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To think you can't put a toilet outside someone's bedroom?

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SapphosRock · 10/05/2024 11:33

House on the left is having work done.

House on the right has no involvement in the work.

AIBU to think you can't just put a random portaloo above someone's front door and outside their bedroom window?

To think you can't put a toilet outside someone's bedroom?
To think you can't put a toilet outside someone's bedroom?
OP posts:
Aparecium · 11/05/2024 20:40

Or does that front door open straight onto public highway? If so, does the householder have any rights over what is placed in front of their house?

Even if no rights, that is such an antisocial and inappropriate thing to do.

rwalker · 11/05/2024 21:07

Nightjar33 · 11/05/2024 19:29

Is this a joke it looks that way.
Theres no way a portaloo can be emptied in that position 🤣

Won’t be a problem they have suction tanker with long hose on reel

Nightjar33 · 11/05/2024 21:31

Omg then I would be in a rage 😡

NickyT64 · 11/05/2024 21:51

Besides anything it is Trespass!!! Criminal Damage!
I have NEVER seen a portaloo anywhere other than on ground level! Do you could be in your bedroom with a guy taking a piss just outside your window. what’s wrong with outside the house they’re working on? It’s like a (bad) slapstick comedy sketch!

Princesspollyyy · 11/05/2024 22:15

Who are the builders? Contact their company and complain, say you want it removed from the front of your property as you cannot open your bedroom window and it is obstructing your view, and it smells.

Coco1379 · 11/05/2024 22:21

Why is the scaffolding even extending over the property on the right?

BeyondMyWits · 12/05/2024 09:10

Coco1379 · 11/05/2024 22:21

Why is the scaffolding even extending over the property on the right?

It isn't. It is extending over a pavement, "owned" by the council, that just happens to go past the front of the property on the right.
If it was extending over the OP's property, there would be no issue.

OutOfTheHouse · 12/05/2024 09:32

NickyT64 · 11/05/2024 21:51

Besides anything it is Trespass!!! Criminal Damage!
I have NEVER seen a portaloo anywhere other than on ground level! Do you could be in your bedroom with a guy taking a piss just outside your window. what’s wrong with outside the house they’re working on? It’s like a (bad) slapstick comedy sketch!

It’s not trespass or criminal damage. It’s not touching the house or on their land. As far as the scaffolding goes it’s no different to when a utility company digs up the road or pavement outside your house.

MyTherapistSaidImAnAdult · 12/05/2024 11:32

This post actually made me laugh out loud at how ridiculous this situation is! Even showed pics to hubby who exclaimed a very unlike him response of "WHAT THE FUCK?" 😆
Our next door neighbours have just had a loft conversion so we've had scaffolding up for last few months with their build. Scaffolding was only secure AF if they were able to put some over our boarder... didn't inconvenience us in the slightest but they STILL had to ask permission (which I agreed they could) They also asked permission to come across our newly laid driveway to do it. I said no to that and they had to take the long way round.
This is absolutely bat shit!

rainbowstardrops · 12/05/2024 11:52

It looks as if the scaffolding across the house on the right, has been purposely put up to accommodate the portaloo! I'd be creating merry hell about that!

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 12/05/2024 11:55

Nightjar33 · 11/05/2024 19:29

Is this a joke it looks that way.
Theres no way a portaloo can be emptied in that position 🤣

A large truck turns up.
They connect a big thick flexible pipe and suck it all up.
Its grim! And really stinks!

NickyT64 · 12/05/2024 15:17

OutOfTheHouse · 12/05/2024 09:32

It’s not trespass or criminal damage. It’s not touching the house or on their land. As far as the scaffolding goes it’s no different to when a utility company digs up the road or pavement outside your house.

Actually it is.
confirmed by a litigation solicitor specialising in land/property issues. No permission sought let alone granted doesn’t help in this situation.
From a lay person’s point of view- are you telling me if you opened your curtains one morning to a shedload of scaffolding and a portaloo you wouldn’t have a problem?!

Cherrysoup · 12/05/2024 15:24

Get onto building control at your council and environmental health. That’s appalling. Have you been sent a party wall agreement? Has their surveyor contacted you? Should be at least 2 month before work starts.

Do you know the neighbours or are they new? They can’t just put scaffolding over your property, they risk damaging it, at which point you can sue them. Is the company name on vehicles? I’d be contacting head office or whoever the owner is.

