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Won’t you be hot in that? Aibu to think don’t ask someone this?

308 replies

beenoutontheopenroad · 12/05/2024 09:27

I’m overweight (I’m doing something about it but regardless) and I hate showing parts of my body which is difficult when the suns out.

Yesterday I met up with friends and had a t-shirt on that was a 3 quarter length sleeve. Straight away I got asked “won’t you be hot in that”.

If you’re that person please just don’t comment this, it personally makes me feel shit as it’s taken me ages to get ready and I already feel so far out of my comfort zone . It’s also irrelevant to you if I’m hot as I’m the one who has to deal with it.

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godmum56 · 12/05/2024 18:42

PassingStranger · 12/05/2024 18:17

Exactly people can't mind read and know exactly what they are supposed to say.

It's part of life learning how to brush things off or make light.

I have said it before and I will say it again. I am 70. When i was a child I was taught not to make personal remarks unless they were good compliments. I can be resilient....Does "fuck off and mind your business you mouthy cow" count as resilient?

Gwenhwyfar · 12/05/2024 19:01

fieldsofbutterflies · 12/05/2024 17:53

It's really not any of your business, however much you may like to think otherwise.

I've explained above why it IS my business if someone's lack of planning affects me and other friends.

GrumpyOldCrone · 12/05/2024 19:03

Gwenhwyfar · 12/05/2024 19:01

I've explained above why it IS my business if someone's lack of planning affects me and other friends.

Perhaps some of us are unconvinced that it affects you sufficiently to excuse your personal comments about other people’s choice of clothing.

phoenixrosehere · 12/05/2024 19:06

PassingStranger · 12/05/2024 18:17

Exactly people can't mind read and know exactly what they are supposed to say.

It's part of life learning how to brush things off or make light.

People could just say nothing. It’s not hard to keep comments to yourself.

Unless someone looks like they’re in trouble, hurt, swaying, due to their clothing choice, no comments or faux questioning is necessary.

fieldsofbutterflies · 12/05/2024 19:07

Gwenhwyfar · 12/05/2024 19:01

I've explained above why it IS my business if someone's lack of planning affects me and other friends.

It's still not your business.

If you chose to let someone else's clothing choice dictate how you spend your time, then that's on you.

phoenixrosehere · 12/05/2024 19:08

Rather than dictating how others should think or speak, why not focus on strengthening your emotional resilience to disregard any perceived 'hurty' words.

You can be resilient and also think people are being rude for making comments about your personal choices of clothing that doesn’t effect them. It is not an either/or situation

Gwenhwyfar · 12/05/2024 19:09

fieldsofbutterflies · 12/05/2024 19:07

It's still not your business.

If you chose to let someone else's clothing choice dictate how you spend your time, then that's on you.

No, it's not on me actually. You often get no choice in it.

KateMiskin · 12/05/2024 19:10

godmum56 · 12/05/2024 18:42

I have said it before and I will say it again. I am 70. When i was a child I was taught not to make personal remarks unless they were good compliments. I can be resilient....Does "fuck off and mind your business you mouthy cow" count as resilient?

You'd tell someone who asked if you were hot to fuck off? or have I misread?

fieldsofbutterflies · 12/05/2024 19:10

Gwenhwyfar · 12/05/2024 19:09

No, it's not on me actually. You often get no choice in it.

Well, maybe you need to find friends who can dress themselves appropriately then.

Gwenhwyfar · 12/05/2024 19:11

fieldsofbutterflies · 12/05/2024 19:10

Well, maybe you need to find friends who can dress themselves appropriately then.

Well, yes, ideally. The fact is that people are not perfect unfortunately.

fieldsofbutterflies · 12/05/2024 19:12

Gwenhwyfar · 12/05/2024 19:11

Well, yes, ideally. The fact is that people are not perfect unfortunately.

They're not, but that doesn't mean you can make negative or inappropriate comments about their choice of clothing.

Gwenhwyfar · 12/05/2024 19:17

fieldsofbutterflies · 12/05/2024 19:12

They're not, but that doesn't mean you can make negative or inappropriate comments about their choice of clothing.

