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Am I the only person that doesn't like Taylor Swift?

235 replies

drymascara · 20/04/2024 14:04

Her Music I mean.
Seems to be a ginormous following of all age groups! I don't get it, listened to a lot of her Music including the new Album - to me it just sounds like music for Children / Tweens?! What am I missing??

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PeanutAndBanana · 20/04/2024 18:41

@exomoon I direct people to All Too Well. Not the ten minute version, but the original shorter one: that's a masterpiece of song writing and still (I think) her best song. Lyrically it's very good. And a thoughtful reflection on a short relationship gone wrong when you're young.

OldHabitsDieScreaming · 20/04/2024 18:42

@exomoon There's little point in posting random lyrics because out of context they almost always look daft.

However if you are 'genuinely interested' then the Folklore and Evemore albums are probably a good place to start.

SuffolkUnicorn · 20/04/2024 18:44

No my scene more of a metal head

exomoon · 20/04/2024 18:44

PeanutAndBanana · 20/04/2024 18:41

@exomoon I direct people to All Too Well. Not the ten minute version, but the original shorter one: that's a masterpiece of song writing and still (I think) her best song. Lyrically it's very good. And a thoughtful reflection on a short relationship gone wrong when you're young.

Will have a listen/look :)

SuffolkUnicorn · 20/04/2024 18:44

Not

whynotwhatknot · 20/04/2024 18:44

no i dont get it-the absolute fawning over some new album- omg i ant breathe an omg my life has change are some thinmgs ive read just today

a couple of songs are ok but no way in 50 years are people going to be playing them as classics

exomoon · 20/04/2024 18:44

OldHabitsDieScreaming · 20/04/2024 18:42

@exomoon There's little point in posting random lyrics because out of context they almost always look daft.

However if you are 'genuinely interested' then the Folklore and Evemore albums are probably a good place to start.

Any particular songs?

SpicyMoth · 20/04/2024 18:45

OldHabitsDieScreaming · 20/04/2024 18:31

I mean, Paramore are the support for her UK/European tour and have collaborated with her on earlier albums so...

Beautifully proving my point that most people who slag off TS do so from a position of absolute ignorance of what she actually does.

Not particularly proving your point at all imo, I didn't slag her off either?

I'm well aware that they're long term friends and have collaborated previously - I've seen video upon video on YouTube when friends have previously tried to get me into TS.

That doesn't change the fact that I absolutely do not like TS's music. I don't hate her as a person, but her genre and style just isn't for me?
The same way I hate modern Paramore and only really enjoy Hayley's older albums lol.
Sorry my music tastes offend you though I guess :S

SummaLuvin · 20/04/2024 18:45

exomoon · 20/04/2024 18:39

What are some deep lyrics of hers than? Genuinely interested.

I often find lyrics look naff in isolation, but here are a handful

And now that I'm grown, I'm scared of ghosts / Memories feel like weapons / And now that I know, I wish you'd left me wondering

You made a rebel of a careless mans careful daughter

So I'll watch your life in pictures like I used to watch you sleep / And I feel you forget me like I used to feel you breathe / And I'll keep up with our old friends just to ask them how you are / Hope it's nice where you are / And I hope the sun shines and it's a beautiful day / And something reminds you, you wish you had stayed / You can plan for a change in the weather and time / But I never planned on you changing your mind

And you come away with a great little story / Of a mess of a dreamer with the nerve to adore you

Give you the silence that only comes when two people understand each other / family that I chose, now that I see your brother as my brother / is it enough?

And you wanna scream / Don't call me "kid" don't call me "baby" / Look at this godforsaken mess that you made me / You showed me colors you know I can't see with anyone else/ Don't call me "kid" don't call me "baby" / Look at this idiotic fool that you made me / You taught me a secret language I can't speak with anyone else / And you know damn well / For you, I would ruin myself / a million little times

And you call me up again just to break me like a promise / So casually cruel in the name of being honest

MaryBeardsShoes · 20/04/2024 18:47

Oh, here we go again!!

Hagbard · 20/04/2024 18:48

On the whole, I'm not a fan. Most of her music leaves me cold. However, there's a few I fucking love - anti hero, karma, the man, and shake it off

OldHabitsDieScreaming · 20/04/2024 18:49

exomoon · 20/04/2024 18:44

Any particular songs?

Try Champagne Problems /Tis The Damn Season / Tolerate It/ Ivy on Evermore.

I also particularly love Seven and This Is Me Trying on Folklore.

