To ask what on earth do people who post about Palestine expect to happen?

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It seems that every time I log into social media there are so people constantly posting about how we need to free Palestine and condemning everyone who ignores their posts.

May I ask what do they expect posting about it will actually accomplish? Did I miss something and wars can be stopped with SM posts? If so, why are they not posting the same about Ukraine? There is still a war going on there...

One is a terrorist organisation the other is not

Netanyahu is a terrorist, so are his far right goons.

No, you see it a lot - the posts asking why people aren’t talking about conflicts in other parts of the world as much as the Israeli-Gaza war for example.

There’s this idea people are making a big fuss about Gaza while ignoring people suffering in other conflicts and the reason for this must be anti-Israel prejudice.
To be fair some people may genuinely believe this to be the case but a lot of the time it seems to be a way of shutting the discussion down.

Its true that there are other conflicts in the world that aren’t in the spot light or even mentioned but I think that probably has more to do with what is /isn’t reported in in mainstream media.

I see so much on MN “Waaaah I get called antisemitic because I support Palestine” hey I NEVER see any comments of this sort. I see people calling out antisemitic comments pro-Palestinian supporters make like
”There is no religion that gets a free pass to commit these atrocities for fear of being called biased against the religion”

This IS anti-Semitic because it’s conflating Israel with Judaism and blaming the religion not the government. It’s important to call it out this is EXACTLY the kind of misinformation that led to such vehement hate for Jewish people in the 1930’s Europe that when Jews were forced out their homes and marched ghettos, regularly citizens applauded and cheered rather than doing anything to help them.

I’m not sure pointing the finger at people who support Palestinians and calling them bigoted and performative is the best way to combat that though.

Well it is when those people make antisemitic comments. Pro-Palestinian supporters do harm when they even mention Jewish people when who they mean is the Israeli government. If you look for it you’ll see it everywhere.

Yep or referring to the Israeli government as ‘a religion’

Where?!

Yeah that isn’t saying that support Palestine is antisemitic. At all.

With respect, that’s your opinion and it’s not enshrined in any law.

I think it’s ONE of the reasons it’s so popular to support Palestine. You really don’t realise how much people love to blame and hate Jewish people.

The other reason IMO that is a popular one (and the majority reason) is because people are busy and it’s a campaign that is already mobilised and well known and so it’s very easy to support with minimum effort and time as opposed to being the first one to raise awareness, they can care about a group of people in an already well established campaign.

Israel has ignored international law for decades.

And get the IDF are still not terrorists

I don't see any harm in people posting to raise awareness. I suppose it can be easy to forget how people are suffering if you don't keep up with the news or hear about it often.
I've seen many posts encouraging charitable donations to help those in Gaza, I've donated when I can myself.
The Israeli government must be held to account for what they have done, and public awareness and hopefully resulting pressure on governments to condemn them will make a real difference, as us civilians can't really drag Netanyahu and his government in front of the ICC ourselves.

With respect, that's your opinion. They are terrorists.

Terrorists are enshrined in law not based on opinion

Thinking of the families of the three hostages whose bodies were found by the IDF in Gaza tonight including Shani Louk who is perhaps best known for being the hostage tied semi naked to a back of a truck as her captors rejoiced.

The three hostages were innocent Israelis who just wanted to go to a festival.

Horrific.

And then they turfed the Palestinians out of their homes and created a new land.

BINGO!!

Actually most of the ones marching into the ghettos died excruciating deaths but GOLD STAR for you blaming persecuted Jews for things that happened after their death.

I mean fucking hell this is exactly my point - Jewish people don’t even have to be alive for them to be blamed for what’s happening elsewhere.

Also, pick a history book and stop embarrassing yourself with bullshit comments like that.

I’m sure you’d much rather the Jews stayed in countries that were still Murdering them right, as opposed to return to their ancient homeland (where tens of thousands had already emigrated to pre-WW2) which was agreed by the UN and the British.

The Palestinian territories HAVE become smaller and smaller over the years. Netanyahu has been open about his plans for taking even more land off Palestinians, as have many Israeli politicians.
The blame for the absolute devastation and ill treatment of Gaza/Gazans lies not with any religion, but the Israeli government and those cheering them on.

Thank you for mentioning this. I think a lot about the surviving hostages and their families and what they are going through. I pray that they will be freed soon. If they were freed then I expect the bombing of Gaza would end. None of the current situation in Gaza would have happened if Hamas hadn't committed their atrocities.

So NO Palestinians were forcibly removed from their homes in 1947?

I’m not blaming dead persecuted Jews for the forcible removal of Palestinians from their home. I am saying that the alive ones forcibly removed them.

I think most people would blame the British for their partitioning of what was then Palestine. They may of been acting in good faith but either way all that did was trigger a war and the fighting has been pretty much constant ever since.

And it’s not bullshit that Palestinians were displaced/forced off their land. There was ethnic cleansing of Palestinians during the 1948 war (the Nakba).

THAT’S what you picked up from my post?!

Why are you blaming murdered Jews for things they didn’t do? Because this is what you did - that’s where you went when I mentioned Jews being marched into the ghetto.

Why?

I’m aware of the ‘Nakba’, thank you, but it still may be worth you looking up how the agreement to create Israel came about, what Palestine rejected beforehand, how land was legally obtained by Jewish people and how the antisemitic Arabs reacted with the thought of being in proximity with Jewish people.