That The La Leche League have dangerously lost the plot?

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13372909/breastfeeding-charity-bullying-trans-women-row.html

www.msn.com/en-nz/entertainment/music/breastfeeding-charity-suspends-trustees-who-want-to-ban-trans-women-from-its-services/ar-AA1nZKUU

They have always been inclusive of biological women who identify as trans men and also non binary.

But allowing men who identify as women into their sessions whilst vulnerable women are learning how to breastfeed? Seriously? And what about women like myself from a faith that doesn't permit men to be in intimate spaces with women? What about women like myself who are survivors of domestic abuse who had to learn to breastfeed whilst making symptoms of PTSD.
I don't want biological males hijacking these services for women!!!! It makes me feel unsafe, traumatised and afraid for my daughters.

Why is LLL suddenly falling over themselves to accommodate men with fetishes for lactation?

I feel like I'm going crazy when I read what's happening to places like LLL and Girl Guides.

Why are people so dangerously naive now?

It should be biology, not identity. If you birthed a child and breast feeding that child then you can attend meeting otherwise nope.

I didn't know that women's own male partners were banned from the LLL support meetings (they must be banned, since they are biological males).

That doesn't seem like a successful strategy; getting support from one's partner can be vital, since that's the person supporting you at 3am when the nips hurt & the whole situation seems like Hell.

Totally agree!!!!! When I went for breastfeeding support to a similar group ran by midwives, it was a sanctuary for those who had given birth and struggling or needed guidance and support on feeding etc. speaking for myself, if a male or non biological female had been there, I think I would have cried and left! It's tough enough coping with the exhaustion, hormones, physical side of recovering from pregnancy, not to mention the embarrassment of having your boobs out when you are not doing it well or struggling!! I am absolutely horrified!!!!

This is horrific oppression of women who are at their most vulnerable. Disgusting to think a man who wants to abuse a child by using it for his fetish is prioritised in a breast feeding group.

LLL can fuck off. It’s beyond insanity.

Blimey. The founders of LLL must be turning in their graves. Devout Christians who named the charity after Nuestra Señora de la Leche y Buen Parto, meaning "Our Lady of Happy Delivery and Plentiful Milk".

This. They are enabling and encouraging sick perverts to abuse tiny children. ENOUGH.

La Leche League of Gentlemen pretty much sums it up.

At the LLL meeting I attended dads were asked to wait outside as there were women who didn’t feel able to breastfeed with a man in the room, but offered that they could come in at the end when everyone except their partner had left, and ask questions and get advice and support together then.

It worked pretty well, except that the meeting always finished late as the demand for help was way greater than the Leader could meet in two hours a week, so sometimes the dads had a bit of a wait.

LLL are simply admitting to the fact they support Child Abuse, and Paedophilia. Utterly disgusting and I am proud that the UK trustees refused this insanity even if they got suspended for it. The Trans insanity has gone too far. Genuine Transgender people go for it enjoy life. These idiots that cry TERF can get fucked they have destroyed the safety of a community for all LGBT individuals.

This is putting male fetish above infant safety.

It's disgraceful. LLL ought to be ashamed of themselves.

Not to mention that some mothers who are on medication are advised not to breastfeed because of the potential harm to the baby. But it's ok for a male to do it regardless of potential harms because his validation is more important than child safety.

Disgusting.

YANBU. Heartening to see this being reported more widely and also the support here on this more general interest board, ie not just on the FWR board.

This makes me so angry. I'm so fed up of these males putting their narcissistic selfish desires above the needs of women and children. 🤬

Sidetracking the dads like that isn't ideal.

Neither is excluding women that wouldn't feel comfortable with men in the room. You have to pick one. Picking the least worst option is what LLL did in that case. Not in this case.

Honestly I don't really see why not. My DH has always been very hands-on with the kids, an equal partner etc, but was of limited use with the actual mechanics of BFing when I needed help.

I remember being on the maternity ward, my son needed feeding, I was struggling, I was a young mum, on my own (physically at that moment), I had HORRENDOUS after pains and BF was making me physically vomit and the male partners were on the ward visiting, even with the curtain closed I hated it, it felt so intrusive. I just wanted women around me helping me.

I wouldn't have wanted other women's husbands in the room whilst learning to breastfeed.
And what about women who don't have partners supporting them - they shouldn't have to have random men there while trying to breastfeed.

I wouldn't want any males around when accessing breastfeeding support.

Well thats one more reason not to breastfeed!

Any man who wants a baby to suck his nipples is a nonce. Call it out.

I went to a b/f group where many of the women brought their male partners. I felt deeply uncomfortable and I'm not usually the type to mind. There were a couple of men who openly stared. I didn't go back for a second session. None of the men looked particularly useful to their partners.
I think if women really want their menfolk there, then there should be separate couples sessions. The same applies to transwomen if they have female partners, there is no need for them to be in women only sessions.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14070057/amp/Founder-worlds-oldest-Breastfeeding-charity-QUITS-transgender-women.html

It gets worse. Thank goodness for principled women.

Really? Breastfeeding "absolutists" care about the healthy development of children, even if you don't agree with the way they go about it.

The other group have shown that the well being of children is not their top priority.

So I must be ever so dense but why would a trans woman want or need to be at a La Leche meeting. Because, treading carefully, I don't think they are birthing and breast feeding a baby which would seem to be the rationale for the meetings.

Oh my sweet summer child