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Partner wants a baby - am I not compromising?

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Daisyshine90 · 02/05/2024 08:39

My partner (39 this year) wants a baby but I’m still hesitant (34 this year). He brought up trying for a baby about a year in. I said I wasn’t ready as we weren’t even living together yet. He said some things:

“He’s worried for me that I’ll miss my chance” - surely that’s an emotion I should own?
“He’s worried I’ll never be ready” - I said I wanted children just not right then.
“We both met older - he never wanted to be an old dad” - he worked abroad until he was 35 developing his career. (I have a good career too but he is significantly on more than me.)
Some family might not be around next year” - despite no one being ill at the time he said that.

It dawned on me then that he’s desperate to start a family and it’s felt like a pressure ever since. Are these usual things to discuss?

He has offered his own compromises l:
Right at the start of the dating period he was adamant against marriage. It’s been a regular argument since but I started to accept that it wasn’t going to happen. He broke up with his previous partner because she wanted marriage and children and he didn’t/wasn’t ready at the time for kids. Nearly 2 years in, he said he has been thinking about it and now wants to marry me because he cares for me, knows how important it is to me and is willing to compromise. I asked if he could give me a timeline and he said 3 - 4 years but he wants children first. I responded suspiciously and it ended up in another argument. This was because it was on the back of an argument. Was I being unfair in responding that way?

We still don’t live together but I’ll be moving in soon. He has never seen this as a problem though and thinks it’ll work if I get pregnant now and eventually move in. This just seems absurd to me. Now one of his family members is ill with cancer and I’m worried that’s going to be another pressure.

The pressure is hitting hard. I feel so overwhelmed by it that I can’t even think straight about how I feel because I’m thinking about how he feels. I’ve always wanted a family but the thought of being pregnant makes me incredibly anxious. I wanted it to be a decision together, and the pressure just makes me feel as though it’s not my decision.

This is all combined with me moving into a house he is building. Originally he didn’t want me to have any input (just bills) but then after a while we agreed it’d work emotionally if I put some investment in. But now l, after reading up on it, I don’t feel it’s a good idea (not being married) but he’s certain he wants me to put 50% in. The plan is also for his mother to move in the small build next to it (inevitably she will be helping with ‘childcare’). This was his plan really early on so it has never been something we’ve discussed together. I get on with his mum very well but I just feel decisions are out of my control and I’m just fitting into his jigsaw.

I’ve been diagnosed recently with PTSD due tone sexual trauma and have experienced an abusive relationship in the past. I know these impact how I approach relationships and trusting partners. I love him and we have some wonderful times together. Generally we get on really well. It’s just the pressure of the next big steps.

I don’t have many friends who have families yet, so I am surrounded by single friends. I haven’t really been in a position of a serious relationship/living with someone because of my past. This is all new to me and I feel very naive. Does anyone have any advice? Am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
WednesdayAllTheWay · 02/05/2024 11:49

No effin' way.

Venturini · 02/05/2024 11:50

Its a big fat NO from me on all fronts. Trust your instincts and get out of there.

Fluffywigg · 02/05/2024 11:52

You don’t truly know someone until you live with them. Or perhaps I should say, you can’t know how well you will get on living together- until you move in. You need to live together before you bring a baby in to the world imo.

He doesn’t sound like someone that would make a good partner tbh. He sounds selfish and is putting pressure on you for his own gain.

Get rid!

jeaux90 · 02/05/2024 11:59

OP I think your previous trauma has done a number on your boundaries.

They are still way too low.
So many red flags here, he is consistently showing you those but you aren't seeing them.

This situation and the pressure is clearly impacting you and the best way you can help yourself is by removing yourself from it.

Never ever give up your independence financially.

ironorchids · 02/05/2024 12:01

Meadowfinch · 02/05/2024 08:46

So he won't provide you with the security of marriage, you don't even live together yet, but he wants you to risk your health, your career and your ability to provide for yourself or to find yourself a new partner, by having his child.

And he's trying to pressure you, when you've already said you're not ready.

Double down on your contraception and be ready to run for the hills. This has controlling written all over it, in HUGE red letters.

Edited

This.

This a million times.

If marriage if not something he would openly and willingly offer before having children, why should you take on 99% of the risk, and 100% of the physical risk, by getting pregnant?

Eejitmum101 · 02/05/2024 12:03

If you’re not ready, don’t have them! It’s a big responsibility and also is a big commitment and if he is not showing that then I would not continue

DrJonesIpresume · 02/05/2024 12:07

You don't even live together yet, and there he is expecting you to produce a baby, and invest all your money in a house he is building, part of which is for his mother to live in, yet he doesn't want to marry you?

