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AIBU to feel this will happen un a Labour government???

From what I see and IMO, the Labour lot on the whole believe in aspirations but only for themselves

Older people will vividly recall the the hideous tax rates under labour - between 1974 and 1979 the paye tax rate was up to 80%. Then there was a tax on top of that for so-called higher earners of 18%. This equated to 98%

I don't trust Labour, nor do I trust the Torties. Liberals, IMO they will sell your soul down the river to get a sniff at number 10

As I said I don't trust any of them. But if you are working, worked hard, been prudent with your money and have savings, decent private pensions in the pipeline and possibly a property or two that you have worked for, for your retirement and not wasting your money and want to leave some behind for your kids, GC etc rather than throw it away on the hand to mouth life - then if Labour comes into power, you are totally and truly F'd

Labour rants they will do this and the other - the last time they almost bankrupted England,

If you are working hard being prudent with your money and made sacrifices to send your kids to a private school as many Labour MP's do on pay at almost 100k - they are eager to put VAT on this part of education. The MPS whose pay is a couple of times above average pay will be able to afford it - will you??

Me, my family, relatives have all worked hard, not on benefits, never lived in social housing and not thrown our money away but been prudent to be self-sufficient and pay our taxes to support our country. If you are like us, then trust me, under Labour, you will be shafted hard.

I'm not sure if I will vote tory or an independent but this circus of Tories and Labour taking turns to lie to the nation is not on and yes, most politicians lie and will lie and say anything to get into number 10 and if your feel that is not true, then you must be on another planet

OP I can only assume you are my mother .. she has a spectacular view from her ivory tower while looking down on vulnerable people and ranting that they should all have their benefits stopped .
She’s very well read though .. reads The DM cover to cover each day ….. I’m pretty happy to give Labour another shot rather than be hung drawn and quartered by the current government

Wtaf?

I vote according to what I think will be best for the country as a whole. And when I see the appalling state of our public services, increasing deprivation and homelessness, I know it can't possibly be the Tories.

I will never vote Labour

The islamophobic party

It's like Stockholm syndrome

Exactly

Wasn't the last real working class background Prime Minister, a Tory? John Major grew up in a council house. Definitely the top boarding school educated Labour Prime Minister who came after him, Blair, was the "posher" one.

I don't care personally what background or accent the Prime Minister has though. More concerned about policies and although things are shit for lots of people, so far I don't see what Labour will do to make anything better, but will be looking at what they say from now until the election with interest.

Exactly. I'm sound, thanks. Decent income, recession-proof job, nearly paid-off mortgage... but what about everyone else?

And you vote that because what is best for the country is best for you.

Something very strange is going on , I think you are right!

@CoralReader not everyone votes out of pure self interest. You're projecting the Tory mindset onto everyone else.

The dentist just cancelled my child's appointment for the second time, due to the timeslot he had no longer being for NHS appointments. Meanwhile his primary school gives out food about to go off, donated by the local supermarket. I will be voting labour. It's like living in les miserables at the moment.

Can always tell a lot about a person when they vote solely based on self interest.*

Yep tells me that's a tory voter.

Tax party.. . I'd love to see energy companies being taxed after their 2000% profit increases while the elderly were freezing to death. I'd love to see water companies being held responsible for paying off more dividends than their profits and then attempting to increase prices by up to 98% next year. Some change to come to the worst and most expensive Train services in Europe. Nurses and teachers being able to afford where they work. Social service staff not having 30 cases each so tortured children can be caught before their death. millions going to serve to people instead off being siphoned off to tory buddies with scams like covid tracking.

As far as I can tell there are a lot of people who seem to underestimate the Tories ability to still make things even worse, especially if given another 5 years in charge.

I think people are perhaps underestimating the impact of the population increase in the last 20 years and the structural macroeconomic issues faced by many G7 countries.

It's not all about one political party versus the other, there's more fundamental issues of an ageing demographic and mammoth public debt.

Put bluntly, these are not easily fixable issues. And the NHS won't survive in its current form. There's a good reason why France and Germany have a part-pay system.

I want to hide under a rock for the next month or so whilst all the smug self-righteous twats on media platforms harp on about voting labour. And many of those people are the most self-serving, materialistic people I know who like to think they're a little posh.

Ps No, I won't be voting Tory either!

I know. Like certain individuals took home 2% of their pay.

I'll vote Labour because I have better faith than I do in the Tories that taxes will be reinvested into the public sector rather than to line one's own golden pockets.
Agree. To say oh we'll be highly taxed under Labour is risible when tax is at the highest levels for some years under the Tories. The problem is that the none of that money has gone into any public services. The whole country is an absolute shit show. In Europe, taxes are high but people can see where the money has gone. Where has all our money gone? Not into schools or hospitals or any kind of infrastructure. We have shit in our water because shareholders have been paid out before water companies have done their jobs. Police told not to arrest people because there are no prison places, enormous backlogs in the courts and immigration services, some chances who has made it onto the Suday Times Rich list on the back if government contract to provide accommodation for asylum seekers in something thst sounds like a shanty town, millions spaffed on crappy unusable PPE and being fleeced by their mates. No dentists, no teachers, strikes all over the place, 4Prime Ministers in one Parliament etc etc...

Voting is supposed to be based on sole interest

Wrong. Only for some people.

I'm insanely privileged, compared with millions of people. I cannot see any way that I would benefit from a Labour government, particularly.

I'm voting Labour because I give a shit about people with less than me, who need a functioning NHS, early years help, an infrastructure that supports people with next to nothing, and a government that doesn't hold poor people and women in contempt and misery.

Let's face it, if you vote Tory, then it's VERY unlikely that any of these issues will resonate, and I expect that the majority of people who 'vote for themselves,' will be voting for more years of the mad, corrupt, incompetent, vicious bastards.

Ah, yes. The Labour save the NHS shite. It's broken and no amount of water will top up a bucket with whopping great holes in it. Labour supporters trot out the US healthcare system without any critical thinking that there are a multitude of other models in between.

As you say, France have it spot on. Healthcare there is excellent and accessible to all.

Have you seen how Labour have done in Wales?

Have you forgotten Liz Truss? She fucked the economy worse than anyone else ever managed.

And truthfully, how well do you really think that the most recent Tory governments have done at ruining running the country? Austerity, Brexit, ruination of the NHS, food banks becoming the norm - all good for you, is it?

In less days than it look my bananas to go brown in my fruit bowl

What utter nonsense. You don’t get to tell me how to vote or that I should vote for the party that makes me richer. I don’t want to live in a country that is torn apart by inequality. If you do then that’s your prerogative but for all our sakes I hope you’re in a small minority on the 4th July.

Say goodbye to women’s rights, safety and dignities. Oh and women’s sport.

Women will no longer free to be anywhere without the guaranteed presence of ’special women’ i.e. the ones with penises. Because they matter more.