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Gynaecologist remark to DH

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Gyneapologist · 19/04/2024 14:19

in response to my dh saying he wanted me to have an MRI so he could stop worrying about me “I get it mate, you want to trade her in for a younger model’. We were both 😲

male, 60s and also an oncologist as this was a post-cancer appointment. Im
53 btw.

I feel equally humiliated and outraged
as well as lost for words. It was a quip and I’m sure many will say it’s harmless but I think it speaks to the culture of misogyny in the NHS. For context, I requested an appointment in regards to on-going pain from a serious post-surgery infection.

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ImAlwaysknackered · 19/04/2024 16:58

VesperLind · 19/04/2024 14:21

Why was your husband with you in the consultation?

Going to take a wild guess here..

Maybe for support!?

🙄🙄🙄

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 19/04/2024 16:59

labamba007 · 19/04/2024 15:25

Do you ever notice that the people who like to play devils advocate are often complete knobs? 🙄

It was an awful comment by your doctor. And yes sexism is rife in the NHS. Women are misdiagnosed or dismissed constantly, or not given pain medication (when in an equivalent situation men are).

Definitely complain OP, I'm so sorry he said that.

I was coming on here to point out that "just playing devil's advocate" is a phrase that people only use when they know they're about to say something totally out of order

shoppingshamed · 19/04/2024 17:00

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Oaktree55 · 19/04/2024 17:01

Female gynaes are far worse in my experience

Runnerinthenight · 19/04/2024 17:03

VesperLind · 19/04/2024 14:21

Why was your husband with you in the consultation?

Stupid question!!!

BishyBarnyBee · 19/04/2024 17:03

Oaktree55 · 19/04/2024 17:01

Female gynaes are far worse in my experience

Bet no female gynae in the history of the world has ever joked with a husband about replacing his wife with a young model though.

CustardySergeant · 19/04/2024 17:03

Oaktree55 · 19/04/2024 17:01

Female gynaes are far worse in my experience

Really? What is your experience of worse misogyny that this from female gynaes?

Whatifthehokeycokey · 19/04/2024 17:04

Definitely make a complaint. You have DH as a witness. Note the apprentice was there as well.

godmum56 · 19/04/2024 17:04

MsRosley · 19/04/2024 16:55

All the arrogant misogynists I've met in the NHS have been consultants. The power seems to go to their heads and they think they're lords of the universe.

this. I have met (and worked with) some lovely consultants but oh my goodness there are also some doozies there.

Newpancake92 · 19/04/2024 17:05

BishyBarnyBee · 19/04/2024 14:23

What on earth has that got to do with anything?

She is probably looking for any reason to put the blame on the OP for what happened 🤷🏼‍♀️
OP, that comment from the doctor was needless and awful

Zebracat · 19/04/2024 17:05

Please please complain. I once went to the GP after a head injury and whilst there, lost the ability to speak. They called an ambulance and phoned my Dh to meet us at A&E. The paramedic laughed his head off and said it was every man’s dream. He made disgusting remarks about every woman the ambulance passed He told my husband to not let them fix it. I didn’t report but wish I had. That man is alone with vulnerable women every day. Makes me sick. Your consultant needs to learn that women arent “models”. Disgusting.

Gatekeeper · 19/04/2024 17:06

VesperLind · 19/04/2024 14:21

Why was your husband with you in the consultation?

@VesperLind Christ....can you really not see why he is there. Is that all you have gleaned from her post?

PostItInABook · 19/04/2024 17:09

Sexual safety in the workplace is a HUGE thing in the NHS at the moment, and includes employees and patients within it. This sort of comment is exactly the reason why it exists. Definitely complain. Also, check if the NHS Trust this consultant works for has signed up to the NHS sexual safety charter.

