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To ask your opinion on the ear biting incident at the Snooker Championship?

209 replies

buttonchocolate · 26/04/2024 22:28

A male was caught on camera whispering to a small boy and then biting his ear in a potentially sexual way.

The police are now involved too

OP posts:
Trulyme · 27/04/2024 12:50

Itsonlymashadow · 27/04/2024 06:42

I saw the video and there was creepy behaviour right up until the biting.

The way the man’s demeanour changed when he realised the camera was on them was really shocking.

TBH, I feel quite upset the child’s face has been plastered everywhere. That child is, in my opinion, already in an awful situation and now had their face shown. The child must be very distressed by it all.

I completely agree!

The biting is weird but it’s the nuzzling and the behaviour leading up to it that made me feel more uncomfortable.

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 27/04/2024 12:51

AIstolemylunch · 27/04/2024 12:29

He clearly kicks him first before biting his ear. Some of you need to get your glasses prescription updated.

There is no licking. The video is bad enough without people making shit up.

SabreIsMyFave · 27/04/2024 12:53

Ewww, this has given me the collywobbles. This man is treating this boy as if he's his lover. Gross. I feel sick! 😑

NotReadyForAutumnYet · 27/04/2024 12:54

motheronthedancefloor · 27/04/2024 10:23

I have mixed feelings about this.
If it was a family just messing around, playful nip in the ear, sort of thing, then all these stories in the news etc could cause a lot of upset for an innocent family.
But if there is something going on, obviously the police should investigate.

This is my feeling too. Concerns could have been reported without it needing to go viral. Whether it's something or nothing, the wide circulation of this clip will amp up the damage to that kid.

Trulyme · 27/04/2024 12:54

Lots of women are coming to his defence saying they do stuff like this all of the time.

I know of a couple women in real life who have weirdly close relationships with their kids (usually sons) and it does make me feel uncomfortable.

Part of me thinks if he was an abuser, he wouldn’t do this in a public place as they are much more careful.

But I still find it so weird and uncomfortable.

I also feel sorry for the poor kid whose friends and classmates have all seen it and won’t forget it, which is probably worrying him just as much as his dad being investigated.

AIstolemylunch · 27/04/2024 13:02

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 27/04/2024 12:51

There is no licking. The video is bad enough without people making shit up.

Are you visually impaired?

ExhaustedHousewife · 27/04/2024 13:02

People who don't see anything wrong in this behaviour are absolutely blind.

AhBiscuits · 27/04/2024 13:04

I agree there is no licking. He says something to him then nibbles his ear.

ExhaustedHousewife · 27/04/2024 13:06

penjil Busybody? Are you mad? This is disgusting how you are excusing an Adult man licking and biting a child in a sexual way.look at the unpixelated version and tell me it's innocent behaviour.

uhOhOP · 27/04/2024 13:08

SabreIsMyFave · 27/04/2024 12:53

Ewww, this has given me the collywobbles. This man is treating this boy as if he's his lover. Gross. I feel sick! 😑

I've not heard "collywobbles" in a long time!

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 27/04/2024 13:09

For all the people gleefully sharing and asking for the uncensored version.

  1. You are breaching this child's privacy. Yes , other people shared it before you , but you are still part of the problem. Imagine being this kid and having to face your peers, your classmates, your teachers next week . Simply because they might've watched the video. That's without the made up "facts" and speculation and added salubrious details.
  1. If it is the worst case scenario, this is child sexual abuse. You are sharing and asking for depictions of child sexual abuse.

And for what? What exactly will you achieve from your sofa at home? Especially since the police are aware and are investigating.

Combattingthemoaners · 27/04/2024 13:10

AhBiscuits · 27/04/2024 13:04

I agree there is no licking. He says something to him then nibbles his ear.

He doesn’t appear to be saying anything he’s kind of nuzzling into his cheek in a really odd fashion (like you would with a partner, not a child) but I agree there is also no licking. Once again, it’s his facial expression as he's doing it that has made people feel it is not quite right.

