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Grandma choosing dog over her grandchild

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If123 · 28/04/2024 23:09

I just need to get a feel if I’m being unreasonable or not. So my daughter is the first grandchild. I have given up my job to look after her as my flexible working request was denied. I have an interview for a really great part time job which would fit around my Fiancés job and mean that we won’t have to pay childcare. My Fiancé is on his stag do which we knew when I found out the interview date. I asked my mum with 2 and a half weeks notice to watch my daughter to allow me to go to the interview. She said this was fine and wouldn’t be a problem. Fast forward to the evening before the interview she let me know at 10pm that she needs to watch my sisters dog so now won’t be able to watch my DD. She basically gave me the option of bringing the dog with her to my house (I’m not sure this was a real option because the dog shreds things and is not trained and I have a lot of wedding bits and pieces about because we are due to get married in June) or for me to drive and pick her up to drop her off at my sisters house (25 mins away) to have to go back for her at the end of the day- I wasn’t sure on this either because of the amount of time it will take me to drive there and back and get to the interview would be cutting it very fine. I feel like she’s prioritising the dog over my child. Am I being unreasonable if I pull her up on it and explain how disappointed I am to be let down last second? I’m considering not going to the interview now because of all the stress it’s causing. If I had been given notice I could have sorted out a different arrangement. Feeling so gutted at the idea that my daughter is second in line to a dog in her own grandmas mind. It completely breaks my heart to think that could be the case.

OP posts:
VeryHappyBunny · 01/05/2024 15:39

Kinshipug · 01/05/2024 14:43

Love all the comments from people who clearly haven't been near a 6 month in this century. They sleep all the time and hardly need any supervision? Good grief.

Edited

Why? Are they running amok around the house. I don't think the behaviour of 6 month old babies has changed much in thousands of years. They can't sit up on their own, so are hardly going to cause much trouble. They can just about lift their heads if placed on their stomachs. Rolling/crawling and shuffling are still about 2-3 months away at the earliest. Or maybe you have a super baby.

Kinshipug · 01/05/2024 15:59

VeryHappyBunny · 01/05/2024 15:39

Why? Are they running amok around the house. I don't think the behaviour of 6 month old babies has changed much in thousands of years. They can't sit up on their own, so are hardly going to cause much trouble. They can just about lift their heads if placed on their stomachs. Rolling/crawling and shuffling are still about 2-3 months away at the earliest. Or maybe you have a super baby.

Most babies sit at 6 months, plenty are crawling (all 3 of mine crawled by 6 months). And they certainly need supervision for the 8+ hours a day they are awake.
Perhaps the lack of supervision and engagement held your babies back?

Nanny0gg · 01/05/2024 16:04

OnTheRoll · 29/04/2024 19:19

Gosh, OP....
I sympathise but really - "I was worried the entire time about what would be unfolding at home". What exactly would be unfolding at home that would warrant thinking about during a job interview for a perfect job? Your baby is 6 months old and would be safely in her own usual crib/bed.
You seriously need to get yourself together, it would do you no favours long term to react so strongly to such mundane situations.
Hope the interview went better than you thought and you will get the job!

My 6 month old babies would have been crawling and very unhappy to be kept in their cots.

So one of them, plus an untrained dog, what could there possibly be to worry about?

@If123 I don't think your mother or sister add anything meaningful to your family I'm afraid

And they will never prioritise you

marzipanlover81 · 01/05/2024 16:07

VeryHappyBunny · 01/05/2024 15:39

Why? Are they running amok around the house. I don't think the behaviour of 6 month old babies has changed much in thousands of years. They can't sit up on their own, so are hardly going to cause much trouble. They can just about lift their heads if placed on their stomachs. Rolling/crawling and shuffling are still about 2-3 months away at the earliest. Or maybe you have a super baby.

you don’t have children
you are at least in your sixties

correct?

Nanny0gg · 01/05/2024 16:10

marzipanlover81 · 01/05/2024 16:07

you don’t have children
you are at least in your sixties

correct?

Ahem.