As I've said I don't know how many times, if their stupid choices affect me I will make comments or ask questions about their choice of clothing. People do it for me as well and I just answer.

TrailOfTime · 12/05/2024 19:18

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Gwenhwyfar · 12/05/2024 19:18

Gwenhwyfar · 12/05/2024 19:17

As I've said I don't know how many times, if their stupid choices affect me I will make comments or ask questions about their choice of clothing. People do it for me as well and I just answer.

And "won't you be too hot/cold in that?" is neither negative nor inappropriate nor personal actually. It's a perfectly normal question about clothes and the weather.

DaisyHaites · 12/05/2024 19:21

fieldsofbutterflies · 12/05/2024 17:56

There are about a million things people say that can be misinterpreted and taken offensively. People can’t avoid saying these things or we all become too scared to say anything. In my view, resilience has to be the only way forward to keep your sanity.

For me, avoiding making personal comments about someone's choice of clothing is just completely unnecessary (unless you're being complimentary).

You wouldn't need to worry about being misinterpreted or causing offence if you just...didn't say anything in the first place.

If I'm too hot and want to go somewhere with air conditioning, then I would just say so. I don't need someone making an awkward comment about my appearance to do that.

Okay so no comments about appearance.

Can I ask how your family are doing? Because what if they’re not doing well and it’s triggering, or you’ve had a fall out with them that you don’t want to talk about.

Can I ask what you did at the weekend? What if you were so depressed you didn’t get out of bed and are ashamed about that.

Oh, maybe where you’re going on holiday. But oh no - there’s a cost of living crisis and what if they can’t afford to go away and now I’ve upset them by reminding them.

I could ask what’s for tea tonight, but that’d be commenting on eating habits so that’s best avoided.

Maybe I’ll ask about work… but if someone had been put at notice of redundancy then they won’t want to ruin the day talking about that.

EVERYTHING has the potential to be triggering. And all of those examples have more chance of upsetting me than something as trivial as comment about the clothes I chose to put on that morning, which is something I can change if I take the comment to heart. I’m hardly walking round telling my friends they have ugly noses. I’m caring about their wellbeing.

So is it just personal appearance? eating habits have also been mentioned on this thread. Just so I know, what is weirdly and arbitrarily out of bounds too? I assume politics, religion and money… anything else?’

KateMiskin · 12/05/2024 19:29

@DaisyHaites I got into trouble the other day asking an acquaintance what she was reading. I was informed that she doesn't have time to read, and she can't afford books. I did want to mention libraries, but I decided to let it pass, and slunk guiltily away because I do have time to read a bit.

godmum56 · 12/05/2024 19:40

KateMiskin · 12/05/2024 19:10

You'd tell someone who asked if you were hot to fuck off? or have I misread?

If they were saying "aren't you hot in that?" "shouldn't you be wearing something else" "won't you be cold?" "what will you do if it rains?" and similar crap then yes. I reserve the right to speak like a resilient person!

willWillSmithsmith · 12/05/2024 19:42

godmum56 · 12/05/2024 18:42

I have said it before and I will say it again. I am 70. When i was a child I was taught not to make personal remarks unless they were good compliments. I can be resilient....Does "fuck off and mind your business you mouthy cow" count as resilient?

Would you actually say that to someone (anyone) who asked if you’d be hot in that? Really?

KateMiskin · 12/05/2024 19:43

Good to know @godmum56.

willWillSmithsmith · 12/05/2024 19:44

godmum56 · 12/05/2024 19:40

If they were saying "aren't you hot in that?" "shouldn't you be wearing something else" "won't you be cold?" "what will you do if it rains?" and similar crap then yes. I reserve the right to speak like a resilient person!

So if you were chatting with a vicar at a wedding you’d say it? If a little old lady at the bus stop said it you’d say it? No you wouldn’t.

phoenixrosehere · 12/05/2024 19:47

DaisyHaites · 12/05/2024 19:21

Okay so no comments about appearance.

Can I ask how your family are doing? Because what if they’re not doing well and it’s triggering, or you’ve had a fall out with them that you don’t want to talk about.

Can I ask what you did at the weekend? What if you were so depressed you didn’t get out of bed and are ashamed about that.

