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To consider pulling out of being MOH less than a fortnight before wedding?

523 replies

Rolomania · 25/05/2024 09:20

Been best friends with the soon to be bride for well over 10 years. She’s always had a gob on her, putting her foot in it and is very opinionated. She has a lot of great qualities about her, which is why she is my best friend despite having to tell her to keep her opinions to herself sometimes.

I am her maid of honour in 12 days time… she has 2 other bridesmaids.

She has in my opinion taken it too far this time, and spread her judgemental opinions onto our other friend who is currently grieving a very close relative. To her face, other friend absolutely devastated with the lack of compassion and walked out.

I told best friend her comments were nasty and she seems not to care, said she can’t be bothered with someone dimming her shine with grief whilst she’s trying to focus on the wedding.

I just feel like pulling out of being maid of honour and telling her I’ve put up with some opinions from her for the last 10 years, but she’s taken it too far.

But because wedding is in 12 days, everything paid for, my dress, make up hair etc I just feel awful.

What would you do. I feel stuck

OP posts:
LittleMonks11 · 27/05/2024 20:46

ZoeCM · 27/05/2024 19:59

Genuine question for the people saying the OP shouldn't have pulled out of the wedding or "taken sides" - where do you draw the line? If a bridesmaid had been raped a few weeks before the wedding, would you have expected the OP not to take sides if the bride had jokingly said "I'm gutted you were raped before my wedding, you're going to look traumatised in the wedding photos, couldn't you have asked your rapist to come back and rape you after the wedding instead?" Or if a bridesmaid's young children had been killed in a car crash shortly before the wedding, would you say the OP shouldn't take sides if the bride said "You're trying to outdo my wedding by going on about your dead kids, it's not fair that everyone's consoling you instead of chatting to me about seat coverings"?

And before anyone says "But those are completely different issues, they're not even in the same league as the death of a step-parent" - yes, that's true. Just like the death of a step-parent isn't in the same league as planning a wedding. The idea that if one friend is getting married and the other is bereaved, the bereaved one should be making allowances for the bride-to-be, is bonkers.

Your pseudo analogies are pretty distasteful.

ZoeCM · 27/05/2024 20:55

LittleMonks11 · 27/05/2024 20:46

Your pseudo analogies are pretty distasteful.

Complaining about the timing of your friend's stepfather's death is pretty distasteful in itself, though, isn't it?

LittleMonks11 · 27/05/2024 20:57

Yes. I agreed with that long ago.

GrannyRose15 · 27/05/2024 21:06

YoghurtPotWashingMachine · 27/05/2024 19:51

You're not going to hear the other side of the story so what do you want? For people to make it up? People can only respond to the information they have.

I would like people to be kinder to each other. But that is not going to happen on MN. As I said some of the things that have been posted are abhorent.

BirthdayRainbow · 27/05/2024 21:14

You've been patronising @GrannyRose15 How does that fit in with you wanting kindness?

Sleepiemum · 27/05/2024 21:59

The surprising thing about this is how many PPs say the bride is awful compared to how many people I know in real life who would make this sort of comment, usually in private but still I know lots of people who think like this. It’s everything that’s wrong with people today, self centred wanting a perfect event without life happening

DeadMabelle · 27/05/2024 23:47

Sleepiemum · 27/05/2024 21:59

The surprising thing about this is how many PPs say the bride is awful compared to how many people I know in real life who would make this sort of comment, usually in private but still I know lots of people who think like this. It’s everything that’s wrong with people today, self centred wanting a perfect event without life happening

I think this says more about the kind of person you have chosen to surround yourself with, and who clearly feel sure of a sympathetic ear for their vapidity…

easylikeasundaymorn · 27/05/2024 23:57

ZoeCM · 27/05/2024 19:43

I'm not being disingenuous, I genuinely wouldn't think "what if this impacts my wedding?" if a friend lost a family member! Why are you so determined to believe other people are that self-absorbed?

particularly if the bereaved friend wasn't even in the wedding party!

