To ask what on earth do people who post about Palestine expect to happen?

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It seems that every time I log into social media there are so people constantly posting about how we need to free Palestine and condemning everyone who ignores their posts.

May I ask what do they expect posting about it will actually accomplish? Did I miss something and wars can be stopped with SM posts? If so, why are they not posting the same about Ukraine? There is still a war going on there...

I'm embarrassed for you.

If I recall correctly, the Quran also talks about Palestine as the Holy Land that will be inherited by the righteous. If we're using religious texts to sort out who belongs on this land, doesn't that mean both sides have a claim?

In a humane world, no one would condone the kidnapping, rape, murder or bombing of civilians on either side by governments who justify those actions as necessary.

agreed.

I'm a religous Conservative Muslim and a lot of my social circle consists of very religous people of various backgrounds and faiths. I'm yet to meet someone of any religion who think that religous texts are a sane basis for determining who gets to live where.

and God stating a certain land will be inherited by a certain group of people doesn't mean He is telling them to go take it but rather its a prophecy of something that will happen. in the same way the outcomes of wars between the Persians v Romans was foretold in the Qur'an.

anyone who thinks theological texts should be the basis of laying claim to any kind of property or land needs to get their head checked.

@Northernnature my family line goes back to Yemen and its verifiable as very clear records were kept due to the nature of my ancestry. they also tended to marry first cousins a lot to "keep the bloodline pure". my ancestors have been living in Bangladesh for the last 400 years.

does that mean I get to go back to Yemen and claim my ancestral land?

while we are at it, anyone who is not aboriginal or first nation should leave north America and Australia. then we can get round to newzealand, south America etc etc

and what about the all those who are Palestinians that are actually descended from Jewish ancestors who converted to Islam or Christianity, don't they deserve to live there? because the same core group of people have been living there for millenia apart from usual migration. After Romans expelled many Jewish people, the kurdish general salahuddin welcomed them back and ordered the rebuilding of synagogues. and that region has had a large Jewish population since. the issues only began when mass immigration started following the holocaust and the subsequent expulsion of other religous communities. the then rabbi of Jerusalem opposed the formation of Israel incidentally, something that is never mentioned.

The pro Palestinian lobby are certainly very vocal online but I think you'll find there is quietly a lot of support for Israel. It's a bit like when there's a general election. No one ever seems to admit they vote conservative yet they keep winning elections.

@therealcookiemonster my post was to someone who said Jewish people were all Europeans originally which is not true, I was not saying only people who have been there a long time can live on land.

lol OK thats a fair point. sorry I didn't realise. thank you for clarifying ♡

Indeed. Not sure what OP thinks their own post is “achieving” 😂. But also raising awareness of atrocious things in the world is a good thing.

Exactly.

Op. With the greatest respect don't make the mistake of trying to compare the situations, it's not a competition as to who gets the most sm posts. All civilians in danger due to war are just as valid as each other where ever they are in the world. What's your issue here ? You don't want there to be awareness of the situation in gaze? Mass graves, children being killed in the 1000s , children being orphaned... the population are being starved shall i carry on. These ppl are not animals they are humans like you and I so don't begrudge the awareness being raised. If you're concerned about Ukraine make your own posts to spread awareness, both wars can and do need to be spoken of.

I've always said and I still believe that if what was happening to Gaza was being done by another Muslim country, no one would care, or very few would care.

Whether it's conscious or sub conscious I think a huge amount of the pro Palestinian movement is motivated by anti semitism. Goodies and baddies to them. It's like a football match..pick a side.

When I was a child and people talked about Palestine it seemed so far away and it would perhaps get 30 seconds of air time if that, v now we are seeing raw footage of people getting the drone knock, fleeing their homes and the aftermath.

The fact that OP felt the need for this thread creates awareness. Even if you think it’s a waste of time the very fact you’ve asked the question has got you and others talking about it.

And the Palestinians (admittedly older now) born pre Israel are they just forgotten? Was it not their land?

I often look at this conflict and think of Cyprus. Cyprus was invaded by Turkey and Cyprus was divided in two. Many Cypriots were forced from their homes in the north. But Cyprus is at peace. The world isn't so angry about it.

Ah but the ‘father’ of the Palestinians was born in Cairo. His father fought for 25 years in court to try to gain family land in Egypt as his inheritance.

Just saying.

Yep. Obviously watching people suffer is horrible...no one denies that. Unfortunately the world is full of conflict. Many people across the world are displaced. New borders are drawn up all around the world. So much focus on this one leads me to one conclusion.

I agree, it is absolutely nonsensical. I got very tired of all the whinging about the Met Gala, as well. These people are celebrities, not politicians. They have nothing to do with what's happening in Gaza or anywhere else. Also, as you say, why stop at Gaza? Why do anything apart from raise awareness of various injustices? Virtue signalling at its dumbest.

Turkish settlers in Northern Cyprus were given homes and land belonging to Greek Cypriots who were forced out. These issues are not unique to Palestinians.

And in answer to the OP’s very legitimate question, it’s to whip up hatred against the ‘Zionist’s’ (otherwise known as Israelis who legally accepted a homeland from the governing authority after the defeat of the Ottoman NOT Palestinian empire) and the Jewish people in general.

You are essentially saying that the Israeli government can kill as many children/civilians as they want and if anyone says stop its anti semitic? A reasonable person accepts that the level of civilian deaths in gaza is not acceptable.

No essentially I was not saying that at all.