos in your life, just in a different way.

Pigeonqueen · 26/05/2024 08:39

My own history with my Mum was similar (alcoholic etc). You need to be VERY clear. No, you’re not invited on our holiday, it’s just going to be us that’s going. And repeat. You’ve made it harder for yourself by not being straight about it and putting it on dh. If anything like my Mum she will now see your dh as controlling and restricting her access to you and the dc because that’s the narrative that suits her. You need to correct this.

EVHead · 26/05/2024 08:39

You need to be assertive and tell her what is/isn't happening. No hoping she’ll “get the hint”. Be absolutely clear.

Also don’t share information about your social life/ plans you have. Don’t let her have enough information to invite herself along/turn up.

Pottedpalm · 26/05/2024 08:43

I don’t understand how she can invite herself to your DH’s family events. How does she know about them?

Speakingofdinosaurs · 26/05/2024 08:44

Say DP has said NO so that’s all there is to it.
I agree, absolutely do not tell her any details about where you are staying on holiday just in case she turns up there!

Just get that out of the way for this visit and delay the talking about all the other issues for now.
Then DP can say NO to Christmas later.
If you’re currently unable to say no to your Mother, allow your DP to have your back on this.

For all the past issues, I suggest you write them down, with specifics and details. You’re not necessarily going to give that to her, but are going to refer to it every time you have doubt about putting in boundaries with her. Because of her past behaviour, she is not entitled to be so involved in your future with your own little family.
Also YOU are not responsible for her relapsing, and if you live in fear of her doing that just because you say no to her or put in perfectly reasonable boundaries, then you (and your precious family) will have a horrible future.

Applesandpears23 · 26/05/2024 08:44

This stuff is hard and you sound like you’d benefit from some counselling focused on setting boundaries.

Nottherealslimshady · 26/05/2024 08:48

My mum does this. I just say no. No you can't come on our family holiday, no you can't stay at my house when my baby is born. No you can't come. Why? Because I don't want you to. Becuase you weren't invited. Becuase you can't just invite yourself to things. You've got to have firm boundaries and relentlessly and shamelessly enforce them

justforthisnow · 26/05/2024 08:49

Applesandpears23 · 26/05/2024 08:44

This stuff is hard and you sound like you’d benefit from some counselling focused on setting boundaries.

This 100%. OP, you have been parentified, and been placed in the role of rescuing a poorly adapted mother who has little coping skills and was alcohol dependent and likely will be again. Unfortunately, it is up to you to create abd enforce clear boundaries and manage her presence in your life, for your own sake and your familys. Therapy is very useful for this. Do not bring her on holidays.

Roundroundthegarden · 26/05/2024 08:56

Motnight · 26/05/2024 08:35

You need to protect yourself and your family from her, frankly.

I think that your boundaries are skewed - you are grateful when she isn't drinking. But she's still causing chaos in your life, just in a different way.

This op. What are you teaching your kids? She's an alcoholic all the time not just at times. Your dp has a lot of patience for. Tolerating her.

Candleabra · 26/05/2024 08:59

YOU need to say no, don’t use your DP as an excuse. Practice saying no in the mirror. Deep breathing to stay calm. You don’t need to give a justification to her, just keep saying no.

StopStartStop · 26/05/2024 08:59

As a mother/mil, I say 'be straight with her. Tell her the truth and let her come to terms with it.'

If she drinks to self-harm because she doesn't get her own way, it's on her, not you.

SpringerFall · 26/05/2024 09:01

You need to say no not blame you husband

Toxicinlawz · 26/05/2024 09:01

Op I'm sorry you've gone thru this but im glad your mum is doing much better and you've been an amazing daughter from everything you said. I do understand you're feeling resentment to her but I'm thinking if you are both in a better place try to cut her some slack with some things. If she wants to 'befriend' your inlaws let her. I'm sorry that's not over stepping. It's the inalws and perfectly normal to mix and and try to be friends. you can't have your mum there and and in a good place close to you and only allow her to do what is on your terms. She's your mum and trying to do good by being close to you and the kids. You can't put her in a box and only get her out when you want that's not OK to her long term. That said yes you do have the right to go on holiday without her and you don't have to have her over for every single event but consider being more relaxed about events where there are lots of other ppl there anyway and then something as important as a holiday you can absolutely tell her no. You could explain that you want your holiday just to be you and dp and the kids and maybe when you get back instead you can all have a day out somewhere where your mum can come too.