I could understand possibly thinking 'Oh gosh I hope they are going to be okay to come to the wedding,' if it was an actual bridesmaid who had suffered a recent bereavement (although I'd hope my focus would still be on THEM rather than how it would affect me), but not just one of many guests!

Realistically, a random friend, out of all the people there, potentially looking a bit sad, isn't really going to impact on a bride unless they deliberately focus on it. The bride will be spending her time actually getting married and then doing the rounds chatting to everyone - if it's like most weddings I've been to she might only get a few minutes all day with bereaved friend.

Of the, what, 50-100 guests at an average wedding, law of averages is going to mean at least one person is feeling hungover, several might have had a row with partner or kids, some might be ill themselves, going through a rough patch in their marriage, have family members who are very unwell....you can't insist that just because it's your weddings all your guests will magically leave their everyday lives behind, but equally so it's very unlikely most guests will relay any personal issues they are having to the bride and groom in great detail!

I'm sure bereaved friend would have put a brave face on. There's literally no reason for bride to assume she would sit around crying throughout the wedding and taking the attention away from her - unless because SHE is so egocentric this is exactly what SHE would do if she had suffered a bereavement?

Nanaof1 · 28/05/2024 00:39

GrannyRose15 · 27/05/2024 13:16

I wish the bride would start a thread “My MOH has pulled out at the last minute” What a revelation the comments on there would be.

Hopefully, people would ask WHY she pulled out at the last minute. Then, if the btb was honest and said it was because she was angry someone's loved one died 2 weeks before "her special day" and she made comments about that, she would see the true reactions.

Nanaof1 · 28/05/2024 00:44

BustyLee · 27/05/2024 13:02

If you experienced a bereavement would you go to the bride to be's dinner event and expect that to be a main topic of conversation? I really wouldn't. I just couldn't.

Don't get me wrong: I don't think the friend was right to say the things she said I really don't, but I don't think this is as straightforward as everyone is saying. It makes us all feel good to castigate the friend because it makes us feel like we're really good people and she alone is awful, but it would have to cross someone's mind, even for a second, that it could affect their wedding. Have you never had a moment of panic, despite your own best values? Most of us wouldn't say though - for good reason.

And many people here are holding up their own experiences of bereavement in comparison, but I would argue that it is very different if the person who died was close to you in some way.So actually, if it was a dear friend or loved one I probably wouldn't even be able to focus on a wedding.

You actually don't have an insight into my personality from a quick post on the internet, but it is very easy to be mean and to jump on the self righteous bandwagon in the safety of others in a pile-on, isn't it?

Where did you get the idea that it was the BTB's dinner event. Surely, the world realizes that the bride's "day" doesn't extend to week's before and after the one-day event? It sounds like it was just friends meeting up for dinner and one friend is bereaved.
My word, thinking that two weeks before a one-day event, everything should already focus ONLY on the bride. How inconvenient that the world spins on without centering on the BTB!
facepalm

Mothership4two · 28/05/2024 09:35

ZoeCM · 27/05/2024 19:43

I'm not being disingenuous, I genuinely wouldn't think "what if this impacts my wedding?" if a friend lost a family member! Why are you so determined to believe other people are that self-absorbed?

Me neither - wouldn't have occurred to me.

Fortunately we didn't have anything as devastating as a bereavement before our wedding, but one of the guests was dumped by her long-term partner just weeks before. I didn't worry about the impact on 'my wedding' but just asked friends to look out for her as it might be a bit of a bittersweet day for her - my concern was with her. She seemed very upbeat and left with the best man!

T1Dmama · 28/05/2024 11:19

BustyLee · 27/05/2024 13:02

If you experienced a bereavement would you go to the bride to be's dinner event and expect that to be a main topic of conversation? I really wouldn't. I just couldn't.