OutOfTheHouse · 12/05/2024 15:35

NickyT64 · 12/05/2024 15:17

Actually it is.
confirmed by a litigation solicitor specialising in land/property issues. No permission sought let alone granted doesn’t help in this situation.
From a lay person’s point of view- are you telling me if you opened your curtains one morning to a shedload of scaffolding and a portaloo you wouldn’t have a problem?!

I’m not saying I wouldn’t have a problem but the house doesn’t own the pavement so I don’t see that they have any right to claim trespass. They have every right to be very pissed off, and I wouldn’t be at all happy. But the scaffold isn’t touching anything that own.

I might not like a bloody great lorry parked outside my house, for example, but if it’s on the public highway it’s not trespass onto my land.

But then I’m not a litigation solicitor so it might well be more complicated than that.

Magnastorm · 12/05/2024 19:07

SoupDragon · 11/05/2024 19:21

So, you had one outside your own house whilst you did work on it. Hardly the same as installing one outside your neighbour's bedroom window is it?

Well, yes it is the same. Whether the loo was outside because of work on my house or my neighbours house is irrelevant.

In the situation posted, provided it wasn't going to be months and months and the relevant agreement for the scaffolding being there was in place, it wouldn't bother me to have a portaloo outside my window. They don't smell nearly as bad as some of the pearlclutchers here would have you believe, and the workmen need to have access to a toilet somehow.

Shockingly pragmatic, I know.

nobodysdaughter · 12/05/2024 19:15

Oh! I know exactly where this is and walked past it the other day - I thought it was crazy then!

SapphosRock · 12/05/2024 19:29

nobodysdaughter · 12/05/2024 19:15

Oh! I know exactly where this is and walked past it the other day - I thought it was crazy then!

Hi neighbour 👋

I'm thinking of sending the pictures to the Argus and see if that shames them into taking it down.

OP posts:
NickyT64 · 12/05/2024 20:45

OutOfTheHouse · 12/05/2024 15:35

I’m not saying I wouldn’t have a problem but the house doesn’t own the pavement so I don’t see that they have any right to claim trespass. They have every right to be very pissed off, and I wouldn’t be at all happy. But the scaffold isn’t touching anything that own.

I might not like a bloody great lorry parked outside my house, for example, but if it’s on the public highway it’s not trespass onto my land.

But then I’m not a litigation solicitor so it might well be more complicated than that.

But I’m not talking about the pavement! Why do you think that?? I’m talking about the scaffolding encroaching on yo her house and the bloody big blue portaloo which us definitely not on the pavement!!!!!!

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 12/05/2024 21:07

OutOfTheHouse · 12/05/2024 15:35

I’m not saying I wouldn’t have a problem but the house doesn’t own the pavement so I don’t see that they have any right to claim trespass. They have every right to be very pissed off, and I wouldn’t be at all happy. But the scaffold isn’t touching anything that own.

I might not like a bloody great lorry parked outside my house, for example, but if it’s on the public highway it’s not trespass onto my land.

But then I’m not a litigation solicitor so it might well be more complicated than that.

No it’s not more complicated as long as access isn’t blocked.

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 12/05/2024 21:10

NickyT64 · 11/05/2024 21:51

Besides anything it is Trespass!!! Criminal Damage!
I have NEVER seen a portaloo anywhere other than on ground level! Do you could be in your bedroom with a guy taking a piss just outside your window. what’s wrong with outside the house they’re working on? It’s like a (bad) slapstick comedy sketch!

Portaloos are often put above ground level on scaffolding.
Big Ben had them during renovations

OutOfTheHouse · 12/05/2024 21:25

NickyT64 · 12/05/2024 20:45

But I’m not talking about the pavement! Why do you think that?? I’m talking about the scaffolding encroaching on yo her house and the bloody big blue portaloo which us definitely not on the pavement!!!!!!

Because the scaffolding is on the pavement, not on the house.

MaggieHM · 13/05/2024 05:33

Don't they have a back garden it could go on. I think it's disgusting, inappropriate and unhealthy. Also why can't they have it outside their own house not the neighbours. You can also have it or something similar inside the renovating property. We did back in 1972 we had to use a glorified barrel with a toilet seat on top.

8misskitty8 · 13/05/2024 06:55

I hope it is secure and it doesn’t leak as looking at the photo again it’s actually above the OP front door.
Surely a health and safety matter ?

Allshallbewell2021 · 13/05/2024 07:43

OP, this portaloo lives in my head now.

Any news gratefully received.

asdfgasdfg · 13/05/2024 10:07

next door have a portaloo in their front garden, the rental company come and "vacuum" it out every day about 7:30 so no smell but how would they get up to that level of your one to empty/clean it?

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