To ask what you think when you see a white woman and a Muslim man?

[Weallknowfrogsgo]

White non markedly Muslim or other wise woman and a Muslim man together, clearly in a relationship? What do you think?

as this is an anonymous forum, please do be honest.

after that thread about the woman marrying and arab, it strikes me that a lot of people have some quite strong opinions on this, and the convert to Islam threads on here also have been quite telling

disclaimer this is me, despite living in a very multicultural place, we do get looks here and there and boundless questions on our relationship that tbh aren’t very appropriate to ask a stranger whenever we meet new people. And if we go someplace less diverse the looks are more apparent.

i don’t think I’d be able to tell what someone’s religion is by looking at them - in terms of race, it’s not something i really pay attention to when i see couples so i wouldn’t think anything in particular

I wouldn't even notice tbh

Yes that’s what I meant in addition to when you meet a couple who have traditionalist Muslim name (Abdullah say) and typically non Muslim name, Emily say

(disclaimer to say I know new Muslims don’t have to change their name so there’s a lot of Muslims with typically ‘non Muslim names’ and you can call a child any name with a good meaning it doesn’t have to be an Arabic name)

I didn't know that although I don't know much about them and what I do know isn't good.

My husband is brown with a white beard and sometimes no moustache. He has had abuse for being Muslim, he's Roman Catholic. I dislike the idea of putting these labels on people because they are frequently wrong.

Although imams carry out weddings, marriage is a civil institution in Islam. This is why non-Muslim women can have a nikkah and why divorce is permitted.

By contrast marriage is a sacrament in the Catholic Church and has sacramental qualities in Protestantism. You have to be baptised to be married in church. Consequently, an interfaith marriage cannot happen in a church.

I do know a woman from a Muslim family who had a church wedding in her husband’s parish church, but she converted to enable it to happen. Her father is very open minded and said he is happy as long as she believes in God and that both Christianity and Islam worship the same God. However, while immediate family attended the wedding, they did not tell extended family that it was a Christian ceremony. So, it does happen, but it is rare.

Well that is racist for a start.

Honestly I think, there's a white woman and a Muslim man. What sort of question is this?

Nothing...not my business to pass judgement on a couple in the street!

What do I think if a see a white European woman wearing hijab, etc? Disdain. I think she's a gullible idiot with a low self esteem. If I see her with a little girl in tow, also covered up head to to? I feel anger. And I'm very sorry for the poor child. No little girl deserves this. Being indoctrinated from birth and treated as a second class citizen by her own family.

How would you be able to tell?!

So only muslims can be called Ibrahim? And only non-muslims can be Polly? Okaaaaaay.

Of course not but painting with a very broad brush they are typically Muslim and non Muslim names,

of course there’s Arab Christians called ibraheem and maybe a revert called polly

Obviously I disagree but at least you’ve been honest

My white thoroughly British wife has been married to me, a muslim, for 40 + years. If you are both genuinely happy, ignore the ignorant and hateful people.

They would probably say something similar for any interracial marriage.

@Weallknowfrogsgo I can assure you I'm not a gullible idiot. and my daughters aren't treated as second class citizens by any of our family. What a strange thing to assume!

Erm, I didn’t say that. I’m a revert Muslim myself that was another poster

I wouldn’t have any feelings. It’s none of my business and it just isn’t necessary to pass any judgment

Sorry @Weallknowfrogsgo I @ the wrong person

I lived and worked in a very multi-cultural part of London and I agree that some Muslims are identifiable as Muslim. It was also very common to see couples with different ethnicities and backgrounds so it wasn’t something I particularly noticed.

To answer OP’s question honestly - sometimes when I saw what I perceived to be a non-Muslim born woman with a Muslim man I would wonder how much life in a religion that seems quite paternalistic worried her. And I would hope she was happy. Particularly if the lady was wearing traditional Muslim dress as I’d hope this was her choice.

I wouldn't think anything OP.

I have found the level of Islamophobia on the boards this week shocking.
I'm white. I live in London. I know there's a reason many people of colour don't want to live elsewhere. Some of our country is so ignorant & backwards.
I guess it's why we brexited hey.

Lolz at suspicious medieval peasants 😂

"But a Muslim woman wouldn’t marry a non Muslim would she"

Are you serious OP?

Where do you live?

UK where do you live?

a Muslim woman can’t Marry (islamically) a non Muslim. She’s free to have a civil marriage of course but islamically the marriage isn’t recognised

How does one woman ‘perceive’ whether another woman is born into an Islamic family? Putting clothes aside (and remembering that many Muslim women dress no differently from you: my Muslim grandmother never even wore a headscarf except for prayers, being from a country that was keen to maintain a secular state, and her daughters sported miniskirts and beehives in the 1960s) how can you look at a woman and decide that she is ‘likely to have been born Muslim?’

If it is down to skin colour, there are white Muslims all over the place. Many brown-skinned women are Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh, Jewish, or Christian. Many black women are Christian. Many people whom you might identify visually as east or southeast Asian are also Muslims, Christians, or other faiths.

And many, no doubt, are athiest, or at least agnostic.

A person’s name can be a clue, but even then, it isn’t a reliable clue.