I am in my 70s. Admittedly I have children and grandchildren and when mine were tiny they certainly sat before 6 months but there was no need for the ageism

Thistlewoman · 01/05/2024 16:51

VeryHappyBunny · 01/05/2024 13:22

I don't understand why this woman is making her mother choose between her and her baby or the sister and her dog. A 6 month old baby hardly needs much supervision and will be asleep for most of the time anyway. Surely the baby's parents don't spend every hour of every day watching it. So baby could be in bedroom asleep (with monitor) and grandma can spend time with dog. I think obstacles are being thrown along the way just for the sake of it.

It will be a different matter when the child starts crawling and toddling, but at 6 months old babies are rather boring and don't do much other than sleep, eat, cry, piddle and poo.

I am a great dog lover, but no dog - no matter how well trained, or not - should be left alone with babies or young children. So regardless of who is doing the supervising they should always be separated when there is no adult around. Children and animals in general are not a good mix. Babies smell very different from what they are used to, they make weird noises and dogs in particular are curious about them. Let them have a sniff and get used to this new thing while adults are there. The worst thing you can do is snatch baby away as soon as the dog appears. As soon as the novelty wears off the dog will generally go off and do its own thing. If baby is going to sister's house do not relegate dog to kitchen/garden etc. It is the dog's home and the baby is the interloper so why should a member of the household be banished because of a visitor, it is a sure fire way of causing a rift between them.

Is the dog really as badly behaved as is made out? or does this woman just not like dogs?

Why would you choose to get married when you have a 6 month old baby to look after?

What is the baby doing on the wedding day?

The whole thing sounds as if these people are both reckless and feckless and don't put a lot of thought into what they are doing. If it were me I would have either postponed the wedding for a few years (see if the relationship lasts that long) or cancel it altogether. If the father/prospective husband is so selfish to go away for a weeks holiday with his mates this close to the wedding day, will he change once he is married?

P.S. I hope you got to your interview and that everything went okay.

Totally this-at last a post with some common sense and no childish tit-for-tat recriminations!

VeryHappyBunny · 01/05/2024 17:31

Kinshipug · 01/05/2024 15:59

Most babies sit at 6 months, plenty are crawling (all 3 of mine crawled by 6 months). And they certainly need supervision for the 8+ hours a day they are awake.
Perhaps the lack of supervision and engagement held your babies back?

Well, if this baby is crawling around (though I suspect not), having the house covered in wedding "stuff" is hardly a safe environment for it.

Why do people insist on pushing their children into achievements before they are ready. All babies and toddlers develop at their own speed. It is no indication of future success or failure.

WitcheryDivine · 01/05/2024 17:37

Loving this idea of 6 month olds being asleep all the time and essentially leaveable to their own devices! Can’t wait for mine to become so tractable and quiet in the next few weeks 😆 (suspect people are getting confused with 6 WEEK olds).

Kinshipug · 01/05/2024 17:57

If 6 month olds could be left sleeping in cots all day nursery would be a bargain! Ha I wish.

marzipanlover81 · 01/05/2024 18:16

Nanny0gg · 01/05/2024 16:10

Ahem.

I am in my 70s. Admittedly I have children and grandchildren and when mine were tiny they certainly sat before 6 months but there was no need for the ageism

So am i also being discriminatory again child free people here too

🙄

Thistlewoman · 01/05/2024 18:54

marzipanlover81 · 01/05/2024 16:07

you don’t have children
you are at least in your sixties

correct?

That sounds totally judgemental and very ageist. Are you suggesting that a women in her sixties is not allowed an opinion-or is wrong-even if she may have been a grandma herself? (You make so many assumptions-imagine someone doing that about you!) You give younger women a bad name with dismissive, arrogant comments like that. You don't speak for me.

marzipanlover81 · 01/05/2024 18:58

Thistlewoman · 01/05/2024 18:54

That sounds totally judgemental and very ageist. Are you suggesting that a women in her sixties is not allowed an opinion-or is wrong-even if she may have been a grandma herself? (You make so many assumptions-imagine someone doing that about you!) You give younger women a bad name with dismissive, arrogant comments like that. You don't speak for me.

