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Being sent a sympathy card with inappropriate comments

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notedbiscuits · 26/04/2024 12:42

This person is a former friend and colleague. She has done this practice of sending sympathy cards to people she hasn’t spoken to in years. Again with unsympathetic comments. I know she looked through the death messages in the local rag.

The thing - card about a relative that I lost in January. Hardly anyone knew about the death.

The message is inappropriate and upsetting. Not spoken to her in 9 years as I got fed up with her racist attitude.

On a few occasions she has turned up to funerals sitting near the back. Again why?

She’s 73, married.

I don’t think I’m the one to tell her that stop doing this hurtful things.

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muggart · 26/04/2024 19:50

Teddleshon · 26/04/2024 19:13

There are some very weird people out there, after DH’s (lovely) mother died he received a card from someone he’d known for 25 years which opened with “I’m not sorry xxx is dead” and went on for the next 3 pages destroying her character.

He was so upset he didn’t tell me for a few months. I am still absolutely livid about it.

What on earth were they thinking?! That's beyond horrible.

Did anyone ever respond to them? I would have struggled not to lash out a little.

CustardySergeant · 26/04/2024 19:52

GerbilsForever24 · 26/04/2024 15:27

Oh, I hate this kind of comment but it's very common. You have to let these ones roll past.

In a similar but different way, I've often seen really interesting threads on facebook/twitter about what to say/not to say to cancer patients. The basic point being that oftentimes the comments are well meaning, but astonishingly gauche.

I also hate people who turn up at events and don't speak to the host/guest of honour. But again, it's surprisingly common. A lot of people have very poor social skills.

is this woman single?

"is this woman single?"

What is the significance of her marital status? Anyway, it says in the first post that "She’s 73, married."

CaptainMyCaptain · 26/04/2024 19:53

Teddleshon · 26/04/2024 19:13

There are some very weird people out there, after DH’s (lovely) mother died he received a card from someone he’d known for 25 years which opened with “I’m not sorry xxx is dead” and went on for the next 3 pages destroying her character.

He was so upset he didn’t tell me for a few months. I am still absolutely livid about it.

That's the kind of thing I thought the OP was about but it isn't.

kittensinthekitchen · 26/04/2024 19:59

CustardySergeant · 26/04/2024 19:52

"is this woman single?"

What is the significance of her marital status? Anyway, it says in the first post that "She’s 73, married."

Because single women are, obviously, unhinged. Comes from their pure unrivaled envy of all the 'happily married' people Wink

CelesteCunningham · 26/04/2024 20:04

WearyAuldWumman · 26/04/2024 17:18

You certainly could during lockdown and I dare say that it's possible to keep someone out of church during a private service.

ETA Ushers certainly do that for wedding services.

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That's not what ushers are for. Grin They welcome the guests and make sure everyone is seated and comfortable, they're not bouncers. Grin

If ushers tried to turn away regular congregation members who weren't formally invited to the wedding, I imagine the clergy would have something to say about that and the ushers wouldn't like it - church weddings are public events.

Dewdilly · 26/04/2024 20:08

WearyAuldWumman · 26/04/2024 17:18

You certainly could during lockdown and I dare say that it's possible to keep someone out of church during a private service.

ETA Ushers certainly do that for wedding services.

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There’s no such thing as a private service. Church services are open to the public. Anyone can attend.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/04/2024 20:40

notedbiscuits · 26/04/2024 18:49

Still have no idea how she got hold of the information. Relative died 80 miles away and his death was not mentioned in the local rag. Which can access online. This woman doesn’t go online independently as a complete technophobe.

Maybe her tech skills have moved on since you last spoke with her 9 years ago.

Maybe other people don't loathe her and mentioned this to her in passing

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/04/2024 20:43

WearyAuldWumman · 26/04/2024 18:14

https://farewill.com/articles/can-you-legally-stop-someone-coming-to-a-funeral

"One way to avoid having to deal with an unwanted guest is to have a completely private funeral. Usually it’s only a few family members and close friends who come to this sort of funeral.

