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.... to be so upset about DS's 21st birthday

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Ladydriver110 · 06/05/2024 21:05

I am menopausal which is probably affecting how I feel about this but I am so upset and need to write it down to hopefully stop myself from going over and over it in my head.

I am an only child and a single parent to a DS who turned 21 today. I live half a mile from my mum who has given me a huge amount of support raising my DS right from birth. He's got a bedroom at her house and has always stayed there a lot. For the last couple of years he's stayed there most nights - he says it's because she has much better wifi for his gaming - but I think he also likes that she does everything for him (cooking, laundry etc) being the doting grandma that she is. DS is ND and almost certainly has ADHD so needs a lot of support and 'management'. He also has a tendency to be thoughtless and irresponsible so maybe my expectations are too high.

In preparation for DS's birthday I spent an enormous amount of time, thought, effort and money planning birthday gifts. I filled a bag with a combination of small bits (like toiletries), special things related to his special interests (some of which I had commissioned to be specially made), and a box containing a decent amount of cash, all lovingly wrapped. There was also a very large and extremely heavy unwrappable gift that wasn't going to be a surprise because DS had chosen it himself, really expecting that it would be his only gift because of its cost. I took the bag of wrapped gifts to my mum's house yesterday ready for us all to get together today, and I put it out of sight.

Present-unwrapping has always been a Big Thing in our small family. Even on Christmas Day, we'd wait for my DM to come over before opening our gifts. Generally we only do token gifts for adults, so events have always been centred around my DS. I was really looking forward to giving DS his surprise gifts, making sure that the best ones were saved for last, seeing his face when he opened the special ones, explaining why and how some of them were designed and made, wanting to see him excited and happy, and taking a few photos of it all. It was especially significant because I'd pushed the boat out for DS's special birthday, and it could well be the last one where there would be real substantial gifts.

DS went out last night and wasn't sure about when or if he'd be coming home. I thought that if he didn't come home, I'd go to my mum's for lunch as usual and take the final heavy gift with me. It appears that he stayed out and went directly to DM's house, with a friend in tow, some time this morning.

At noon I got a phone call from DS asking me if I was coming over for lunch soon. "Happy birthday" I said. "I'm on my way" I said. "Can't wait to see you open your prezzies" I said. "Already opened them" he said. "Nan said I could" he said. I thought he was having me on, but no. He really had opened everything without me being there. I was terribly upset and didn't believe that my mum would have okayed this at all - and I made this very clear to him.

I dragged the big gift down to the car and set off, only to see DS driving away in the opposite direction. He refused to acknowledge me when we passed. At DM's house I walked in and asked (quite angrily, I admit) if she'd told DS he could open his gifts. She responded equally angrily to say yes, what was she supposed to say - no? We had a short but rather loud exchange where I pointed out that I was only five minutes away and all I needed was a phone call, and she told me not to shout at her in her own home and to get out.

I don't think it was right for my DM to give DS my gifts, and it was more than thoughtless of both of them to sit around (with mum's partner and DS's friend), having a jolly time opening gifts and admiring the special ones without me. I am tremendously upset on two counts:

  • after all my anticipation, I missed out on the joy and pleasure of watching my only child receive all the things I'd carefully planned and bought. I missed the whole essence of the birthday experience (DS wouldn't hang around afterwards, he doesn't do 'social', he'd be back in his room on his xbox minutes after gift time).
  • my presence was so unimportant that I just wasn't missed. No-one cared enough to make a quick phone call. I feel so hurt.

AIBU?

OP posts:
BruFord · 08/05/2024 17:29

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 08/05/2024 17:15

If the gifts have been dropped off at the house, and no instructions have been left that gifter will be coming around at X time to be there for the opening, then I'd think they had been dropped off for me to open

I think her Mum would have realized that the OP would want to be there, @ButWhatAboutTheBees , given that their family tradition is to open gifts together.

I can understand her son not realizing as he’s impulsive.

Anyway, feelings are hurt all round and that’s never nice.

