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AIBU?

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.... to be so upset about DS's 21st birthday

318 replies

Ladydriver110 · 06/05/2024 21:05

I am menopausal which is probably affecting how I feel about this but I am so upset and need to write it down to hopefully stop myself from going over and over it in my head.

I am an only child and a single parent to a DS who turned 21 today. I live half a mile from my mum who has given me a huge amount of support raising my DS right from birth. He's got a bedroom at her house and has always stayed there a lot. For the last couple of years he's stayed there most nights - he says it's because she has much better wifi for his gaming - but I think he also likes that she does everything for him (cooking, laundry etc) being the doting grandma that she is. DS is ND and almost certainly has ADHD so needs a lot of support and 'management'. He also has a tendency to be thoughtless and irresponsible so maybe my expectations are too high.

In preparation for DS's birthday I spent an enormous amount of time, thought, effort and money planning birthday gifts. I filled a bag with a combination of small bits (like toiletries), special things related to his special interests (some of which I had commissioned to be specially made), and a box containing a decent amount of cash, all lovingly wrapped. There was also a very large and extremely heavy unwrappable gift that wasn't going to be a surprise because DS had chosen it himself, really expecting that it would be his only gift because of its cost. I took the bag of wrapped gifts to my mum's house yesterday ready for us all to get together today, and I put it out of sight.

Present-unwrapping has always been a Big Thing in our small family. Even on Christmas Day, we'd wait for my DM to come over before opening our gifts. Generally we only do token gifts for adults, so events have always been centred around my DS. I was really looking forward to giving DS his surprise gifts, making sure that the best ones were saved for last, seeing his face when he opened the special ones, explaining why and how some of them were designed and made, wanting to see him excited and happy, and taking a few photos of it all. It was especially significant because I'd pushed the boat out for DS's special birthday, and it could well be the last one where there would be real substantial gifts.

DS went out last night and wasn't sure about when or if he'd be coming home. I thought that if he didn't come home, I'd go to my mum's for lunch as usual and take the final heavy gift with me. It appears that he stayed out and went directly to DM's house, with a friend in tow, some time this morning.

At noon I got a phone call from DS asking me if I was coming over for lunch soon. "Happy birthday" I said. "I'm on my way" I said. "Can't wait to see you open your prezzies" I said. "Already opened them" he said. "Nan said I could" he said. I thought he was having me on, but no. He really had opened everything without me being there. I was terribly upset and didn't believe that my mum would have okayed this at all - and I made this very clear to him.

I dragged the big gift down to the car and set off, only to see DS driving away in the opposite direction. He refused to acknowledge me when we passed. At DM's house I walked in and asked (quite angrily, I admit) if she'd told DS he could open his gifts. She responded equally angrily to say yes, what was she supposed to say - no? We had a short but rather loud exchange where I pointed out that I was only five minutes away and all I needed was a phone call, and she told me not to shout at her in her own home and to get out.

I don't think it was right for my DM to give DS my gifts, and it was more than thoughtless of both of them to sit around (with mum's partner and DS's friend), having a jolly time opening gifts and admiring the special ones without me. I am tremendously upset on two counts:

  • after all my anticipation, I missed out on the joy and pleasure of watching my only child receive all the things I'd carefully planned and bought. I missed the whole essence of the birthday experience (DS wouldn't hang around afterwards, he doesn't do 'social', he'd be back in his room on his xbox minutes after gift time).
  • my presence was so unimportant that I just wasn't missed. No-one cared enough to make a quick phone call. I feel so hurt.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Ladydriver110 · 07/05/2024 15:17

YouAreLiveOnTelevisionPleaseDoNotSwear · 07/05/2024 15:05

Yeah, really?

He needs to be concentrating on becoming independent. ADHD doesn't mean he can't become this, but it sounds like you and your mum are babying him. Hellish for a future DIL.

I completely agree that he'll be a nightmare for a future DIL - I keep telling him this myself while I am doing everything I can to encourage him to learn adulting. But there is only so much I can do. I can't physically force him to be independent, especially when there is someone else undermining me.

OP posts:
Cherryon · 07/05/2024 15:19

Ladydriver110 · 07/05/2024 15:17

I completely agree that he'll be a nightmare for a future DIL - I keep telling him this myself while I am doing everything I can to encourage him to learn adulting. But there is only so much I can do. I can't physically force him to be independent, especially when there is someone else undermining me.

You tell your DS he will be a “nightmare” for any future parter he has? 🫢
Sorry, but that is heartbreakingly ableist and cruel of you.