Runnerinthenight · 19/04/2024 17:11

BeaRF75 · 19/04/2024 14:49

Just playing devil's advocate, maybe seeing a husband present means that a doctor assumes that they are a very "traditional" couple? I can't imagine ever choosing to take my husband with me to an appointment, even though he is medically qualified - I would want to be treated as the competent, independent person that I am.
But, yes, everyone is different...

Are you actually for real?!!

I don't know anyone who would leave a close family member to be alone at an appointment of this type. I think your attitude is deeply weird.

StaunchMomma · 19/04/2024 17:12

This is outrageous, OP.

What an awful way to to treat a patient!

I really think you should complain. These things need calling out. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME!

I think both you and DH should complain separately. I'd also demand an apology.

What a giant twat that Dr is, honestly.

vincettenoir · 19/04/2024 17:13

I don't even get the joke. What a random thing to say?

AnitaLoos · 19/04/2024 17:17

Fucking outrageous and gross. Definitely complain. Start with PALS & escalate if the response is inadequate.

Orophile · 19/04/2024 17:17

Gyneapologist · 19/04/2024 14:47

Yes he did. But i don’t think that’s the point?

I didn’t mean for it to be the point.

It is unacceptable what he said and now you have been referred for your MRI, I would complain too.

RawBloomers · 19/04/2024 17:18

BeaRF75 · 19/04/2024 14:49

Just playing devil's advocate, maybe seeing a husband present means that a doctor assumes that they are a very "traditional" couple? I can't imagine ever choosing to take my husband with me to an appointment, even though he is medically qualified - I would want to be treated as the competent, independent person that I am.
But, yes, everyone is different...

Looks like the Devil needs to change legal teams.

That comment is no more appropriate for a “traditional” couple than anyone else.

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Lifeomars · 19/04/2024 17:19

report him, if he says stuff like this, god knows what he thinks! he is seeing women at their most vulnerable and he is coming out with utter crap like this. I have a bit of an issue with men being gynaecologists, and it is for reasons like this. A family member (young and with terrible menstual problems) was told by a male gynaecologist that having a baby would help her problems and then told her that he had kids! Guess it sorted out his agonising periods a treat

nothingcomestonothing · 19/04/2024 17:19

Gyneapologist · 19/04/2024 16:14

He is a Gynaecologist Oncologist 🤷‍♀️

no, no nurse there. There was a male ‘apprentice’ as he was referred to - I assume a medical student

Edited

An oncologist is a medic, not a surgeon. Or is he an oncology surgeon? I'm bamboozled that an oncology consult would happen without a nurse in the room, not withstanding whatever variety of trainee the other bloke was. I don't know about surgical consultations but I would also assume a nurse would be present as standard, for chaperoning any physical examinations apart from anything else. The whole thing sounds very wrong.

ClareBlue · 19/04/2024 17:19

ChristmasGutPunch · 19/04/2024 16:48

On the off chance you are in Scotland, I would consider reporting this to the police on the basis that it's threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour pertaining to age (now a protected characteristic).

I think it is dangerous for medics to harbour attitudes like this.

And all those who thought there would be issues with the new hate legislation have just been proved right.
Do you really, really think what he said is a criminal offence that deserves criminal investigation and criminal sanctions.

Bringbackspring · 19/04/2024 17:22

Definitely complain, totally inappropriate behaviour. And don't be put off by the fact that you may have to see this doctor again. They should feel ashamed and have to apologise to you.

And for the weirdos who don't understand why your DH would be there with you, I accompany my DH to lots of medical appointments at his request for 1) moral support 2) helping to remember the details and 3) a PP was right that you can often feel very small and unheard in these consultations. My DH has experienced this over and over during a life time of illness and really appreciates me helping to back him up as he is so often just not listened to.

Jadeleigh196 · 19/04/2024 17:22

What a dick. It's weird enough that men feel the need to enter into fields such as gynaecology and obstetrics. It feels to me that, whether conscious or not, there a level of wanting to exercise control over women's bodies and experiences which really they should have nothing to do with.