Oh, maybe where you’re going on holiday. But oh no - there’s a cost of living crisis and what if they can’t afford to go away and now I’ve upset them by reminding them.

I could ask what’s for tea tonight, but that’d be commenting on eating habits so that’s best avoided.

Maybe I’ll ask about work… but if someone had been put at notice of redundancy then they won’t want to ruin the day talking about that.

EVERYTHING has the potential to be triggering. And all of those examples have more chance of upsetting me than something as trivial as comment about the clothes I chose to put on that morning, which is something I can change if I take the comment to heart. I’m hardly walking round telling my friends they have ugly noses. I’m caring about their wellbeing.

So is it just personal appearance? eating habits have also been mentioned on this thread. Just so I know, what is weirdly and arbitrarily out of bounds too? I assume politics, religion and money… anything else?’

EVERYTHING has the potential to be triggering. And all of those examples have more chance of upsetting me than something as trivial as comment about the clothes I chose to put on that morning, which is something I can change if I take the comment to heart. I’m hardly walking round telling my friends they have ugly noses. I’m caring about their wellbeing.

We’re all different aren’t we on what we find annoying, upsetting, or your words “triggering”.

If you’re close friends with someone, wouldn’t you already know most of the answers to those examples.

Asking what someone is having for tea, is also not the same as asking someone about why they are wearing xyz because you think they should feel and dress a certain way due to your own personal feelings about the weather. It isn’t hard to distinguish the difference.

DaisyHaites · 12/05/2024 19:51

KateMiskin · 12/05/2024 19:29

@DaisyHaites I got into trouble the other day asking an acquaintance what she was reading. I was informed that she doesn't have time to read, and she can't afford books. I did want to mention libraries, but I decided to let it pass, and slunk guiltily away because I do have time to read a bit.

I hadn’t thought about the dangers of that question! Thanks for bringing to my attention, I’m going to need a notebook to keep track of what’s okay to say and what isn’t!

myusernamewastakenbyme · 12/05/2024 19:55

I get irritated by this too...I dont like wearing socks...even in the middle of winter i will be barefoot if possible....the amount of stupid comments i get telling me my feet must be freezing is unreal....its gets tedious and tiresome after a while.

RampantIvy · 12/05/2024 20:01

The only ime I commented on what someone was wearing was when DH and I took some American visitors to York for the day. When we picked them up from the hotel the wife was wearing very high heels. I gently suggested that she might want to wear something more comfortable on her feet as we would be doing a lot of walking, and not all of it on flat pavements.

She said that she was used to wearing heels all the time, so I didn't say anything else.

DaisyHaites · 12/05/2024 20:05

phoenixrosehere · 12/05/2024 19:47

EVERYTHING has the potential to be triggering. And all of those examples have more chance of upsetting me than something as trivial as comment about the clothes I chose to put on that morning, which is something I can change if I take the comment to heart. I’m hardly walking round telling my friends they have ugly noses. I’m caring about their wellbeing.

We’re all different aren’t we on what we find annoying, upsetting, or your words “triggering”.

If you’re close friends with someone, wouldn’t you already know most of the answers to those examples.

Asking what someone is having for tea, is also not the same as asking someone about why they are wearing xyz because you think they should feel and dress a certain way due to your own personal feelings about the weather. It isn’t hard to distinguish the difference.

I’m so glad you picked that question as your example.

I intermittent fast so often don’t eat an evening meal. It’s not weight related but I’m pre-diabetic and when I say I’m not eating tea, there is an inevitable next question of ‘why’ when I’m clearly not overweight or trying to lose weight… Why do you think it’s okay to assume I eat a certain way based on your own personal feelings about food? You’d be forcing me to lie or lead into a conversation about my medical history that I might want to share.

I’m also a very picky eater and so I hate answering questions about what I’m planning to eat. So you would have offended me WAY more by asking that question than if I was hot in what I was wearing. But I know that’s a me thing and so due to my resilience, I’m not asking everyone to be more sensitive when asking a question that would be benign to most of the world…

And I know those things about my friends - because I ask those questions and they choose to share or they don’t (also, I don’t just speak to ‘close friends’, I interact with a whole range of people from stranger to acquaintance to friend to family).

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