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Being sent a sympathy card with inappropriate comments

321 replies

notedbiscuits · 26/04/2024 12:42

This person is a former friend and colleague. She has done this practice of sending sympathy cards to people she hasn’t spoken to in years. Again with unsympathetic comments. I know she looked through the death messages in the local rag.

The thing - card about a relative that I lost in January. Hardly anyone knew about the death.

The message is inappropriate and upsetting. Not spoken to her in 9 years as I got fed up with her racist attitude.

On a few occasions she has turned up to funerals sitting near the back. Again why?

She’s 73, married.

I don’t think I’m the one to tell her that stop doing this hurtful things.

OP posts:
kittensinthekitchen · 26/04/2024 21:04

Butchyrestingface · 26/04/2024 20:55

Apropos of nothing, have you ever been charged with wasting police time?

Yeah, but it was malicious, obviously

kittensinthekitchen · 26/04/2024 21:04

JWhipple · 26/04/2024 21:02

Ah it sounded from the OP there was a pattern of spiteful and offensive comments. If it's just badly worded that's obviously different. Strewth. I've clearly spent too long on Mumsnet

Yet not enough time to actually read the OPs posts Wink

KrisAkabusi · 26/04/2024 21:05

JWhipple · 26/04/2024 21:02

Ah it sounded from the OP there was a pattern of spiteful and offensive comments. If it's just badly worded that's obviously different. Strewth. I've clearly spent too long on Mumsnet

You haven't spent enough time on Mumsnet if you haven't learned to at least read an OP's follow-up posts before replying!

Butchyrestingface · 26/04/2024 21:07

kittensinthekitchen · 26/04/2024 21:04

Yet not enough time to actually read the OPs posts Wink

Not enough time to read the OP's posts but enough time to send her a link to the Malicious Communications Act 1988 and encourage her to contact the police.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 26/04/2024 21:08

You've not spoken to her in 9 years yet you know for sure she doesn't have any SM accounts? Confused

kittensinthekitchen · 26/04/2024 21:09

Butchyrestingface · 26/04/2024 21:07

Not enough time to read the OP's posts but enough time to send her a link to the Malicious Communications Act 1988 and encourage her to contact the police.

Strewth.

Iloveyoubut · 26/04/2024 21:10

Please, please ignore it. It’s a desperate attempt at hoovering imo and you ignoring it will deprive her of the attention she’s desperate for. These people feed on other peoples emotional reactions (good or bad) to their behaviour, it’s like petrol for them. Starve her by ignoring her.

kittensinthekitchen · 26/04/2024 21:12

Iloveyoubut · 26/04/2024 21:10

Please, please ignore it. It’s a desperate attempt at hoovering imo and you ignoring it will deprive her of the attention she’s desperate for. These people feed on other peoples emotional reactions (good or bad) to their behaviour, it’s like petrol for them. Starve her by ignoring her.

You've psychoanalysed that from the OP telling you her old friend sent a condolence card?

Iloveyoubut · 26/04/2024 21:14

kittensinthekitchen · 26/04/2024 21:12

You've psychoanalysed that from the OP telling you her old friend sent a condolence card?

Yeah, that’s what happened there. Pick on someone else for your Friday night argument.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 26/04/2024 21:20

notedbiscuits · 26/04/2024 18:49

Still have no idea how she got hold of the information. Relative died 80 miles away and his death was not mentioned in the local rag. Which can access online. This woman doesn’t go online independently as a complete technophobe.

Did you post about your bereavement on social media on a public setting? Your profile photo and any comments it attracts are always set to public even if your timeline is not. If that's a possibility then:

a) i would not make assumptions that she is incapable of working out how to use social media when you've had nothing to do with her for nine years

b) if you don't want people finding out about your private business then keep it private. Don't post and don't post it where it can be seen by anyone on SM who cares to search for you.

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 26/04/2024 21:23

notedbiscuits · 26/04/2024 18:49

Still have no idea how she got hold of the information. Relative died 80 miles away and his death was not mentioned in the local rag. Which can access online. This woman doesn’t go online independently as a complete technophobe.

How do you know so much about the habits and abilities of someone you have not spoken to for years? Plenty of people in their seventies learn to use the internet. It isn't exactly difficult.

ManchesterLu · 26/04/2024 21:24

notedbiscuits · 26/04/2024 15:23

The card is now shredded. What she wrote was something on the lines of “time heals old wounds” and you will get over this.

My colleagues, former colleagues and myself have asked her not to come to retirement/leaving/milestone birthday dos anymore as twice she went to them and didn’t talk to the person in question’s do at all - not even a hello or goodbye. That’s insulting

But.. it does. Time heals. I'm not sure why you think it's such an awful thing to say?

tiredandabitfat · 26/04/2024 21:26

Eh?

