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Partner wants a baby - am I not compromising?

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Daisyshine90 · 02/05/2024 08:39

My partner (39 this year) wants a baby but I’m still hesitant (34 this year). He brought up trying for a baby about a year in. I said I wasn’t ready as we weren’t even living together yet. He said some things:

“He’s worried for me that I’ll miss my chance” - surely that’s an emotion I should own?
“He’s worried I’ll never be ready” - I said I wanted children just not right then.
“We both met older - he never wanted to be an old dad” - he worked abroad until he was 35 developing his career. (I have a good career too but he is significantly on more than me.)
Some family might not be around next year” - despite no one being ill at the time he said that.

It dawned on me then that he’s desperate to start a family and it’s felt like a pressure ever since. Are these usual things to discuss?

He has offered his own compromises l:
Right at the start of the dating period he was adamant against marriage. It’s been a regular argument since but I started to accept that it wasn’t going to happen. He broke up with his previous partner because she wanted marriage and children and he didn’t/wasn’t ready at the time for kids. Nearly 2 years in, he said he has been thinking about it and now wants to marry me because he cares for me, knows how important it is to me and is willing to compromise. I asked if he could give me a timeline and he said 3 - 4 years but he wants children first. I responded suspiciously and it ended up in another argument. This was because it was on the back of an argument. Was I being unfair in responding that way?

We still don’t live together but I’ll be moving in soon. He has never seen this as a problem though and thinks it’ll work if I get pregnant now and eventually move in. This just seems absurd to me. Now one of his family members is ill with cancer and I’m worried that’s going to be another pressure.

The pressure is hitting hard. I feel so overwhelmed by it that I can’t even think straight about how I feel because I’m thinking about how he feels. I’ve always wanted a family but the thought of being pregnant makes me incredibly anxious. I wanted it to be a decision together, and the pressure just makes me feel as though it’s not my decision.

This is all combined with me moving into a house he is building. Originally he didn’t want me to have any input (just bills) but then after a while we agreed it’d work emotionally if I put some investment in. But now l, after reading up on it, I don’t feel it’s a good idea (not being married) but he’s certain he wants me to put 50% in. The plan is also for his mother to move in the small build next to it (inevitably she will be helping with ‘childcare’). This was his plan really early on so it has never been something we’ve discussed together. I get on with his mum very well but I just feel decisions are out of my control and I’m just fitting into his jigsaw.

I’ve been diagnosed recently with PTSD due tone sexual trauma and have experienced an abusive relationship in the past. I know these impact how I approach relationships and trusting partners. I love him and we have some wonderful times together. Generally we get on really well. It’s just the pressure of the next big steps.

I don’t have many friends who have families yet, so I am surrounded by single friends. I haven’t really been in a position of a serious relationship/living with someone because of my past. This is all new to me and I feel very naive. Does anyone have any advice? Am I being unreasonable?

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TwelveAngryWhiskers · 02/05/2024 09:47

Oh gods, this reminds me of an ex who pressured me to have a baby. I said no, I need to focus on training and building a career (I was 25, he was much older... cringe). He said 'but me and my mother will look after it' Confused He was also adamant we would never get married, and I would never be named on any property we lived in even if I contributed to the deposit and mortgage because apparently my income would make me a 'liability'. I thank my lucky stars I never procreated with that horrible man.

YANBU. Run for the hills.

arethereanyleftatall · 02/05/2024 09:57

And man who 'isn't ready' for kids in late twenties/early mid thirties for children, with a partner of the same age, is telling you immediately the kind of person he is.

He is telling you that he doesn't care that this is the woman's fertile window, because he is entitled, selfish and arrogant to believe that he will just choose a younger model when he is ready.

So. If you want a man who has told you through his actions that he is entitled, selfish and arrogant, then crack on.

mitogoshi · 02/05/2024 10:13

He wants children which is fair enough, he wants them fairly soon, fair enough so it's quite ok for him so want to clarify if you are on the same page. BUT you need to be living together and you can counter with the simple fact that you want to be married before getting pregnant.

In all honesty it sounds like you aren't on the same page, time for soul searching

ByUmberViewer · 02/05/2024 10:22

He wants to impregnate you but he doesn't want to marry you????

Fuck that.

LBFseBrom · 02/05/2024 10:26

You are not unreasonable, you don't even live together, never mind marriage. Time to move on. You will find someone else and no doubt think seriously about having a child in a couple of years - so will your current boyfriend.

WombatStewForTea · 02/05/2024 10:27

I've got massive déjà vu. Have you posted about this before but a while back?

Walk away OP!

TheNoodlesIncident · 02/05/2024 10:33

You're having misgivings about this for a very, very good reason. Because what's in it for you? You get to be pregnant with a boyfriend's baby and he gets your money to build HIS house which he wants to install HIS mum in a neighbouring property. Your input is to provide him with a helpless infant you won't want to leave and a shedload of your cash.

You can tell he won't marry you, because he hasn't been keen for that to happen. When men want to marry, arrangements are made for it. So you can bet your house that he won't actually agree to marry you once the extremely tying infant is here. Dear me, no. Because he'd have to give you half of all the stuff if you decide to leave.

Always, ALWAYS find the best man you can to be father to your offspring. They don't deserve any less, and neither do you.