Ladydriver110 · 07/05/2024 15:19

NT = neurotypical i.e. not autistic, ADHD or any of the other alphabet soups.

OP posts:
earther · 07/05/2024 15:20

I find you a bit rude TBH.

Ladydriver110 · 07/05/2024 15:21

Cherryon · 07/05/2024 15:19

You tell your DS he will be a “nightmare” for any future parter he has? 🫢
Sorry, but that is heartbreakingly ableist and cruel of you.

Edited

I've told him he will be a nightmare to live with if he can't look after himself, which should be rather obvious to most people but not necessarily to an ND person.

OP posts:
Cherryon · 07/05/2024 15:25

Ladydriver110 · 07/05/2024 15:21

I've told him he will be a nightmare to live with if he can't look after himself, which should be rather obvious to most people but not necessarily to an ND person.

But someone with autism and ADHD can require accomodation for their disabilities in the form of scaffolding- where day to day life admin is sorted for them like meals, bills, laundry while they pull their weight doing other just as valuable things in a partnership- working, running errands, childcare, - whatever their strengths are.

To tell him he will be a “nightmare” because of things he will always struggle with or perhaps never master due to autism and ADHD is unbelievably cruel and ableist.

It is no different from telling a wheelchair using child they will be a ‘nightmare’ for any future partner because they can’t ‘take care of themselves’

RandomButtons · 07/05/2024 15:25

Good grief I lived in a different country by my 21st, I spent it with mates at the pub.

He’s an adult and has his own life now, you need to understand that.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 07/05/2024 15:25

Cherryon · 07/05/2024 15:19

You tell your DS he will be a “nightmare” for any future parter he has? 🫢
Sorry, but that is heartbreakingly ableist and cruel of you.

Edited

I agree that this is just cruel and rude
Probably puts him off wanting to move out because he's internalised this idea!

BruFord · 07/05/2024 15:26

Haven’t RTFT. I’m glad that you’ve made up with your DS and that he understands why you were hurt-it was hurtful to open the presents without you.

I’m getting some overindulged/spoilt vibes from your DM’s relationship with your son though. I know he’s ND, but he’s working and driving, he’s clearly capable of doing things for himself.

You recognize that your Mum (whom I presume is in her 60’s or 70’s) isn’t helping him to mature by doing everything for him. I think that you need to have a word with her about it, even if it turns into an argument. He’s a physically healthy young man who can do his own washing, learn to cook, etc.

Also, is there a reason why he’s running two cars? It doesn’t sound financially prudent given that you have to loan him the car insurance money.

It sounds as if he needs a little push right now to start moving from a dependent child into a more independent adult. Even if he always needs some support, it’s clear just you’re doing your best for him. 💐

RandomButtons · 07/05/2024 15:29

Ladydriver110 · 07/05/2024 15:21

I've told him he will be a nightmare to live with if he can't look after himself, which should be rather obvious to most people but not necessarily to an ND person.

thats really really mean.

I have a ND sibling and my mother long treated him as useless and unable to cope.

Guess what? He’s happily married, thriving within the chaos and excitement of ND life, and very much keeps our mother at arms length.

Take a long hard look in the mirror before you drive your son away completely.

vivainsomnia · 07/05/2024 15:37

Sadly, your DS comes across here as a typical young man who had too much attention from a single household and two very loving women and as a result turned into quite an entitled spoilt young men.

ADHD doesn't mean he can't be more appreciative and work FT.

Cherryon · 07/05/2024 15:37

@BruFord
”You recognize that your Mum (whom I presume is in her 60’s or 70’s) isn’t helping him to mature by doing everything for him. I think that you need to have a word with her about it, even if it turns into an argument. He’s a physically healthy young man who can do his own washing, learn to cook, etc.”

OP is all wrong on this. Her mum is providing necessary scaffolding so the AudHD son can gradually build his independent living skills and master being in paid employment. He can’t do life skills AND navigate paid work with no support like a NT person can. It’s not about maturity or lack thereof, but about his real disabilities.

He needs supporting not shaming.

https://autismspectrumnews.org/a-scaffolded-approach-to-supporting-individuals-with-autism-in-the-community/

shepherdsangeldelight · 07/05/2024 15:38

Ladydriver110 · 07/05/2024 15:00

Congratulations on having a mature and independent, presumably NT, son.

Well, that's rather telling.