Catpuss66 · 08/05/2024 17:40

Robinni · 08/05/2024 09:08

@Ladydriver110

Have you ever considered that you might be ND, I am asking due to your communication style which is detailed and elaborate, inability to adapt and cope with unexpected changes to plan, lesser emotional regulation than would be expected for your age (unable to can your upset in front of son; it all tumbled out), and due to the fact that you are fixated on your own perspective.

Your son also shows lack of theory of mind, he wasn’t thinking about all the emotion you had caught up in these gifts or that you would have preferred to have been there for the opening…. He was fixated on his own agenda - I’m 21, I want to open the presents quickly and get out and enjoy my day.

Your Mum was probably trying to handle him and knew she’d be facing him being irritable or agitated all morning if he couldn’t get ‘step 1’, opening of presents, completed ✔️

You need to deploy a filter and not spill out exactly what you think. Instead of ‘happy birthday son, I hope you liked your gifts, what are you going to do with your day, can I come see you etc”…. He was met with complaints regarding his presents and your not being able to derive pleasure from them, followed by an attack on his grandmother….. the woman who has taken on responsibility for his and meets all of his needs (that he really cares about - special interests). Which one of you do you think he has more loyalty to?

I know you are probably worn out and the marathon it is to be parenting an autistic/to be one. I would employ as much emotional resilience as possible right now, put out the emotional fire - you can’t do anything to change what’s happened but you do have control over how you respond to this.

Smooth it over with your Mum, apologise for the overreaction, explain calmly what your expectations were and why you were disappointed, explain what you would like to happen in future, and thank her for what she does for your son.

In future try and keep things like that in your control - 21 is not the end…. There is 25, 30, 40… potential grandchildren’s birthdays and so on… towards his 30s he might move away from the games and cars.

Ring your son and apologise for getting upset, again calmly - but quickly - say you were a bit disappointed to miss seeing him open his gifts, ask if he liked them. Ask if he’d like to come out for the day and do something together… if it were me I’d be suggesting something like that gamer convention, or car show, or place you really love to eat. That way you can recapture the special time with him. If he says no, don’t be disheartened, there is Christmas coming and next year’s birthday; he doesn’t stop being special or your son due to a number. Above all don’t be bitchy or complain about your mother to him, take the higher ground and deal with issues direct with her - it isn’t fair to get him involved and it will create a divide between you and your son. If you can provide more for him at home in terms of what he needs that would solve the problem, however I can appreciate he is probably in a fixed routine now, dependent on your mother emotionally and that having her take some of the burden gives you respite, so do whatever works best collectively for you all.

No. You are a very rude person. How many autistic children have you bought up single-handedly. Have you ever thought you might be ND as there is no emotional empathy in this post. She has nothing to apologise for. This is applicable to you
‘You need to deploy a filter and not spill out exactly what you think.’

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 08/05/2024 17:40

Catpuss66 · 08/05/2024 17:21

She was not in the wrong. She has a right to be upset by 2 adults in her family who had little thought for her feelings. She has done her owing he is over 20yrs of age & he has acknowledged his thoughtlessness. The whole post was about her that was the point, not about how to deal with autism or how to deal with her mother, it was about her feelings. Apart from anything where is your empathy she was upset & you pile on more guilt . Shame on you.

Shame on me?

🤣

She asked if she was unreasonable

She was. You think it's ok to shout at someone so much they have to ask you to leave your house?

I can guarantee that if her DM came here and said "it was my DGS birthday the other day. He lives with me. His mom, my DD, had dropped the gifts off already so he opened them. She didn't ring up to wish him happy birthday and he ended up calling her. She got really upset he'd opened his gifts and shouted at him. He went out because this upset him. She came around and started shouting at me for letting him open the gifts. It got so bad I had to ask her to leave. Was I BU?" Then the replies would be saying she wasn't, the daughter was ungrateful, she shouldn't shout like that in the DMs house

Catpuss66 · 08/05/2024 17:47

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ButWhatAboutTheBees · 08/05/2024 17:54

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It is what happened!