I'd run a mile think long and hard about it before committing either your body as an incubator or your finances to this arrangement.

savethatkitty · 02/05/2024 12:10

Do NOT have a baby with this man!

He wants a baby mama.

He does not want a wife.

As someone else said, these men are terrible partners.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 02/05/2024 12:14

A thousand times no! He sounds well dodgy! And you moving into a house he's building, not wanting you to have any financial input in and moving his mum in next door, and that he doesn't want to get married until you have his baby is shady as anything. Run for the hills. Don't move in with him!

Branleuse · 02/05/2024 12:18

Youre just a uterus to him.

Rookangaroo4 · 02/05/2024 12:19

Omg. Read it back to yourself OP! It’s clear he just wants a baby machine, and someone to contribute 50/50 to a house that’s not inyour name. I doubt the marriage will ever come about after said baby. As for the mother moving in 😱. Get out now!

Ellie525 · 02/05/2024 12:22

Same as PPs... run!!
Dont move in, let this one go. Xxx

AdoraBell · 02/05/2024 12:27

Also, as he wants you pay 50% of the house cost the deeds need to be in both of your names, with no one else( I’m thinking his family) on the deeds.

But still, it seems he thinks he owns you/your body.

Get rid.

123anotherday · 02/05/2024 12:37

Stick to your guns..never, ,ever ever have a child with a man first if you are someone who wants marriage! I get that men have body clocks too and get broody but wanting to trying for a baby before you even live together is very strange. It’s only fair to have the chat with him ,that if he wants a child that much now , it’s best you split up now and he can perhaps find someone who is ready ( we would say to a women wanting a child to move on)

LifeExperience · 02/05/2024 12:43

Do not have children with a man who uses marriage at some time in the future to coerce and control your behavior now.

Ponderingwindow · 02/05/2024 12:55

If he wanted an equal partner in the mother of his child, he would want to get married, he would want to form an economic unit, you would be planning housing together as equal partners, and then you would be ttc.

you take all the risk in having a baby. The risk to your body, the risk to your career. Your loving partner is supposed to do everything in his power to mitigate that risk.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 02/05/2024 13:04

Lawdy my eyebrows are in my hairline!

He has everything planned out and you're just along for the ride, who cares what you want, what you need.

He will never marry you. You will be under his and his mother's thumb, living in a house he owns and you have no claim over. He's built his career up, but as you're not allowed the same, you'll be perpetually 'behind' in terms of finances and something tells me he's the 'separate finances' type.

GelatoPistacchio · 02/05/2024 13:16

I started reading and tried to be objective. If the roles were reversed, does it feel like you have agreed on this and are now moving the goal posts (which we would hate if a bloke did this)?

But no, you are being reasonable and he is a walking red flag.

Your subconscious is telling you something isn't right and having a child with this man would be a bad idea - for all the reasons previous posters have said.

NeverDoneThisBefore989 · 02/05/2024 13:28

Run.

godmum56 · 02/05/2024 13:31

yeah just do not do this.

earther · 02/05/2024 13:46

Sounds like a trap RUN.
And dont worry about missing your chance to a mum women are having babies at almost 50 now.

YankSplaining · 02/05/2024 13:46

Nearly 2 years in, he said he has been thinking about it and now wants to marry me because he cares for me, knows how important it is to me and is willing to compromise.

He couldn’t even manage to say that he loves you, just that he “cares for you”?!

MillshakePickle · 02/05/2024 13:54

It's the gentlest way I can. You posted about this last year, I think. Or I remember one very, very similar.

The overwhelming advice then, as it is now, was to leave, do not have children with this man. Marry before investing money or your uterus.

This man sees you, his mother, and probably every other woman in his life as commodities; to be used and tolerated. Setting you up as the baby producer, housekeeper, and his mother as the childcare.

You know this isn't right. A relationship shouldn't be a negotiation or comprises on this scale. You deserve better than this. Don't let him rush you into anything else. Life is too short to live like this, his way with little or no say over your future. You deserve to be happy and no work out contractual agreements within your relationship like this.

You can do better.

Ifyoucouldreadmymindlove · 02/05/2024 13:56

My god, he’s a walking red flag. Fucking run

MrsCarson · 02/05/2024 13:57

He doesn't want to marry you
He doesn't want you to own part of the house
He just wants to use your uterus and have you pay half the bills.
He's a walking red flag, you will have no security if you move in and start a family.