What i’m “imagining”

is that someone with that view either has no or very limited experience of a 6 month old ie child free

or

does have children but with the a long passage of time has perhaps forgotten the reality of a 6 month old

but by all means seek out shadows where there are none and get yourself in a flap 😆

marzipanlover81 · 01/05/2024 19:01

Thistlewoman · 01/05/2024 18:54

That sounds totally judgemental and very ageist. Are you suggesting that a women in her sixties is not allowed an opinion-or is wrong-even if she may have been a grandma herself? (You make so many assumptions-imagine someone doing that about you!) You give younger women a bad name with dismissive, arrogant comments like that. You don't speak for me.

oh i love that you posted this recently

Thistlewoman · 27/02/2024 19:43
Unfortunately I think you are right. The 'mental health' card seems to be used when some young people -and some of those in their 20s too- just simply dont want to do something and are looking for an excuse. Being challenged and put under some stress is in fact good for developing healthy mental resilience. And as for demands to remove anything from sight/hearing/activity because it causes them offence...!! FFS No one has the right not to be offended (except where actual law is broken) nor demand that because they are offended that they have the right to cancel/silence the offending view.

😆

daliesque · 01/05/2024 20:14

is that someone with that view either has no or very limited experience of a 6 month old ie child free

Well, unless someone works in early years, then I'm guessing even parents have a li,item experience of 6 month olds as they only know theirs, plus the ones in their circle of friends maybe?

As a childfree woman in my 50's, and like all child free women, we will have the sense to understand that babies are individuals and therefore all develop at different rates.

Babyboomtastic · 01/05/2024 20:30

VeryHappyBunny · 01/05/2024 15:39

Why? Are they running amok around the house. I don't think the behaviour of 6 month old babies has changed much in thousands of years. They can't sit up on their own, so are hardly going to cause much trouble. They can just about lift their heads if placed on their stomachs. Rolling/crawling and shuffling are still about 2-3 months away at the earliest. Or maybe you have a super baby.

😂😂😂😂

My first day independently at 4m, crawled, pulled up and cruised at 6m and walked at 9m.
Clearly it was my pushy parenting or something 😂

Neurodiversitydoctor · 02/05/2024 05:28

Why do people insist on pushing their children into achievements before they are ready. All babies and toddlers develop at their own speed. It is no indication of future success or failure.

As some one who asseses children's development for a living I have to disagree with this. Early development is highly correlated with future attainment.

and babies should be stimulated pushed by their care givers.

marzipanlover81 · 02/05/2024 07:56

daliesque · 01/05/2024 20:14

is that someone with that view either has no or very limited experience of a 6 month old ie child free

Well, unless someone works in early years, then I'm guessing even parents have a li,item experience of 6 month olds as they only know theirs, plus the ones in their circle of friends maybe?

As a childfree woman in my 50's, and like all child free women, we will have the sense to understand that babies are individuals and therefore all develop at different rates.

6 months olds do develop at different rates
but
the breadth of that difference is actually really very narrow for the vast majority of 6 month olds

Welshphoenix · 02/05/2024 10:59

Babyboomtastic · 01/05/2024 20:30

😂😂😂😂

My first day independently at 4m, crawled, pulled up and cruised at 6m and walked at 9m.
Clearly it was my pushy parenting or something 😂

This made me laugh, all babies are different my daughter was crawling before she was 4 months old biggest shock I ever had was to find her under the cupboard at the back of the room when she first found she could move, Sat up the with no issues by 5 months and was walking by the time she was 8 .5 months old . Each child is thank fully different. Clearly we are both pushy parents lol

Mayana1 · 02/05/2024 20:42

croydon15 · 30/04/2024 20:45

It's a shitty thing to do, you asked first she should be committed to you, it's an interview which is obviously important to you l would reassess any dealings with her. The dog should come second.

I would actually say - it doesn't even matter who asked first. Even if her sister would. She needed mom to take care of her daughter while she was going for the interview. That was far more important than a dog sitting.