Don't get me wrong: I don't think the friend was right to say the things she said I really don't, but I don't think this is as straightforward as everyone is saying. It makes us all feel good to castigate the friend because it makes us feel like we're really good people and she alone is awful, but it would have to cross someone's mind, even for a second, that it could affect their wedding. Have you never had a moment of panic, despite your own best values? Most of us wouldn't say though - for good reason.

And many people here are holding up their own experiences of bereavement in comparison, but I would argue that it is very different if the person who died was close to you in some way.So actually, if it was a dear friend or loved one I probably wouldn't even be able to focus on a wedding.

You actually don't have an insight into my personality from a quick post on the internet, but it is very easy to be mean and to jump on the self righteous bandwagon in the safety of others in a pile-on, isn't it?

I don’t think it was a meal ‘for the bride’ though was it?? It sounds more like a general meet up??
but even if it was and the bride acted on impulse she’s had ample opportunity to apologise??? We all say silly things but surely she’s had plenty of time to think OMG that was awful of me and apologise to her two friends…. Instead she’s sending nasty messages …

T1Dmama · 28/05/2024 11:27

BustyLee · 27/05/2024 13:59

Op's question was what would you do?

Of course I don't know what I would do because reality is always different to speculation on a forum, but I hope I would not act on the advice of strangers on the internet and pull out of moh role when dress, makeup etc had been paid for, adding to the emotional turmoil and disruption. I don't think I could do that to a friend of 10 years for whom I had enough fondness to agree to be moh. I would comfort the bereaved friend and If I had to I would end the friendship with the bride after the wedding.

I don't tend to have friends who I think are bullies and certainly would not agree to be their moh. I know people are saying that op's actions are indicative of a last straw, but I find it difficult to understand how it takes 10 years to get the measure of a friend. I admit that is outside my own experience.

So instead you’d attend and fall out after the day?
sorry but that’s horrible…. At least the bride won’t have to look back at photos of her old best friend in all her wedding photos! Knowing that she was being fake all day!
I wouldn’t want my MOH there at my wedding, if she was going to fall out with after … I’d rather have the opportunity to ask someone else.

Goodtogossip · 28/05/2024 12:58

I'd arrange to meet her & discuss everything before you make your mind up if you want to be MOH or not. Tell her you found her comments to your friend hurtful & insensitive & that you feel she owes her an apology. Let her know that you've really had enough of her inconsiderate ways & that because you've not been speaking ask her does she actually still want you to be MOH as the way things stand you're not too bothered either way. If you do decide to be her MOH after the wedding I'd let things slide a bit & let her make the effort to get in touch with you.

Mothership4two · 28/05/2024 13:09

Bit late for that @Goodtogossip as OP has pulled out altogether

SoreAndTired1 · 28/05/2024 14:33

Goodtogossip · 28/05/2024 12:58

I'd arrange to meet her & discuss everything before you make your mind up if you want to be MOH or not. Tell her you found her comments to your friend hurtful & insensitive & that you feel she owes her an apology. Let her know that you've really had enough of her inconsiderate ways & that because you've not been speaking ask her does she actually still want you to be MOH as the way things stand you're not too bothered either way. If you do decide to be her MOH after the wedding I'd let things slide a bit & let her make the effort to get in touch with you.

@Goodtogossip please Read The Full Thread before commenting, or at least read only the OP's replies (click on See all at the bottom of their first post to go to their 12 posts on this thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5082214-to-consider-pulling-out-of-being-moh-less-than-a-fortnight-before-wedding?postsby=Rolomania )
OP pulled out of it days ago.

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Nanny0gg · 28/05/2024 15:22

GrannyRose15 · 27/05/2024 21:06

I would like people to be kinder to each other. But that is not going to happen on MN. As I said some of the things that have been posted are abhorent.

Yep. The bride certainly should have been kinder to her friend

donutqueen · 30/05/2024 07:50

theholesinmyapologies · 26/05/2024 22:11

Unbelievable how awful some people are. I'm so sorry your so-called 'friend' behaved so badly. Did she ever apologise?

