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Booked holiday with DC - ex claiming abduction - AIBU.

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SimplyMother · 29/04/2024 16:45

Hello all, a co-parent disagreement has arisen with me and ex. I’m worried as my partner is saying my actions may be seen as international abduction.

I told my ex that I’d like to take our child to a North American country for Christmas. I am born there but have been here since youth. It has been mentioned over the few years, and I reminded him if he’d be okay with it in Dec 23, for the next Christmas. As he was okay with it, I had booked the trip in January, and told him recently as it has now been paid off. The holiday is for 3 weeks.

He texted back, “shocked,” and claimed that he never knew that it would be for this year. I said he knew and he said he didn’t remember, and it was never seriously told to him in writing. He expressed discontent with the length, as it would take our then 4 year old out of school for 2 weeks - he claimed that he would’ve given the winter holiday if I asked but I don’t believe it. He also claimed that 3 weeks is too long for an announced country that is my “home country, that isn’t classed as very safe.” He’s saying that as it was booked behind his back, what I’m doing can be classed as international abduction.

He hasn’t threatened me, but says that he is not in agreement. And he says if I go, if there are repercussions with the school, I should deal with it alone. He says that when he asked last month to discuss Christmas 2024, I should’ve brought it up then - I didn’t as it wasn’t paid off yet.

Am I wrong - is it abduction? I plan to return, my life is here.

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SimplyMother · 01/05/2024 12:07

NeverDropYourMooncup · 01/05/2024 11:51

It's a single user portal attached to your email address, not a joint one.

Direct him to contact the local authority education department and keep saying no.

I’m sure made a dummy account, as he’s figured out that the email can be changed (sent proof).

He asked me if we could create a joint email account to use for DD in the future. He asked for the email to be changed to that joint email address.

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ButWhatAboutTheBees · 01/05/2024 12:24

It's not a way to control

Its a way for him to make sure you don't "forget" to tell him things again since you are clearly trying to keep information from him

AnxiousRabbit · 01/05/2024 12:29

SimplyMother · 01/05/2024 12:07

I’m sure made a dummy account, as he’s figured out that the email can be changed (sent proof).

He asked me if we could create a joint email account to use for DD in the future. He asked for the email to be changed to that joint email address.

Edited

Sorry...is this now a separate issue?
Who wants to appeal and why?
Are there grounds to appeal?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 01/05/2024 12:52

SimplyMother · 01/05/2024 12:07

I’m sure made a dummy account, as he’s figured out that the email can be changed (sent proof).

He asked me if we could create a joint email account to use for DD in the future. He asked for the email to be changed to that joint email address.

Edited

No, because it's a single user account. It's also used for things like free school meals applications where it is none of anybody else's business what your financial circumstances are. Or your national insurance number, phone or email address.

And if he thinks that a shared email address will work with school systems, he's wrong - it contravenes safeguarding (not just in terms of abuse reports, but needing two separate contacts in case of emergency), technically messes up a lot of apps and you end up thinking 'if I send this, who's actually going to read or respond?'

Direct him to the local authority where they can advise if they can set up a second parent account.

SimplyMother · 01/05/2024 13:16

NeverDropYourMooncup · 01/05/2024 12:52

No, because it's a single user account. It's also used for things like free school meals applications where it is none of anybody else's business what your financial circumstances are. Or your national insurance number, phone or email address.

And if he thinks that a shared email address will work with school systems, he's wrong - it contravenes safeguarding (not just in terms of abuse reports, but needing two separate contacts in case of emergency), technically messes up a lot of apps and you end up thinking 'if I send this, who's actually going to read or respond?'

Direct him to the local authority where they can advise if they can set up a second parent account.

Thank you but he already has all of this information. I don’t qualify for school meals and he knows this.

Im not sure if he intends this to always be the case, as he’s added “where applicable.”

I will, however, send him to the council.

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Chatonette · 02/05/2024 17:20

SimplyMother · 29/04/2024 17:58

No, I didn’t think this was an issue. Our DD has both our last names. Is it the same for your DC?

I took my two DC to the US on my own, aged 4 and 6 (we have the same last name). Nobody batted an eye at either US immigration or UK immigration. No written permission was taken.

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