That's not an inappropriate comment (although is the phrase not "all wounds", as opposed to "old wounds"?)

Either way, there's nothing inappropriate about it.

You just don't like her.

Just put the card in the bin and move on.

Itsonlymashadow · 26/04/2024 21:27

There’s no way this woman is raking through newspapers and the like in case someone she used to know has a bereavement.

Nor is she just happening to find out there’s parties and turning up when no one wants her.

Someone is communicating with her. Someone likes and talks to her And she is going out of her way to send a card with a fairly standard, non offensive sentiment in it.

Who exactly are you and the other colleagues, to ban her from attending parties for ex colleagues? Why would you get a say in whether she attends or not?

You don’t like her. But that’s obviously not the case for everyone. Sending cards isn’t inappropriate m. What she has written isn’t inappropriate. Attending a funeral, standing at the back isn’t an inherently bad thing. The issue here is with you and your reaction.

pontipinemum · 26/04/2024 21:28

Is she Irish. Irish people go to a lot of funerals and acknowledge them too by sending cards. Especially the older ones.

I don't think what she wrote was inappropriate either. IME time does heal the wound, the scar will always be there but the initial grief and pain does pass.

Youtwodeserveoneanother · 26/04/2024 21:36

pearlevu · 26/04/2024 15:47

It is weird. Why would you do that out the blue

Because if you know what grief feels like you know that people letting you know they get it and are thinking of you helps and the natural instinct is to help. I think this lady just wants to show her support but is a bit socially awkward.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 26/04/2024 21:37

The card is now shredded.

That's a pretty extreme reaction TBF. It's like you absolutely hate her guts for some reason. The fact that you know (or at least think you do) after 9 years of not seeing her or speaking to her, that she's not on SM tells me you have some sort of obession with her and go out of your way to find out what she's up to.

Have you searched high and low on SM and come to the conclusion that she's not on there?

The message in the card was a bit trite, but not offensive. People always think they have to say something profound, but frankly, anything more than 'sorry for your loss' is a risk. Someone will always find a reason to be offended by anything else.

This is why people cross the road to avoid someone recently bereaved. They don't know what to say and are terrified of saying the wrong thing. It's a minefield.

otnot · 26/04/2024 21:48

JWhipple · 26/04/2024 21:02

Ah it sounded from the OP there was a pattern of spiteful and offensive comments. If it's just badly worded that's obviously different. Strewth. I've clearly spent too long on Mumsnet

It did seem like a slight overreaction!

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 26/04/2024 21:51

WearyAuldWumman · 26/04/2024 18:14

https://farewill.com/articles/can-you-legally-stop-someone-coming-to-a-funeral

"One way to avoid having to deal with an unwanted guest is to have a completely private funeral. Usually it’s only a few family members and close friends who come to this sort of funeral.

Be clear in any announcements about the death of your loved one that it’s by invitation only."

I can assure you as someone who does funerals in church... you CANNOT ban someone from a church

StarlightLime · 26/04/2024 21:55

Iloveyoubut · 26/04/2024 21:14

Yeah, that’s what happened there. Pick on someone else for your Friday night argument.

Your post was quite ridiculous 🤷🏻‍♀️

Blondeshavemorefun · 26/04/2024 22:05

Time Does heal

ViscountessMelbourne · 26/04/2024 22:20

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 26/04/2024 21:51

I can assure you as someone who does funerals in church... you CANNOT ban someone from a church

No, but you can hold it at a random time of day and only tell the people you've invited when it's going to be.

category12 · 26/04/2024 22:29

ViscountessMelbourne · 26/04/2024 22:20

No, but you can hold it at a random time of day and only tell the people you've invited when it's going to be.

But why?

Funerals are supposed to be to give people a chance to mourn and celebrate the life of the person who has died, and to show support for the people most closely affected.

Unless the person who died expressly asked for it to be private or there are issues within the family, why would you want to keep people out?

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 26/04/2024 22:34

ViscountessMelbourne · 26/04/2024 22:20

No, but you can hold it at a random time of day and only tell the people you've invited when it's going to be.

And if someone finds out then they can turn up...

ViscountessMelbourne · 26/04/2024 22:37

category12 · 26/04/2024 22:29

But why?

Funerals are supposed to be to give people a chance to mourn and celebrate the life of the person who has died, and to show support for the people most closely affected.

Unless the person who died expressly asked for it to be private or there are issues within the family, why would you want to keep people out?

You said it yourself, family issues or a very private deceased. It's not ideal, but it does happen.