Be clear in any announcements about the death of your loved one that it’s by invitation only."

The opening paragraph of the article you links states:

"Generally, funerals are public events and there isn’t a way to legally ban someone. But as the organiser, you do have the right to ask a difficult relative not to come"

JWhipple · 26/04/2024 20:44

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otnot · 26/04/2024 20:48

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You'd report a 73 year old woman to the police for sending a condolence card that says grief gets easier with time?

Itsonlymashadow · 26/04/2024 20:48

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Which bit is malicious?

RisingMist · 26/04/2024 20:50

notedbiscuits · 26/04/2024 15:23

The card is now shredded. What she wrote was something on the lines of “time heals old wounds” and you will get over this.

My colleagues, former colleagues and myself have asked her not to come to retirement/leaving/milestone birthday dos anymore as twice she went to them and didn’t talk to the person in question’s do at all - not even a hello or goodbye. That’s insulting

That sounds clumsy, but quite possibly well meant. It can be very difficult to find the right words for a sympathy card.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/04/2024 20:51

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MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/04/2024 20:52

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Being sent a sympathy card with inappropriate comments
Butchyrestingface · 26/04/2024 20:55

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Apropos of nothing, have you ever been charged with wasting police time?

Alittlefrustrated · 26/04/2024 20:55

Responses would have been very different if you'd shared her message in your OP. YABVU. She's not saying or doing anything unusual compared to lots of other older people. I can't believe she's been told not to attend events. Poor woman.

tongsatdawn · 26/04/2024 20:59

GabriellaMontez · 26/04/2024 15:55

That's not an inappropriate comment. You just don't like it because you don't like her.

GabriellaMontez is correct

betterangels · 26/04/2024 20:59

GabriellaMontez · 26/04/2024 15:55

That's not an inappropriate comment. You just don't like it because you don't like her.

Agree. And now the woman is excluded from events.

JWhipple · 26/04/2024 21:00

Butchyrestingface · 26/04/2024 20:55

Apropos of nothing, have you ever been charged with wasting police time?

No, weirdly enough.
If she's writing malicious comments to recently bereaved relatives and there is a clear pattern of this, it's a malicious communication. There's an act, there, that I shared the link to. It's even called the malicious communications act.

Butchyrestingface · 26/04/2024 21:00

JWhipple · 26/04/2024 21:00

No, weirdly enough.
If she's writing malicious comments to recently bereaved relatives and there is a clear pattern of this, it's a malicious communication. There's an act, there, that I shared the link to. It's even called the malicious communications act.

What was the malicious comment?

SisterSupport · 26/04/2024 21:01

Solgrass · 26/04/2024 18:22

So-

  1. It’s an elderly woman
  2. Who struggles socially; Not talking to others at parties, sending cards to people she is no longer in contact with
  3. Ostracised from work colleagues because of said struggles in social settings.
  4. Has send a card in good faith and has expressed sympathy.

Theres only one person I feel sympathy for in this scenario.

This

JWhipple · 26/04/2024 21:02

otnot · 26/04/2024 20:48

You'd report a 73 year old woman to the police for sending a condolence card that says grief gets easier with time?

Ah it sounded from the OP there was a pattern of spiteful and offensive comments. If it's just badly worded that's obviously different. Strewth. I've clearly spent too long on Mumsnet

Frangipanyoul8r · 26/04/2024 21:03

So this woman has taken the time to buy, write and post you a condolence card basically saying grief gets easier with time… what exactly is the issue?

It sounds like a few of you have ganged up on her and just decided she’s nasty whereas in fact she may be nothing more than a little unconventional.

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 26/04/2024 21:03

When I was young I used to frequent the local night club almost every Saturday night. The bouncers knew us but we were still terrified of them, they were stern, no banter types. But I'll never forget when my friend died and I saw 3 of them standing together at the back of the church at the funeral. I thought it was one of the nicest kindest things. They werent even from the town. Not relevant here but I just remembered! The culture where I am is everyone is welcome at a funeral.