"Migrants going to Ireland," states Rishi Sunak PM

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AIBU to believe this is fake news, hype at best??

Indeed, some may be going to "Ireland,! and may have been doing so
for the last two years anyway.s or so.

Therefore, what was the number of migrants/boat people that went to Ireland from Jan 1st and Dec 31st in 2022 and the year ending 2023??

As I've said many times, I don't trust any politician or political party for that matter as they are on the whole, in it for themselves.

Message to Rishi Sunak, PM - Please give us the numbers. (I bet you it is no different to what was happening previously)

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-says-migrants-going-to-ireland-shows-rwanda-scheme-is-working-as-a-deterrent-13123815#:~:text=Migrants%20travelling%20to%20Ireland%20after,was%20%22exporting%20the%20problem%22.

Please see up thread.

I am civil servant with friends working for Ipo, (DoJ) I used to work for the DSP. I see what's happening. Another x colleague is working for DCEDIY finding hotel accommodation for migrants. There are migrants in tents outside my office. Is that enough? I probably couldn't sleep if I knew more.

Ireland wants to be the good kids in EU class and keeps committing to taking more migrants.

If we are talking southern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland , it's really nothing to do with the UK. I'm sure they didn't care about immigrants going to the UK.

I totally agree.

As a south Asain (my parents and us arrived in England in the very early 60's)
The "right" wing do not need an excuse to stir up racial hatred/division

The longer this political fiasco re boats/send to Rawda goes on the worse it will become. Importantly, even if the scheme goes ahead, I bet you no more than a couple of hundred will be deported and some of them may find themselves back here

For immigrants from non EU nations that want to settle/work in England, it costs them thousands for visa applications and citizenships and 5 years and lots of money for citizenship and rightly so they have to support themselves. This is unlike those who come via boat routes

This Tory government is aiding the uprising rise in right-wing extremist groups like that of the 70's

Mr Sunak aka PM must concentrate on what matters to those in England, EG, NHS, much shorter waiting lists, reduce taxes, better roads, better schools, rewarding those that work hard, etc, etc rather than try to bring life into a crap idea that is overpriced and worthless and useless all in the name of politics to make the Tories look good

The Labour clowns are no better as the boats need to stop and what do they propose, that's right, fuck all.

If I was your PM - I'd take the attitude the French take, no ifs, no buts, and deal with the problem in hand by making new rules overnight

Re boar people, the majority are genuine refugees and that can't be argued with. The fact remains that these refugees and financial refugees are already in a so-called safe country as all come via the EU and therefore must not be allowed to stay in England.

As I've said many times, the politicians are in it for themselves and if you cant see that, then there is no hope for you.

I hate to break it to you, but the vast majority of politicians have always been in it for themselves to some extent. That's life. Some are worse than others. But it's generally par for the course.

Thus being the ENTIRE point of the thread and the entire point of all the news recently. The point being cos they cant get into the UK they are coming to us instead.

So you have read my post and stated what I have been posting for a while. Incredible.

Yeah. Right.

Who told you "they can't get into the UK"?? Do you not have Google and watch BBC/Sky/IT news etc??? We are seeing boat loads every day when the weathers calm

did a bit more research re Ireland and our governments advice is and I just hope the boat people don't get wind of this

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/ireland/safety-and-security

I sincerely hope you're not in charge of the welcoming committee for the poor souls who are risking their lives in boats to get into your country. I'd also love to know your familial background and whether any of your family have ever needed to emigrate.

Ireland is a wealthy, welcoming country we have been told for decades now. This is a nice chance for them to live up to their reputation

This is very funny. Living under a fucking rock indeed.

I don't have strong views either way, but I feel I must really be missing something here.

So when migrants go to France or Italy - safe, wealthy, prosperous countries; but then prefer to continue on and make their way to the UK - also a safe, wealthy, prosperous country, the UK is disgraceful for not wanting them - and the UK is at fault.

But when migrants come to the UK, but then prefer to continue on and make their way to the RoI - also a safe, wealthy, prosperous country, the UK is still disgraceful, because Ireland also don't want them - and the UK is still at fault?

Indeed. They are so progressive now compared to the backward UK (the decades of virtual theocracy having been conveniently erased) - surely they must be delighted with the opportunity to demonstrate this.

Hear, hear as I too hear almost on every tv advert for Ireland that they are a loving and welcoming country. Therefore, why is their stupid government making threats to send back people some of whom have travelled thousands of miles from their motherlands to be I a loving, caring, welcoming safe country?

To the people of Ireland, stand up and be counted and tell your stupid government that you are welcoming boat people with open arms. However, please ignore the youtube videos that are not as welcoming

Report from the Irish Times of 22/04:
A total of 6,069 people sought asylum between January 1st and April 12th, an increase of almost 80 per cent on numbers from the comparable period for 2023. A third of all applicants, 2,053, are citizens of one country, Nigeria.

It was this report that led to the hand wringing of Irish politicians all last week, to which Sunak responded this weekend.

Full report:
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/04/22/migration-system-may-be-tightened-over-spike-in-international-protection-applicants/

Rishi says many things. Doesn't mean I have to listen to them.

Exactly. And it’s not like they don’t have room. They have a population of about 5 million, compared to our 70 million. What’s the problem exactly?

Every country will have to deal with asylum seekers as they see fit.

The UK has chosen the Rwanda policy.

Ireland, France and any other country will have to make their own decision over what to do.

I’m not sure about the emergency law. Why can they but other EU countries not do the same?

The emergency law will not work. Ireland will need an agreement with the UK as a third country and it is very unlikely to get one.

The key thing is that NI/ROI border is soft. Even if Ireland try to return migrants reentry will be swift.

I imagine what will happen is that quietly Ireland will uptick the number of refusals and returns but to France. The cycle will repeat again

It's because the UK is racist, while monocultural tax haven Ireland is just doing what needs to be done.

Well looks like the EU is quite keen on sending people to a third country, the Europeans Peoples Party leader has expressed support for the idea so Ireland can probably avail itself of that soon enough 🙄.

The thing is the EU doesn’t have a return agreement with the UK, they refused one so it may be difficult legally for Ireland to send them back to the UK as the migrants are now on EU soil.

It’s such an utter mess.

Does Ireland not have a racism problem then?