Whatthefuckwasthat · 26/05/2024 09:01

She knows because I tell her in general conversations.
example:

Her: what are plans this weekend?
Me: oh my friend Louise is in a show at the local theatre I’m going to see Saturday.
Her: oh I love the theatre! What time? I’ll get some tickets.

or

me: I need to leave soon before the shop shuts
her: buying anything nice?
me: It’s DPs sister birthday this weekend. So I said I’d make a salad and cake for the bbq so I better get going.
Her: oh on Saturday? I can do with some socialising actually. Tell her I’ll bring some kebabs.

This is how it happens! And it catches me off guard because I can tell her about 10 other things I’m doing and she won’t say anything or invite herself and then suddenly out of nowhere she’s invited herself along.

OP posts:
Hoppinggreen · 26/05/2024 09:02

You need to tell her she can't come, end of and if it means she starts drinking again it will still not be your fault

curtaintwitcher78 · 26/05/2024 09:07

Tell her nothing.
Mum: "What are you doing at the weekend?"
You:"Not sure. Playing it by ear."
Mum: "Let me know if you decide to do something I'll come along."
Then you just don't tell her, and go off and do your thing.
Or if you say you're staying in and she says she'll come round, just tell her no, you've had a busy week and you don't want company.

Roundroundthegarden · 26/05/2024 09:08

Why do you tell her in such detail about what you're doing ?
Also you need to put in the boundaries. You say she's lovely but she's not. She grew you up in an alcoholic childhood, created chaos and destruction around her, has fallen out with so many people, yet you keep defending her. She really isn't a nice person and has manipulated you into her parent. You feel responsible for her because she's manipulating you. That's wrong. Think of you doing what she did to your dc? Would that be ok with you, so why are you still allowing her to have such a presence in your lives.
I'm sure your dp is just barely tolerating her too and that does run out eventually. You need some counselling to work this out. You firmly tell her no, if she gets hurt then that is entirely on her. Do you really think on holiday she won't have a drink and get out of control? And do you really want to be leaving her with your kids at night ?

Delawear · 26/05/2024 09:09

Please get some counselling to help you with boundary setting, please own it - don’t put it on DH. Be firm and clear, if she spirals due to this, it is not your fault. Is there an Al Anon group near you as an extra source of support?

Roundroundthegarden · 26/05/2024 09:12

Toxicinlawz · 26/05/2024 09:01

Op I'm sorry you've gone thru this but im glad your mum is doing much better and you've been an amazing daughter from everything you said. I do understand you're feeling resentment to her but I'm thinking if you are both in a better place try to cut her some slack with some things. If she wants to 'befriend' your inlaws let her. I'm sorry that's not over stepping. It's the inalws and perfectly normal to mix and and try to be friends. you can't have your mum there and and in a good place close to you and only allow her to do what is on your terms. She's your mum and trying to do good by being close to you and the kids. You can't put her in a box and only get her out when you want that's not OK to her long term. That said yes you do have the right to go on holiday without her and you don't have to have her over for every single event but consider being more relaxed about events where there are lots of other ppl there anyway and then something as important as a holiday you can absolutely tell her no. You could explain that you want your holiday just to be you and dp and the kids and maybe when you get back instead you can all have a day out somewhere where your mum can come too.

Edited

Wow, this advice is just so unhelpful and explains why some people can't get out of toxic situations. The mum doesn't need 'cutting some slack' 😣. She is an alcoholic and gave her children a childhood bad enough for op to move far away.
And op doesn't need to owe her mum a holiday just because she says no now. Are you for real with advice like this?

1AngelicFruitCake · 26/05/2024 09:12

Don’t make your DP the bad guy.
Be honest and don’t keep telling her details.

Oblomov24 · 26/05/2024 09:12

You do know what to do. Just say no. Actually mum we can't.