She did eventually, but it had crossed the line for me. I also saw how she treated other people during the planning of her wedding and I came to the conclusion that it wasn’t worth having a friend who was happy to behave in such a way.

MsCheeryble · 30/05/2024 08:05

BustyLee · 27/05/2024 13:02

If you experienced a bereavement would you go to the bride to be's dinner event and expect that to be a main topic of conversation? I really wouldn't. I just couldn't.

Don't get me wrong: I don't think the friend was right to say the things she said I really don't, but I don't think this is as straightforward as everyone is saying. It makes us all feel good to castigate the friend because it makes us feel like we're really good people and she alone is awful, but it would have to cross someone's mind, even for a second, that it could affect their wedding. Have you never had a moment of panic, despite your own best values? Most of us wouldn't say though - for good reason.

And many people here are holding up their own experiences of bereavement in comparison, but I would argue that it is very different if the person who died was close to you in some way.So actually, if it was a dear friend or loved one I probably wouldn't even be able to focus on a wedding.

You actually don't have an insight into my personality from a quick post on the internet, but it is very easy to be mean and to jump on the self righteous bandwagon in the safety of others in a pile-on, isn't it?

It wasn't the bride's dinner event, and there is nothing suggesting the friend expected her bereavement to be the main topic of conversation. So your central premise is entirely false.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 30/05/2024 09:52

Trapunt0 · 27/05/2024 09:42

Fuck that shit.
Just walk.
My husband died on Saturday morning, if someone suggested to my kids or their friends how inconvenient that might be they'd have scores of people turn on them right now.
Spend the day with your bereaved friend.

Very sorry for your loss💐

Rosscameasdoody · 30/05/2024 10:07

BustyLee · 26/05/2024 22:08

I think op said the wedding was 12 days away. 11 now?

Yes, she did. But in your post you thought the meal they went to was an eve of wedding thing when in fact it was just lunch with OP, the bride and the friend, nearly two weeks before the wedding, so your advice was coming from the wrong point of view.

The OP was in the middle of the bride and her bereaved friend and heard at first hand what an awful thing the bride said, and later doubling down on it, saying the friend was using the bereavement for attention. She clearly thinks she’s being upstaged, she has form for being unpleasant, I don’t think this is just Bridezilla behaviour, and I think when someone shows you who they really are you need to believe them.

This was clearly the straw that broke the camels’ back. Everyone has their breaking point and I think this would be mine too - it’s indefensible.

Vodkamummy · 01/06/2024 17:54

I'd tell her I'm annoyed that she has no compassion. Who paid for the hair etc? Ask her straight out if she is still expecting you to attend the wedding, as if you are not talking to each other it could prove to be awkward.

Vodkamummy · 01/06/2024 17:55

Ooops just realised wedding date has already been and gone

Natalie43 · 01/06/2024 18:17

No. That’s not “having a gob on her.” That’s just being a bitch.

I’m very much someone who says things as they are so I’d have no problem telling her that either. I cannot stand when people think being straight talking is synonymous with and and excuse for being cruel. What she said was inexcusable and it sounds like people, including yourself have let her get away with such behaviour for too long.

Sod the wedding and sod her. Like a child she needs to grow up and realise actions have consequences. If people say anything then tell them what she said.

Go support your grieving friend and let her know she has someone she can lean on x

TillyMSF · 01/06/2024 18:44

Is Bridezilla vengeful? Does she slander others? I'd think about that before you take any action.

I was direct with a so-called friend and she badmouthed me to everyone. She twisted her nasty behavior into being my fault. It is painful to go through this.

I'm not you. This is my unsolicited advice: I'd go through with the wedding and dump her right after it. She'll be busy being the wife from hell so she may not notice your absence for a few months.

Look at the cost for the wedding things as a lesson to not get involved with an immature brat in the future. The older these less than stellar people get, the worse they get.