“Women and birthing people. “

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Who said that?
A doula on the PM Programme on BBC R4 tonight between 5.40 and 5.45.

Bit annoying but if she said women and said it first then I’m okay with it

You can blame the next leader of the Tory party for that. The Tories wrote genderwoo into their Maternity Bill and sent Penny TWAW Mordaunt out to the Despatch Box to defend it.

https://debbiehayton.com/2021/03/17/why-does-penny-mordaunt-think-trans-men-are-men/

This bothers me zero percent, I'm happy to see the inclusion here. Try focussing on something else.

I see myself as a woman that was pregnant and a woman that gave birth. The term birthing people has been a more recently used term but I wonder if we are just trying too hard. I’ve also heard the term chest feeding instead of breastfeeding used 🤷‍♀️

I’m waiting for ‘birthing person’ to be declared wrong speak for those that identify as cat gender.

Will nobody think of the kittens.

This.
When phrases like birthing people, uterus havers, pregnant people and all the other anti women language that the useful idiots have dreamt up actually resolve the current scandalous experiences that women experience in maternity care in too many hospitals, then I'll tolerate this woman excluding language.
Until then they have one job - to provide safe, adequate maternity services for women and babies.
Not a single second should be spent on this nonsense by any medic or anyone in the NHS until maternity care is safe for women and babies.

Do people just see the word inclusion and take leave of their critical faculties?

To quote a man who would have had zero time for all this rubbish 'don't be so open minded your brains fall out'

I've never understood why anyone would object to being called a person. We are people. A significant problem for women has always been being treated as not people. This does not negatively affect you in any way.

I thought most of the hatred on here was for penises in women's spaces? I'm not too fussed what they call a line of persons with uteruses, lying on a maternity ward, some of whom may identify as non-binary or as a man.

Such stand out pc madness, shame on you BBC.
Women need to point out this biological ridiculousness
Every. Single. Time

Well David Lammy thinks that man can grown cervixes if they identify as women and India Willoughy claims to have one...who knows...?!😂

Wtaf. Who are the birthing people? Women

Yes we are grateful that we have been referred to us as women. In the context of maternity. Grim.

Spot on.

Yes some transmen consider themselves male and then go and do the most female thing a woman can do and THEN demand that the language be changed to accommodate them. No eye rolls are enough.

'A line of persons with uteruses'

One step away from calling women incubators. Not all women give birth. Every single human being who has ever given birth was a woman (or a girl).

Who the heck are ‘birthing people’ 😢

Excellent post.

This was in a discussion about the horror that is maternity care in this country.

It’s insulting.

Edited to add: but PM so no surprise.

Just read your post back and try and realise how utterly ludicrous is sounds.

Let alone how bloody offensive it is...

Yep you’re right. Sorry, got my personages mixed up there!

👆this!

@SecondHandFurniture

Dear God, “a line of persons with Uteruses”
your post is giving Handmaiden’s Tale vibes.

We’re women!

Only women can give birth. The end.

I’d really like to know how many actual women pretending to be men actually are demanding this. Are they demanding it before the birth? Are they demanding it after the doctors have possibly worked to save their and maybe their babies life?
who is actually demanding this? Is it Stonewall again, creating division where there wasn’t any? Or is there actually a massive percentage of women who will be so upset while pushing out a new life and having emergency treatment, that they’ll stop everything and complain? I can’t help thinking that when I was giving birth and afterwards, I was thinking about a lot if things, - mainly getting through it, and wonder. Strangely the midwife could have called me anything and I wouldn’t have cared. Little bit pre occupied.
i also don’t want my doctor to be so scared of misgendering me that their mind is on that, not on my healthcare. Just saying.