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"Migrants going to Ireland," states Rishi Sunak PM

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 17:05

AIBU to believe this is fake news, hype at best??

Indeed, some may be going to "Ireland,! and may have been doing so
for the last two years anyway.s or so.

Therefore, what was the number of migrants/boat people that went to Ireland from Jan 1st and Dec 31st in 2022 and the year ending 2023??

As I've said many times, I don't trust any politician or political party for that matter as they are on the whole, in it for themselves.

Message to Rishi Sunak, PM - Please give us the numbers. (I bet you it is no different to what was happening previously)

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-says-migrants-going-to-ireland-shows-rwanda-scheme-is-working-as-a-deterrent-13123815#:~:text=Migrants%20travelling%20to%20Ireland%20after,was%20%22exporting%20the%20problem%22.

Rishi Sunak says migrants going to Ireland shows Rwanda scheme is working as a deterrent

Ireland's deputy prime minister has said migrants who arrived in the UK on small boats are crossing from Northern Ireland to the Republic. Speaking to Sky's Trevor Phillips, Rishi Sunak says that it shows the deterrent is working.

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-says-migrants-going-to-ireland-shows-rwanda-scheme-is-working-as-a-deterrent-13123815#:~:text=Migrants%20travelling%20to%20Ireland%20after,was%20%22exporting%20the%20problem%22.

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DanielGault · 28/04/2024 17:58

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 17:54

Oh do not start me on that. One day Leo, then Micheal then the walking corpse. We dont make it easy for ourselves but yes I get you. I just think that Britain will not leave us alone till they get some kind of border which they failed to get in brexit.

You'd wonder though, it feels like nobody wants the North sometimes. It's a poisoned chalice in a way. Too much hassle for either side. Leave them to their own devices etc. I wonder what the future holds.

GrumpyPanda · 28/04/2024 18:00

Solgrass · 28/04/2024 17:24

France won’t take them back because we are no longer part of the EU.

Ireland is, so arrangements can be made with the EU regarding where to place people.

Are you being deliberately disingenuous or just very, very ignorant? Under the Dublin regulation, migrant claims are to be processed by the country in which they first entered the Union (which incidentally will only in the rarest of cases happen to be France.) Obviously this doesn't apply to secondary migration from the UK.

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 18:00

romdowa · 28/04/2024 17:56

I don't think Simon Harris is a gay man of Indian descent?

That's been cleared up for me thanks, see above.

Solgrass · 28/04/2024 18:41

GrumpyPanda · 28/04/2024 18:00

Are you being deliberately disingenuous or just very, very ignorant? Under the Dublin regulation, migrant claims are to be processed by the country in which they first entered the Union (which incidentally will only in the rarest of cases happen to be France.) Obviously this doesn't apply to secondary migration from the UK.

Go read again before you comment

Solgrass · 28/04/2024 18:49

Irish courts have deemed that Britain is no longer classes as a safe haven. Therefore people are crossing to border to register in Ireland.

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 19:58

@Solgrass yes but that aside it now seems that this is being subcontracted out to Ireland to deal with.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 28/04/2024 20:03

I am Irish and there is loads of people from outside the eu now and lots coming in from u.k. to Northern Ireland YES and loads coming in on planes with passports and then supposedly lose them on the plane. Should not be allowed off the plane without said passport and sent back to where they came from. Cannot house our own and we have taken in vast numbers and so many from Ukraine and really looked after them but people are pissed off now with our so called open borders and government doing sweet fuck all. Closing nursing homes to accommodate immigrants. Has to stop now as we are a small country and we have more than done our bit. Boats have to be stopped before they leave to come to all our shores.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 28/04/2024 20:06

Also why is it only young males in their 20's/30's leaving their supposedly unsafe countries, the women are more in danger there than anyone and loads claiming to be gay and saying they will be persecuted if they go back. It has just got out of control and people are fed up and angry. Cannot open your mouth here or you get called far right.

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 20:12

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 28/04/2024 20:03

I am Irish and there is loads of people from outside the eu now and lots coming in from u.k. to Northern Ireland YES and loads coming in on planes with passports and then supposedly lose them on the plane. Should not be allowed off the plane without said passport and sent back to where they came from. Cannot house our own and we have taken in vast numbers and so many from Ukraine and really looked after them but people are pissed off now with our so called open borders and government doing sweet fuck all. Closing nursing homes to accommodate immigrants. Has to stop now as we are a small country and we have more than done our bit. Boats have to be stopped before they leave to come to all our shores.

'cannot house our own' has been going on for decades. There are definitely problems with our immigration policy, but lack of social housing here is due to failure by multiple governments to provide for it. It's not immigrants. The economy wouldn't be what it is without immigrants. The health system woi collapse overnight without them. 'our own' is a load of me bollix in that regard.

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 20:17

@BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants to get in get visas and jobs and bring their families over is all i assume.