Heronwatcher · 02/05/2024 10:34

YANBU

If this is what you want tell him that the only way in which you will even consider trying for a baby OR investing in his property would be if you are married. It’s absolutely not unreasonable to have the legal protection of marriage before taking these steps- it’s basic common sense. I’d emphasise that the marriage itself doesn’t have to be a huge affair to pre-empt arguments about cost/ time/ family etc.

Of course you do realise that even if you are married it’s not obligatory to have the baby or invest in the pile of bricks! But sad to say I don’t think either will be on the cards anyway if you make your position clear.

Inkyblue123 · 02/05/2024 10:39

Go to therapy. You e got a lot shit going on here and it sound like this is just the Dave show - or whatever his name is. He is supposed to be your partner, equal in all aspects building a future together and let’s face it, you are purely incidental to his plans.

sandyhappypeople · 02/05/2024 10:42

I never understand men who would want to have a child with you, but absolutely don’t want to marry you? What the hell is that about, it seems that once you’ve provided offspring he can discard you whenever he feels like it.

if I was in a relationship like this I wouldn’t even entertain having children before marriage. But even then how do you know he’s only getting married to get you to do what he wants, at least you’d be afforded some protection if it all went south.

none of this is a basis for a happy future I’m afraid.

candycane222 · 02/05/2024 10:43

His timeline, his house to his plans, with his mother, his choice of childcare, his priorities. All he needs is your body (plus some of your money and all of your security) and his vision is complete.

Not sure I'd be buying in to this one...

user1471556818 · 02/05/2024 10:46

Never say this
Run not look back .
This is a bloody nightmare looking in to what your describing .
Please read all the advise what would you say to a friend .
Don't fall for this nonsense

AdoraBell · 02/05/2024 10:47

If he is adamant against marriage and the legal protection that would provide for his future child, and their mother, then pressuring you to provide a baby for him, it would be a firm No from me.

LauderSyme · 02/05/2024 10:50

YA definitely NBU.

The fact that he wants you to give so much in the relationship but is not prepared to fulfil your wishes by marrying you first, is very telling.

Creating a whole new human being and being responsible for them for the next 18 years is hardly a small ask.

On top of that he expects a big financial commitment from you regarding his house but is not prepared to legally commit to you.

Selfish, entitled, manipulative. Nope.

Happyinarcon · 02/05/2024 10:50

As someone who suffered with infertility I have a slightly different take on things. How would you feel if you were 38, decided that you absolutely wanted kids and then couldn’t conceive? If you don’t mind either way then there is no pressure and either split up now or work on the relationship. But don’t end up like me being 38 on IVF wondering what made me think getting pregnant was easy.

BluPeony · 02/05/2024 10:51

God, run for the hills. Do not give this man your time, money or eggs!! Moving in with his mother next door, are you joking??

I think you'll feel a lot better when you're out of the situation. When my partner and I decided to have a baby we didn't actually get cracking for about a year. It was all very exciting and not pressured at all.

gamerchick · 02/05/2024 10:53

Yeah don't move in with him. A horrible emotional time will follow.

Your instincts are telling you everything you need to know. He needs to free up to find someone else willing to give him his offspring and look after his mother when she needs it.

Spratun · 02/05/2024 10:54

Happyinarcon · 02/05/2024 10:50

As someone who suffered with infertility I have a slightly different take on things. How would you feel if you were 38, decided that you absolutely wanted kids and then couldn’t conceive? If you don’t mind either way then there is no pressure and either split up now or work on the relationship. But don’t end up like me being 38 on IVF wondering what made me think getting pregnant was easy.

I'd agree with this if OP was sure she was with the right man. But he is so not the right man. A million times not the right man

Coldupnorth87 · 02/05/2024 10:56

Not rtft but not a fucking chance!

If you feel under pressure living apart, it won't be better 24/7.

If he moves you in, you have a baby but aren't married, he can chuck you out and you will literally be left holding the baby.

WhySoManySocks · 02/05/2024 10:57

Not being ready at 34 might mean you’ll never be ready. Would you be ok with that? (You, not him.)

And do not have a child with this man without marrying him, and without having a financial part in the house you both live in.

Coldupnorth87 · 02/05/2024 10:58

Sounds like you should change your name to Buttercup, you're the brood mare in his grand plan.

HcbSS · 02/05/2024 11:29

No way should you be having a child with someone you have never lived with. You only learn who someone is once you have lived with them. And if you aren't married, more precarious for you legally if you split, especially if it's his house.

Trulyme · 02/05/2024 11:30

The person who doesn’t want a baby trumps the person who does.

But this should be the last of your worries.

This isn’t even a proper relationship!

Who discusses TTC without even living together first.

It’s time to move on from this relationship and both find partners more compatible.

Yellowhammer09 · 02/05/2024 11:43

We tried for a baby before moving in together or getting married. For us it has worked. However, our values were (and are) very much aligned.

Yours and your DP's are not. Time to break it off so you're not pressured, and he finds someone who wants children and is happy to do it on his marriage-less terms.

ClumsyMountainGoat · 02/05/2024 11:48

Coldupnorth87 · 02/05/2024 10:58

Sounds like you should change your name to Buttercup, you're the brood mare in his grand plan.

This. You are being shoehorned into a life you don't want and where you will have very little agency.