Mayana1 · 02/05/2024 20:44

Neurodiversitydoctor · 02/05/2024 05:28

Why do people insist on pushing their children into achievements before they are ready. All babies and toddlers develop at their own speed. It is no indication of future success or failure.

As some one who asseses children's development for a living I have to disagree with this. Early development is highly correlated with future attainment.

and babies should be stimulated pushed by their care givers.

I agree. That's why there are toddlers in UK who doesn't speak at the age of 3, still being in a buggy, still having dummies and still having teat bottles. Because parents doesn't bother to push them (or themselves to parenting).

Mayana1 · 02/05/2024 20:57

aloris · 29/04/2024 17:49

I know right?

How very dare you expect that mom should stand by her commitment to you, when My Wants should take precedence. I should be able to get her to renege on whatever arrangements she makes with you, and I should be able to do it at the last minute and mess up your plans. You need to be very careful to be my doormat or else I won't show up for your special day.

Emotional manipulation. Ugh.

What a charming sister, isn't she?
I would tell her, "You know honey, it's up to you. You can come if you wish, but you better behave or you will have to leave involuntarily. And if you choose not to come, that's all fine by me as well."
I bet she would come. (not that she eoyld be wanted there)

Mayana1 · 02/05/2024 21:04

If123 · 29/04/2024 19:06

Update:

I picked up grandma and dog and brought them to my house. She was in a mood of course that I had a made a fuss. First thing dog does is jump up on the side and eat a bread roll 😫 anyway after trying to get presentable for the interview while hearing yelling at the dog from downstairs I was feeling quite concerned at the idea of leaving for the interview. Ended up leaving late and being in a rush. Interview does not go that well unsurprisingly as I was worried the entire time about what would be unfolding at home. Get back and my mum complains that daughter has had an explosive poo (like she has done it to be inconvenient). I then suggest maybe it’s time for the dog to be returned home to let me sort the baby out and my mum gets very defensive about the dog and me rushing them out and threw my house keys in my face in front of the baby which of course causes tears. I am some done with it all I asked her to apologise and said I didn’t want that sort of example for my child. She refused to apologise. It’s left me thinking maybe she doesn’t deserve a relationship with her grandchild. I have no idea how I go forward from here. I would be sad to have to ask her not to come to my wedding but I really can’t have a repeat of this or be let down last minute on my wedding day. What a total nightmare. I really don’t want my little one being excited to see her in the future and being let down like how she has treated me.

Your mom behaves like a teen and like she is your daughter, not the opposite. I'm sorry to say that, but hoping you exclude her out of the wedding. And as well a vicious Cinderella's sister.

EmmyA87 · 02/05/2024 21:25

My mum is the same. If I ask if any of my 3 children can spend the night-for whatever reason and it’s about once in every 5 years-she’ll have to make sure my younger siblings (young adults now) are home too so she’s basically not looking after them, my siblings are. My eldest called her not long ago and asked her to come round to eat with us, I had something she needed to collect from me anyway. She turned up with her dog, knowing I don’t allow the dog in my home. So she parked up, collected what she wanted then left. It was very disheartening. I’d be asking why would she agree to have the dog if she knew you needed her the next day? And running around after everyone on the day of an interview is not acceptable.

VeryHappyBunny · 02/05/2024 23:04

TealSapphire · 01/05/2024 05:47

I have never heard of or come across a dog that can't be left alone at all. It must have serious behavioural issues or not be trained in any way. Seriously, ditching your baby granddaughter for a bloody dog!!

The dog may be a rescue and has serious abandonment problems. Some dogs that have been abused and then get adopted by good people, i.e. someone who doesn't kick or beat them, lock them out of the house etc fixate on those people and get seriously stressed if left for any length of time. Even going out of the room can cause problems. You don't know how long the sister has had the dog. So don't make judgements against a dog that you know nothing about. Whatever the dog's problems they will have been caused by people.

EdgarAllenRaven · 03/05/2024 00:14

Just let her bring the dog over! Put the wedding things high up where dog cannot reach them, or only allow dog in garden.
DO NOT cancel the interview, go!