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Widows vs Single mums and divorcees

234 replies

IfIGoTiAnotherWedding · 16/05/2024 19:32

I am a divorced mother of 3. My ex husband was financially abusive and emotionally absent: when we split my sons were 4, 2.5 and 4 months respectively. He moved back to his home country U.S,A and has never seen the children since or sent a penny. Obviously it was hard. And still is.

I know a few widows. Some were friends of mine before they lost their husbands, some are new friends as we move in the same circles and have things in common, mainly solo parenting obviously. Like them, I have my children 24-7-365. In fact some of them have better family support (from two sides of their family), all happen to be in a better financial situation (whereas my ex left me with significant debts), but obviously they have gone through trauma and the death of their loved one, where I have not. I give them full credit for keeping going. It’s very lonely.

They never planned to be alone.
They never chose it.
I have utmost sympathy for both my widowed acquaintances, and for their children.

My AIBU is is it ok that there is SUCH a difference in how society approaches us. I have never received any offers of help or money. Obviously. My own parents are talking about offering a young widow who lives locally a few hours childcare once a week so that she can go to the cinema and have a break.

This was not something offered to me. I am listening to this thinking eh? They hardly know this person. I also am not sure if this widow would want such charity. She certainly wouldn’t if she knew that the sympathy is very much dependent on the term widowhood and not single mum.

Friend in question has already a rota of helpers.

Fundraisers, paid holidays - I don’t want them, I don’t begrudge my friends this.

I am just struck by the contrast between the “worthy” solo mums (widows) and the rest of us (unworthy) - Ditto for the children. This is not internalised stigma, the net difference is impossible to ignore.

My widowed friends are lovely people, they are devastated about losing their husbands and have no idea that there is this disparity in treatment.

The disparity feels like a throwback to more religious times and is akin to worthy poor versus unworthy poor. Anyway it sucks to be in the second category.

OP posts:
GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/05/2024 16:51

I haven’t personally come across this. I am a divorced single mum - my exh is in the picture but sometimes actively makes things harder!

I didn’t choose for him to be emotionally abusive and unreliable and for me to have to divorce him.

I don’t begrudge widows or lone parents who aren’t widowed anything. I haven’t personally seen this.

OP, sounds like your parents are acting very unfairly, but whether it’s indicative of a pattern or not idk.

Bellsandthistle · 17/05/2024 17:07

OceanStorm · 17/05/2024 14:28

@Bellsandthistle cancer, accidents and many other health conditions can occur randomly.

Kind, loving devoted husbands do not attack or leave their wives randomly

Are you STILL missing the point?

LieutOliviaBenson · 17/05/2024 17:14

OceanStorm · 17/05/2024 04:28

@LieutOliviaBenson no the definitely shouldn't stay. But it would have helped to be more discerning before choosing to have children and marry someone

Maybe women should also choose partners that won't die too? That's how ridiculous your statement is.

qwertyasdfgzxcv · 17/05/2024 17:19

A widow is a single parent. Their children are with them the whole time. A divorced mother may not have her children all the time and may receive financial support.

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 17/05/2024 18:03

qwertyasdfgzxcv · 17/05/2024 17:19

A widow is a single parent. Their children are with them the whole time. A divorced mother may not have her children all the time and may receive financial support.

Technically widows are solo parents.

OceanStorm · 17/05/2024 18:07

@LieutOliviaBenson I wouldn't advise someone to marry someone with a terminal illness no

LieutOliviaBenson · 17/05/2024 18:11

OceanStorm · 17/05/2024 18:07

@LieutOliviaBenson I wouldn't advise someone to marry someone with a terminal illness no

Oh FFS. 🙄

0w1 · 17/05/2024 18:48

Minniemooose · 17/05/2024 16:45

That can be true, that’s the abuse only starts when the woman is pregnant. What I can’t understand though is why anyone would go on to have 2 more kids with a man that turned abusive when you’re pregnant the first time. It never ends well for the kids or the woman…..

Edited

It"s simple. Denial. You tell yourself, nobody else's life is fantastic behind closed doors, you feel, well ill work harder at getting through to him, I'll compromise (more) also, even if my Denial crumbles and I accept that I deserve better,can I get better? Can I afford to run a household on my own? Can I fund childcare even for one child and have enough left to live on? Could I leave? Where would I go? Have I any money when I get there? This all sounds so hard. Maybe I'll just sink back into Denial. Try and endure him.

AnonAnonmystery · 17/05/2024 22:12

@SpaghettiWithaYeti my ex left me on the floor when I fainted and started shouting at me to get up as the kids were getting scared!
Your experience sounds worse than mine and yes it’s great to be away from that scary shit! Xxxx

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