Her son had to ring to ask if she was coming around. That's when she found out he'd opened the gifts and she had a go at him. Called him a liar essentially. Then went round, where he had already left, and had a go at her DM

Her DM didn't give them to this ADULT. He asked if he could open HIS gifts and she didn't stop him (because he's an adult).

I've got nothing to be ashamed of. I'm not the one making someone else's birthday about me, shouting at them and then at my DM until I have to be asked to leave....

Alwaysalwayscold · 08/05/2024 17:58

Yes shame on you. Pity your children wonder how they are going to turn out.

What a vile thing to say to someone simply because they don't agree with you. Perhaps apply your statement to your own self.

Nuttyputty · 08/05/2024 18:58

Angeldelight50 · 07/05/2024 14:30

Why ask MN if YABU when you don’t want to hear YABU.

Its 74% not unreasonable

Nuttyputty · 08/05/2024 19:01

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 07/05/2024 15:14

Don't ask strangers for advice then...

Because you definitely owe both him and your DM an apology for shouting at them and making him birthday about you

She didn't ask for advice. Ashe asked if she was being unreasonable. Which she isn't.

Ladydriver110 · 08/05/2024 19:17

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 08/05/2024 17:01

Also

You made his friend a gift too and put it in your son's presents even though you didn't know for sure that friend would even BE there? What if friend hadn't been there? Would you have snatched the gift off son until friend came around?

Don't be silly. I'd already told DS that I'd made a gift for friend too, but he couldn't pass it on until after DS had received his own as it would spoil the surprise. Friend's gift was in a different bag and the plan was that DS would hand it over next time they met.

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Arraminta · 08/05/2024 19:28

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 06/05/2024 21:26

You took the presents around to DM's house

Since they were there, it would appear you took them there for him to open. He's an adult, he's not a 5 year old. His gifts were there. He can open them.

Is it possible he didn't see you? Or your attitude on the phone that he'd opened his gifts made him think you would kick off (which you did) and he decided he didn't want to deal with your sulking and attitude on his birthday?

Frankly you sound bitter that you weren't there to talk about how wonderful you were for picking his gifts and how much effort you'd spent. I'd get pretty pissed off if I was opening gifts and the person who brought them kept talking about how much they knew I'd love this and how they commission this specially and how this one was handmade this way etc... its making it about them

This! A thousand times this! Gifts should always be freely given with no expectations or hidden agendas. I can't believe the OP planned on describing each gift's merits in great detail to her son. I mean, seriously? And I'm fairly sure her DS assumed it was fine to open his presents as the OP had already delivered them. Especially as his main present had been kept back for later and his Mum was bringing it over.

Reading between the lines I suspect the DS prefers living at his grannies because the atmosphere is a lot less suffocating and he's not treated like a toddler.

RedHelenB · 08/05/2024 19:33

YABU because there's way too much drama and angst. Just ask him to t me to yours to receive his presents if you want to control the occasion.

MaryFuckingFerguson · 08/05/2024 19:36

I get that you’re upset, but it doesn’t sound like he’s very close to you.

You’ve made this into an enormous hoo-hah, mostly about you. I’d take a step back if I were you.

I remember a couple of years ago, when our eldest was 21, we drove miles to his uni to see him and take him somewhere swanky for lunch. He was massively hungover, was watching the clock as his house was hosting the main event (a party) for him that night AND he threw a strop because he didn’t want to open any presents in the restaurant.

Looking back, we were all dicks.

Arraminta · 08/05/2024 19:39

I don't understand why her son had to actually phone her to find out if his Mum was coming over on his birthday? After such huge amounts of planning and preparation over the presents I'm really surprised that there hadn't been a pre-arranged schedule for the day of his birthday?

CurlyhairedAssassin · 08/05/2024 19:50

Blimey. Even just reading this thread makes me feel suffocated.

shepherdsangeldelight · 08/05/2024 19:56

Birthdays aside, am I the only one thinking it is odd that the DS has moved to his gran's house because she has better wifi and his mum refuses to get fibre broadband?

