That The La Leche League have dangerously lost the plot?

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13372909/breastfeeding-charity-bullying-trans-women-row.html

www.msn.com/en-nz/entertainment/music/breastfeeding-charity-suspends-trustees-who-want-to-ban-trans-women-from-its-services/ar-AA1nZKUU

They have always been inclusive of biological women who identify as trans men and also non binary.

But allowing men who identify as women into their sessions whilst vulnerable women are learning how to breastfeed? Seriously? And what about women like myself from a faith that doesn't permit men to be in intimate spaces with women? What about women like myself who are survivors of domestic abuse who had to learn to breastfeed whilst making symptoms of PTSD.
I don't want biological males hijacking these services for women!!!! It makes me feel unsafe, traumatised and afraid for my daughters.

Why is LLL suddenly falling over themselves to accommodate men with fetishes for lactation?

I feel like I'm going crazy when I read what's happening to places like LLL and Girl Guides.

Why are people so dangerously naive now?

What did you google, please? I have tried googling for it over the past year using broad terms and specific terms and it had disappeared. I wonder if it has appeared again when people noticed it was not coming up?

I have had the same experience in trying to find a piece about the growing trend of 'pregnancy' shoots for male people with trans identities. I saw an article about it years ago. There were photographers specialising in this type of shoot where these male people had strap on pregnancy bumps and were having glamour photography done. That article too disappeared. I don't know if the photographers or the trend has disappeared too but there it was....

I think it was just ‘trans woman breastfeeding baby pictures’ - iirc that was what was suggested by google. It was only a few hits down. I searched the same again but no sign of it now.

Very dodgy about the article. I’m sure some activists are watching MN and taking these kind of actions.

Thanks.

I also remember someone who was banned from twitter before Musk took over had a great thread that detailed all the links to male people who were masturbating in female single sex toilets. Because, remember also at the time that twitter allowed pornography to be posted and it was a very 'delicate' situation at the time where you would go and search for a male with a transgender identity's profile on twitter and end up viewing their self published porn.

The thread that was deleted was for quite a few of these male's touting for visits to their porn channels on pay per view sites. But the theme was the growing number of these male people with penises and artificially developed breasts masturbating in cubicles beside women toileting their children as you could hear the mothers and their children loudly in the clips.

When evidence is removed, I think people like to think that it isn't happening.

Yes I hope some clever and organised people have saved all that evidence - those of us that have had concerns for years will remember it all and can discuss it, but people starting to look into ‘can these claims really be true’ are not going to reach a balanced picture. Although that’s modern propaganda on various cultural disputes, not just this one, I’m not sure lots of people will be aware how curated a basic internet search is though, I’m not very techy at all but can see the intentional manipulation of what’s available.

There are many posters on X taking that job very seriously.

Yes, I’m sure lots of them are here too. I’m very grateful.

Just to clarify:

The thread that was deleted was for quite a few of these male's touting for visits to their porn channels on pay per view sites.

There were more that linked directly to twitter posts and other social media posts with this content. It was not just a few who were using it for getting views. it was too many who were very much into ensuring that female people understood that they were doing this in female single sex spaces.. It is intimidation.

And there would be an element of that intimidation to many male people insisting they are allowed to access any group that should be single sex.

Was that the Nig Heke Twitter account? That account was both enlightening and horrifying for what it found and warned women about in terms of men making porn in women’s spaces.

A second account was set up after mass reporting to close the first one down but it hasn’t been posting for about a year (definite content warning if you want to view it):

https://x.com/NigHekeReturns2

I think I remember that Twitter thread @Helleofabore. A very, very long thread with dozens of videos and photos of different men with trans identities masturbating in women's loos. I'm not that easily shocked but the thread made me feel physically sick and stayed with me for a very long time. It comes back to mind every time a woman says she's cool with sharing women's spaces with men who identify as women.

It was Nig's tweet thread. It was archived but some of the links did not work on it.

I will have a look at this new profile Utopia and see if it back and added to. Thank you!

And yes dogo, it was grim reading.

Yes I think they have lost the plot. It is a shame because this organisation has been around for a long time and helped lots of women and babies.

I've seen this too. It should be essential viewing for anyone who thinks this is about being "kind"

I used to post the link on MN threads where people were declaring that these male
people ‘just want to pee. ‘