Catsmere · 27/04/2024 13:14

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Workhardcryharder · 27/04/2024 13:15

ontheflighttosingapore · 27/04/2024 12:16

Very dangerous attitude and exactly how child abuse goes unreported and carries on get into the real world there is no way that was harmless fun kids need protecting

A very dangerous attitude to have actually is calling men paedophiles with no real evidence apart from some possibly playful possibly not ear nibble. Christ

yesmen · 27/04/2024 13:21

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 27/04/2024 13:09

For all the people gleefully sharing and asking for the uncensored version.

  1. You are breaching this child's privacy. Yes , other people shared it before you , but you are still part of the problem. Imagine being this kid and having to face your peers, your classmates, your teachers next week . Simply because they might've watched the video. That's without the made up "facts" and speculation and added salubrious details.
  1. If it is the worst case scenario, this is child sexual abuse. You are sharing and asking for depictions of child sexual abuse.

And for what? What exactly will you achieve from your sofa at home? Especially since the police are aware and are investigating.

Well said.

skilpadde · 27/04/2024 13:25

It definitely looks to me like a lick, then whisper, then ear nibble.

And it's the boy's non-reaction, rather than him reacting in a jokey "ew, get away!" manner, that makes this seem particularly sinister.

cherish123 · 27/04/2024 13:25

Difficult to see as faces blurred.
However, my first thought it was a father and son, maybe playful and not actually biting, but the kind of mucking about parents and younger kids do. Not sure though.

Saralouhe · 27/04/2024 13:29

The thing is, if this was 'messing about' behaviour the kid would have laughed/pulled away/pushed the dad.

You can see the child freeze when he starts nuzzling him. And during the bite.

It looks like dissociation to me. A sign that this has happened before.

And I was abused as a child (physically and mentally) and I still do this now if anyone starts shouting around me or getting violent.

Catsmere · 27/04/2024 13:39

Saralouhe · 27/04/2024 13:29

The thing is, if this was 'messing about' behaviour the kid would have laughed/pulled away/pushed the dad.

You can see the child freeze when he starts nuzzling him. And during the bite.

It looks like dissociation to me. A sign that this has happened before.

And I was abused as a child (physically and mentally) and I still do this now if anyone starts shouting around me or getting violent.

Edited

That's it, the boy's reaction (or lack of it) puts this on another level. Even if it was "dad messing about" and the boy was laughing and pulling away it would be creepy as hell and totally inappropriate, but that passivity ...

SchoolQuestionnaire · 27/04/2024 13:40

Saralouhe · 27/04/2024 13:29

The thing is, if this was 'messing about' behaviour the kid would have laughed/pulled away/pushed the dad.

You can see the child freeze when he starts nuzzling him. And during the bite.

It looks like dissociation to me. A sign that this has happened before.

And I was abused as a child (physically and mentally) and I still do this now if anyone starts shouting around me or getting violent.

Edited

This.

It’s the lack of reaction from the boy that makes this so creepy. If he’d laughed or even demonstrated surprise in some way it wouldn’t be quite so odd. It feels like this boy has no agency over himself.

Soozikinzii · 27/04/2024 13:44

It was really weird . I hope it's being looked into ? The way the child reacted it just seemed to think it was normal .

KimMumsnet · 27/04/2024 13:49

Afternoon, all. Please do remember that this concerns an ongoing police investigation so please do avoid making direct accusations on this thread, or posting videos which identify the child involved.

Many thanks.

lemmein · 27/04/2024 14:13

It's always really shocking to me that on a parenting group (mostly frequented by women) overt displays of potential abuse is dismissed by some as playful, or ridiculed as 'pearl clutching'.

Even in plain sight, on live tv, people will make excuses for men. It's not ok. Even if it was playful (it isn't!) - doing something on live tv to embarrass your child is a shitty thing to do. No excuses.

Willmafrockfit · 27/04/2024 14:21

the boy didnt care
agree, stop clutching your pearls and jumping to hideous conclusions.

EmilyTjP · 27/04/2024 14:21

Naunet · 27/04/2024 10:32

Then you’re blind. As someone who was abused as a kid, a lot of adults decide they ‘see nothing’.

Unfortunately your history is clouding your judgment.