Why assume this poster's son is NT? There are plenty of young adults living independently who have ADHD. Your son manages to drive and have a job. If he didn't have two adults assuming he's not capable, who knows what he might be able to do.

gloriawasright · 07/05/2024 15:39

Lost me at "lovingly wrapped". I think You are hard work OP.
The 21st birthday event was all about you.
Too much energy was spend getting annoyed about the presents being opened before you got there.
In future if you want things to go to plan ( your plan) best to make sure everyone knows about it. This birthday has already been ruined, arguing and shouting .storming off etc. what a lovely memory you will all have of DS 21st birthday.

Ladydriver110 · 07/05/2024 15:41

I don't have time to explain everything I've tried to help DS become independent, in fact I don't have any more time at all today to continue with this thread which has completely gone off-topic.
One final answer to a PP's question above - he has two cars because one is a daily runner and one is a classic car, which is his special interest. Driving is one thing he's very good at and very interested in. I have three cars and his father has at least six (might be more by now) so we're clearly happy to support classic car ownership and maintenance - keeping it in the family, so to speak.
And before anyone asks, yes I am also doing my level best to help him (at his request) to get additional driving qualifications and/or a driving job in support of a career in the transport industry.

OP posts:
slashlover · 07/05/2024 15:43

Ladydriver110 · 07/05/2024 15:19

NT = neurotypical i.e. not autistic, ADHD or any of the other alphabet soups.

"Alphabet Soup" is very dismissive.

BruFord · 07/05/2024 15:45

Cherryon · 07/05/2024 15:37

@BruFord
”You recognize that your Mum (whom I presume is in her 60’s or 70’s) isn’t helping him to mature by doing everything for him. I think that you need to have a word with her about it, even if it turns into an argument. He’s a physically healthy young man who can do his own washing, learn to cook, etc.”

OP is all wrong on this. Her mum is providing necessary scaffolding so the AudHD son can gradually build his independent living skills and master being in paid employment. He can’t do life skills AND navigate paid work with no support like a NT person can. It’s not about maturity or lack thereof, but about his real disabilities.

He needs supporting not shaming.

https://autismspectrumnews.org/a-scaffolded-approach-to-supporting-individuals-with-autism-in-the-community/

@Cherryon Did you get that impression? I thought that the OP said that she’s tried to encourage her DS to do things like cook a simple meal, but he refuses. Yet he can learn to drive and work, presumably because he wants to.

Whereas her Mum just does everything for him and doesn’t encourage him to gradually learn these crucial life skills. The problem is that one day, this older lady won’t be around to do this for him.

That's the impression I had from the OP’s posts, I could be wrong.

JadeSheep · 07/05/2024 15:51

PossumBussum · 06/05/2024 21:48

I completely agree.

Me too

loropianalover · 07/05/2024 15:51

ND or not, living with you or not, it is plainly obvious that your DS does not appreciate how special he is treated by you and his grandmother. He has come to expect it. FWIW I think you have every right to be upset about not being included in the gifting, and I think he was extremely bad mannered to drive off in a huff to avoid you after all you did for him.

You say he has a min wage job which sees to his expenses - but it doesn’t, because he gets an interest free loan from you to pay his car insurances (am I right that he has multiple vehicles?).

He is 21 now OP & adult years will fly in, don’t let him get even more stubborn and stuck in his ways. What happens when his granny is too old to cook meals and do laundry, and you still don’t have fibre broadband? I’d seriously look at getting him into doing some courses or upping the hours at work.

JadeSheep · 07/05/2024 15:54

Ladydriver110 · 06/05/2024 22:04

DS does not arrange any cards or presents for me. DM gives him a couple of bottles of wine to give to me on Mother's Day etc. I don't care about receiving gifts, I get the most pleasure out of giving gifts.

Great..... so if/ when he gets a partner he's going to be one of those clueless guys that does nothing, and ends up getting dumped

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 07/05/2024 16:05

The thread isn't derailed. Your attitude towards your son is so telling...

Alwaysalwayscold · 07/05/2024 16:19

Love a good flounce.

CowboyJoanna · 07/05/2024 16:27

OP why are you calling your son ND? Autistic isn't a dirty word you know.
And it doesn't mean he's a little kid.

fieldsofbutterflies · 07/05/2024 16:50

Ladydriver110 · 07/05/2024 15:21

I've told him he will be a nightmare to live with if he can't look after himself, which should be rather obvious to most people but not necessarily to an ND person.

Christ. I'm glad you're not my mother!

peacefull · 07/05/2024 17:22

Most 21 year olds i know or have known are moving on with their own lifes.
I think you need to cut the apron strings.
I moved out in a house share and working at that age I was not expecting gifts.