SummaLuvin · 20/04/2024 18:51

@exomoon fans (like me) love the deep cuts found in album tracks, but even her more commercial hits have good and witty writing. For example, Blank Space is written from the perspective of the character she felt the media portrayed her as - which was made funnier when trashy magazine started publishing articles asking who her new single was about, that would be you...

rollonretirementfgs · 20/04/2024 18:51

Her music isn't my thing but I think she is a fantastic role model for little girls. A natural looking girl, plays instruments, writes her own music and doesn't feel the need to act like an old slapper to get attention. I like her and she comes across as a really nice and intelligent woman

Pickled21 · 20/04/2024 18:51

She is very talented. I'm not a fan of her music though.

tabulahrasa · 20/04/2024 18:52

exomoon · 20/04/2024 18:39

What are some deep lyrics of hers than? Genuinely interested.

Depends what you like… mostly not the singles 😂 they usually seemed to be picked to be catchy radio hits

she does a lot of playing on words, not a huge favourite of mine, but as an example of that - Maroon from midnights where it’s both about the colour and maroon as to be left alone and trapped and lines like, That's a real fucking legacy to leave where it seems to be both leaving a legacy and that the legacy is to leave.

Or deeper in meaning, there are lots about her relationship with fame/the media/fans, I like nothing new from red or mad woman from folklore, but there are a couple about that on most albums tbh.

OldHabitsDieScreaming · 20/04/2024 18:56

SpicyMoth · 20/04/2024 18:45

Not particularly proving your point at all imo, I didn't slag her off either?

I'm well aware that they're long term friends and have collaborated previously - I've seen video upon video on YouTube when friends have previously tried to get me into TS.

That doesn't change the fact that I absolutely do not like TS's music. I don't hate her as a person, but her genre and style just isn't for me?
The same way I hate modern Paramore and only really enjoy Hayley's older albums lol.
Sorry my music tastes offend you though I guess :S

Edited

You haven't 'offended' me. I just think it's bizarre that you would use Paramore as an example of why you wouldn't like TS when they are literally her support band.

If you'd said 'I'm a fan of Cannibal Corpse and Tibetan nose flute symphonies so obvs I hate Taylor Swift's music haha' then I could see your point but...

exomoon · 20/04/2024 18:58

@SummaLuvin @OldHabitsDieScreaming @tabulahrasa

Thanks for the suggestions / lyrics, will read/listen and report back :)

Mnk711 · 20/04/2024 18:59

I find her music very meh. I also don't really like Beyonce's music ducks for cover though I appreciate the strong female role model aspect of both women.

MrsArcher23 · 20/04/2024 19:10

She's a cultural phenomenon and I can't wait for her concert in June. I was quite ambivalent this time last year but got swept up in the whole ticket craze last summer and was very lucky to book regular tickets at a regular price. Taking my niece (mega fan ) and my sister. Getting caught up in the excitement of it all. I don't care if it isn't cool, I'm over 50 so I don't care what people think anymore!

SpicyMoth · 20/04/2024 19:17

OldHabitsDieScreaming · 20/04/2024 18:56

You haven't 'offended' me. I just think it's bizarre that you would use Paramore as an example of why you wouldn't like TS when they are literally her support band.

If you'd said 'I'm a fan of Cannibal Corpse and Tibetan nose flute symphonies so obvs I hate Taylor Swift's music haha' then I could see your point but...

Support band =/= the same music though.
Nor does collaborating on stuff.

I don't see how it's that bizarre tbh, the genre's are different?
People are allowed to like one type of music and not like another, just because one band supports another band doesn't mean you simply have to like all the music.

When I went to see MCR they had a support band who I absolutely couldn't stand so I swanned off whilst they were performing until MCR came on - is that bizarre also?? I don't even recall their name, but they were an entirely different genre and it was not my thing at all lol.

Hayley has experimented with many different sounds & genre's. I only like one type.
Sure I could've prefaced by saying "old school" Paramore, but that's splitting hairs & being pedantic at that point imho.
Either way, again, at NO point did I "slag TS off".
I'm sure there's plenty of TS fans who don't like Paramore's music.

I like Foo Fighters music and dislike Billie Eilish's, yet they have performed together - That's not bizarre imo to compare and contrast the two simply because they've also performed together.

I should've known better before commenting on a thread where massive TS fans would come in to comment and defend their idol tbh 😂😂

EndlessVortex · 20/04/2024 19:22

exomoon · 20/04/2024 18:58

@SummaLuvin @OldHabitsDieScreaming @tabulahrasa

Thanks for the suggestions / lyrics, will read/listen and report back :)

I’ll also nudge you in the direction of Maroon and So Long, London

OldHabitsDieScreaming · 20/04/2024 19:23

Ok, @SpicyMoth have it your way. I really cba with such wilful obtuseness.

Josette77 · 20/04/2024 19:24

Yes. You are the only person in the world.

You are clearly very VERY unique.

GellerYeller · 20/04/2024 19:25

@SpicyMoth which MCR show were you at? I’m trying to figure out who the support was!