To ask what you think when you see a white woman and a Muslim man?

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White non markedly Muslim or other wise woman and a Muslim man together, clearly in a relationship? What do you think?

as this is an anonymous forum, please do be honest.

after that thread about the woman marrying and arab, it strikes me that a lot of people have some quite strong opinions on this, and the convert to Islam threads on here also have been quite telling

disclaimer this is me, despite living in a very multicultural place, we do get looks here and there and boundless questions on our relationship that tbh aren’t very appropriate to ask a stranger whenever we meet new people. And if we go someplace less diverse the looks are more apparent.

Oh stop virtue signalling.

Wow the judgment.

How is that virtue signalling?
Term that's wheeled out for anything people can't respond to or dislikes it seems

A person’s name can be a clue, but even then, it isn’t a reliable clue.

True. I've known a few ginger white guys with names like Ademi Ngeboze and Rajinder Singh.

Do you mean a devout Muslim (of any nationality), or do you mean a man of Arab/ Pakistani/ Iranian/ etc origin?
beca there is quite a difference…. The former… I would be surprised if the woman was without a headscarf. The latter…. I wouldn’t really think anything at all.

I saw a couple the other day, they were in their late 50s and I thought how great it was. I don’t know why, I just liked the idea of integration. It made me feel hopeful.

I honestly wouldn't even probably notice or if I do it wouldn't even register as something to care about as I have enough things on my mind. Honestly op, I am oblivious to most people around me, just get on with my own stuff 😬

Totally agree with you.
Get to know people for who they are.

Without a hijab I wonder if she is a secret girlfriend. I was that girlfriend. I was revealed eventually, it was too difficult after that and we broke up.

To ask what you would think if you saw a
A priest, monk or rabbi with a woman, a a man and a woman, two women, two men, lgbtq with a partner the list of possibilities are endless and fantastic. Do you know what? none of them give a shit about what you think about them.

There are plenty of white Muslims.

What you mean is what would any of us think seeing a white woman with a non white man.

I would think nothing of it, doubt if I would even notice.

She is expressing her opinion to which she's entitled, and as the OP requested. You have a problem with that?

Islam is a religion, not a race.

I would honestly be really suprised if I saw a Muslim man dressed in full Islamic dress, clearly in a relationship (walking around holding hands?) with a woman in very clearly non-muslim dress (not wearing a Hijab, not dressed particularly modestly). Not judgemental, just... confused.
Other than that, I wouldn't exactly judge a white non-muslim woman dating a muslim. But in my experience, it would be unlikely to lead to marriage etc. So if it was a friend I would be advising caution of they were seeing it as a long term thing. I know a lot of South Asian men who had White British girlfriends (same age as them, nowt dodgy) but ultimately ended up marrying someone from a more similar background.

I'll bite - seeing as I have friends who follow the Muslim faith. And ironically, I seem to attract attention from a fair few Muslim men (in Britain) whom are more than aware I'm of no religious faith. Don't ask me why because I don't know why - I'm far from some beauty.

I'd not blink twice as I don't typically pay attention, but, if you asked me to think about it - I'd be surprised, honestly - for a couple of reasons. Bear with me.

For starters, I find it hard to imagine how I'd know they were in a relationship, unless I knew the people personally. Muslims, generally don't typically tend to display public affection in quite the same way that non-Muslim people (particularly of the West), do. Without PDA I'd struggle to automatically assume anybody was a couple, regardless what their religious faith was. I'd struggle to assume any woman that a Muslim man was in public with, was his partner, for just the same reason I suppose. It could be family, in laws, whatever, really. Just as it could be with any non-Muslim man.

Secondly, I understand it is haram for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim man - but, I assumed, perhaps wrongly (hopefully someone can answer this for me, as I've never thought to ask my friends this) this would be absolutely the same, vice versa. I would, have at one time, presumed an outwardly practising man, would want to enter in a relationship with a fellow Muslim, probably outwardly practising also, but I've also met plenty of couples where this is not the case, and the woman does not 'outwardly' practise, if that makes sense. So I'd no longer think that.

That's about as far as it would go, really. Because I'm also very aware of plenty of Muslim women in Britain who do not wear hijab. So it's all moot.

I guess that means that if I even thought about it, I'd automatically assume she was of Muslim faith too. Is it haram for a Muslim man to have a relationship with a non Muslim woman?

Wouldn't even notice it, but I know white women who have converted to Islam after marrying a Muslim and they have experienced what you describe.

It must be very annoying.

I’ve never had any odd looks when I was with my ex partner and he was a Muslim. Not that I ever noticed

🙄

It's nothing to do with me, wouldn't be my choice for many reasons.

Why have you resurrected this thread from April?

I wouldn’t think much of it.

If they were wearing very different clothes (e.g. him traditional for a religious day, her casual), I might glance twice as it’s unusual to see.

And I might be vaguely curious about one person seeming religious and the other not.

However if you were both wearing casual dress or both traditional dress I wouldn’t think much of it.

I can respond to whatever thread I like regardless of when it was put up.
Jog on if you don't like it

Old thread I know, but FWIW I am a white British woman with a brown Muslim immigrant partner. We have been married 30 years, and have two adult children. His family are very devoutly religious and are all lovely to me (I speak the language and respect their customs, but don't cover my head). My family, less so towards him, refused to come to the wedding, although have thawed somewhat in the last 20 years or so!

Reactions towards us are mostly not bothered, often people from both sides don't realise we are a couple especially if in a shop etc. Strangest is people's reaction to our kids, because they are brown most people don't realise I am their mother.

I was just curious, but your defensiveness and lack of actual answer to the question is very interesting.

Not defensive at all but who are you that you feel I need to give you an answer as to why I posted on an older thread I can post on any i choose it's none of your business at all so stay curious