I have a similar aged DS who lives with me, and if he wanted better broadband for his gaming, I would be costing it up and then asking him to pay all or a proportion of the difference. Not telling him he can go and live somewhere else if he doesn't like it. It's a fairly reasonable request!

BruFord · 08/05/2024 20:01

Reading between the lines I suspect the DS prefers living at his grannies because the atmosphere is a lot less suffocating and he's not treated like a toddler.

@Arraminta To me, it sounds as if his Granny treats him like a toddler by doing everything for him! He has his own way entirely there.

Tipsyscripsy · 08/05/2024 20:30

My mum used to do this every single one of her children’s birthdays (would still do it if she could get away with it) as a way to make the day about her.

Even though it was our (mine or my siblings) birthday, we wouldn’t be allowed to have any presents, cake, cards or anything until she was there to witness it.

Often she wouldn’t appear until late in the day so most of the day was spent pretending it wasn’t someone’s birthday to avoid upsetting her.

Im not saying this is the exact situation with you OP, but making your (ND!!!) son wait to open his presents on HIS birthday because of YOUR feelings honestly seems somewhat reminiscent of that…

Anonymous2025 · 08/05/2024 20:35

I would be upset too and I don’t think my mum would do that . That was thoughtless from both of them . Personally I would leave them for the time being . Treat yourself to something nice and if it e the world a few days

Polishedshoesalways · 08/05/2024 20:36

Tipsyscripsy · 08/05/2024 20:30

My mum used to do this every single one of her children’s birthdays (would still do it if she could get away with it) as a way to make the day about her.

Even though it was our (mine or my siblings) birthday, we wouldn’t be allowed to have any presents, cake, cards or anything until she was there to witness it.

Often she wouldn’t appear until late in the day so most of the day was spent pretending it wasn’t someone’s birthday to avoid upsetting her.

Im not saying this is the exact situation with you OP, but making your (ND!!!) son wait to open his presents on HIS birthday because of YOUR feelings honestly seems somewhat reminiscent of that…

That’s really awful. Do you enjoy your birthdays now? I hope so.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 08/05/2024 22:41

Ladydriver110 · 08/05/2024 19:17

Don't be silly. I'd already told DS that I'd made a gift for friend too, but he couldn't pass it on until after DS had received his own as it would spoil the surprise. Friend's gift was in a different bag and the plan was that DS would hand it over next time they met.

So you wouldn't have been there to see friend's reaction and any possible comparisons anyway had that plan happened...

Catpuss66 · 08/05/2024 22:58

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She posted in AIBU

That's asking for comments about how unreasonable she was not looking for support

And, as OP doesn't think she did anything wrong and isn't taking on board that she might have been wrong, I highly doubt its making her feel worse because she lives on her cloud of righteousness.

Robinni · 09/05/2024 09:16

Catpuss66 · 08/05/2024 17:40

No. You are a very rude person. How many autistic children have you bought up single-handedly. Have you ever thought you might be ND as there is no emotional empathy in this post. She has nothing to apologise for. This is applicable to you
‘You need to deploy a filter and not spill out exactly what you think.’

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@Catpuss66

Two actually.

And most of the rest of my family is autistic/adhd/learning difficulties or have traits.

And yes I am autistic myself.

My point in highlighting the neurodiversity was to try and improve OP’s life and relationships both now and in future.

If she doesn’t learn strategies to cope with unexpected circumstances and to communicate more calmly with her mother and son, she is going to end up with deterioration of her relationships and more problems further down the road.

Robinni · 09/05/2024 09:19

Ps @Catpuss66 even though I am a ‘rude’ autistic…. I still can’t imagine ruining parts of my son’s 21st birthday with emotional outbursts, complaints and arguments… because I’m not actually that selfish.

MimiGC · 09/05/2024 09:46

I can see why you're disappointed. I would be too. You put in a lot of effort and they sidelined you. I would take it as a sign that special present opening routines are now over. He's 21, so dial back on extravagant presents from now on and let them both know that's how it'll be going forward.