@DanielGault imigrants that can come here and work etc yes but these are illegal and can not work or provide for themselves either. Then we have the sham of direct provision. I am not now and never have been a whole 'help our own first' because sometimes 'our own' want to benefit from the state but the housing crisis is ridiculous here. Our hotels are now taken over by refugees from Ukraine which is costing towns and villages money because it takes away from tourism. I fully get a lot of immigrants over the years have taken on jobs Irish people will not do but the housing crisis is because we have a care of duty to house people coming here and we really cannot house Irish people.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 28/04/2024 20:18

Yes of course it is the useless government but people are coming in from so called safe countries and has been going on for years. Sorry have to disagree with what you have said and everyone of us entitled to our opinion. Am very open minded as lived London for years and loved the mix of nationalities but there is no proper control here. No facilities, doctors, schools etc, housing is crap. Ireland seen as the soft touch now since O'Gorman posted his document in loads of different languages telling everyone Ireland is open and housing for all. People are fed up now with it all.

W0rkerBee · 28/04/2024 20:22

I believe it. I'm Irish. Things are ridiculous here.

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 20:24

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 20:17

@BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants to get in get visas and jobs and bring their families over is all i assume.

@DanielGault imigrants that can come here and work etc yes but these are illegal and can not work or provide for themselves either. Then we have the sham of direct provision. I am not now and never have been a whole 'help our own first' because sometimes 'our own' want to benefit from the state but the housing crisis is ridiculous here. Our hotels are now taken over by refugees from Ukraine which is costing towns and villages money because it takes away from tourism. I fully get a lot of immigrants over the years have taken on jobs Irish people will not do but the housing crisis is because we have a care of duty to house people coming here and we really cannot house Irish people.

But there's no way they could house Irish people in those hotels. Long term at least. I just think immigrants are getting the blame for government inaction and it really grinds my gears. There was so much money sloshing around and they did nothing with it. I'm an 'almost victim ' of a need for social housing and every day I wake up thankful that I managed to avoid it.

W0rkerBee · 28/04/2024 20:26

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 28/04/2024 20:06

Also why is it only young males in their 20's/30's leaving their supposedly unsafe countries, the women are more in danger there than anyone and loads claiming to be gay and saying they will be persecuted if they go back. It has just got out of control and people are fed up and angry. Cannot open your mouth here or you get called far right.

I didnt watch the LLS on friday, but Leo has moved on from calling us far right if we want a cap on migrants, now he's calling us racists.

It's so infuriating..

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 20:27

W0rkerBee · 28/04/2024 20:26

I didnt watch the LLS on friday, but Leo has moved on from calling us far right if we want a cap on migrants, now he's calling us racists.

It's so infuriating..

He is dead inside. I know two people from two different social circles who know him, and neither has a good word to say.

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 20:28

Ireland is seen now as the overflow because of brexit!

@DanielGault well what else can they do? And they have housed Irish people in the hotels. No choice. Nobody is blaming immigrants. People are blaming the government and the fact we have rolled over for so long and that has been to our own detriment but now it is worse because of the UK so we have to take measures.

W0rkerBee · 28/04/2024 20:30

I think Leo is a narcissist. He has his version of reality, his vision, and anybody who wants to give feedback is attacked with labels.
I've never voted sinn fein but Leo and Micheál condemn sinn fein for populism.
Does populism mean listening to the electorate and trying to deliver. That's populism, and it's bad apparently. 🤨😐

AgnesX · 28/04/2024 20:32

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 17:46

Also yis can feck off thinking we are going to scratch your back after all ye have put us through.

😁

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 20:34

Psychoticbreak · 28/04/2024 20:28

Ireland is seen now as the overflow because of brexit!

@DanielGault well what else can they do? And they have housed Irish people in the hotels. No choice. Nobody is blaming immigrants. People are blaming the government and the fact we have rolled over for so long and that has been to our own detriment but now it is worse because of the UK so we have to take measures.

There are plenty of people blaming the immigrants! There are also plenty just crying out for facilities themselves without an anti immigration agenda. But the longer they mismanage this, the further right we'll go, out of pure frustration. Either way, it's not a direction we want to be going in.

roarrfeckingroar · 28/04/2024 20:36

The French police should take a large knife to every boat they find (obviously in shallow water / before anyone gets I )

W0rkerBee · 28/04/2024 20:36

Solgrass · 28/04/2024 18:49

Irish courts have deemed that Britain is no longer classes as a safe haven. Therefore people are crossing to border to register in Ireland.

That really does beggar belief. Wtf?

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 20:43

W0rkerBee · 28/04/2024 20:22

I believe it. I'm Irish. Things are ridiculous here.

Where about is you in Ireland - any news stories to back up your comments, please?

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DanielGault · 28/04/2024 20:44

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 20:43

Where about is you in Ireland - any news stories to back up your comments, please?

You're not great on sources yourself bud 🤔

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/04/2024 20:45

roarrfeckingroar · 28/04/2024 20:36

The French police should take a large knife to every boat they find (obviously in shallow water / before anyone gets I )

Stop being hideously ridiculous. If the "French police" was able to get to the dingy's, it would be on land and no need, no need whatsoever, "to take a knife to every boat..."

The French cops just take the boat off them, simples.

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FearMe · 28/04/2024 20:48

DanielGault · 28/04/2024 17:50

I adore the fact that OP has just been looking up Ireland's demographics and deigns to 'inform' us all of her exciting findings. Like Ireland is some some sort of mythical, parallel universe. She must live under a fucking rock. Our Taoiseach is a gay man of Indian descent for example. We are a nation of people who emigrated and we have had a lot of immigrants in the last 20 years. Not without it's problems but on the whole has been a huge benefit for the country.

Umm he resigned, did you not hear?