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AIBU for paying child caused damage out of wedding gift money?

473 replies

Toffifee1 · 17/04/2024 13:33

Let me start by saying i will absolutely always offer or even insist to pay for damage that my child (or I, I‘m clumsy) caused. But this one i thought was unnecessary.

My DC accidentally broke a plate - a regular, plain, rented plate, nothing fancy, no family heirloom - at a wedding. I apologised and cleaned it up. I did not offer to replace it because it was just a plate at a wedding venue, i thought those damages were kind of included.

Additional info: I know the groom was trying to safe every penny in advance of the wedding while the bride wanted everything extravagant and chic and the pair asked for money as gifts. The wedding was at an expensive instagram-worthy location(castle) but they saved money on everything regarding the guests like low budget food(not even enough) and few drinks.

The groom asked me to replace the plate in front of all the other guests. I was honestly a bit taken aback as i still had the envelope with enough money to more than cover my meal in my purse.
So i reached into my purse, took the envelope, took one of the two 100£ notes out and handed it to him saying „This should cover it, you can give me the change later.“

So basically everyone including the groom realised that i just reduced his gift money. Was i being unreasonable?

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WitchWithoutChips · 19/04/2024 12:27

BIossomtoes · 19/04/2024 11:09

Why should guests have to cover the cost of their meals? The clue’s in the name otherwise you might as well just call them customers.

There are numerous cultural contexts where it’s the norm to ensure that your monetary gift ‘covers your plate’. See also ‘no boxed gifts’.

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 19/04/2024 12:41

Toffifee1 · 18/04/2024 22:08

It was for DH, DCs(toddler and baby) and I. Weddings are expensive.

Yes I know, I’ve been to lots and am married myself.

I still think that’s a ridiculous amount of money for a wedding present for anyone other than close family. I didn’t understand your comment about it covering you, H and kids but I gather it’s to do with “covering your plate”. What a crass concept.

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 19/04/2024 12:46

3luckystars · 19/04/2024 10:16

200 would be normal amount per couple at a wedding, and if you brought children, then maybe even more.

I would love to see a thread on here with a list, how much would you give for:

wedding
sibling wedding
wedding abroad
niece holy communion
Next door neighbour 50th
21st birthday
etc.

and everyone fills in what they would give.

(No £100 notes allowed as that is too confusing 😁)

Wedding £50, £100 if close/all day invite
Sibling wedding £200 maybe
Wedding abroad £50 max (assuming I was going due to the costs involved in attending g)
holy communion £20
next door neighbour £0 (maybe a bottle of Prosecco)
21st £50 - £100 (assuming not my own child)

HTH

Lyraloo · 19/04/2024 13:19

Soontobe60 · 19/04/2024 08:13

It’s still a ridiculous amount.

Wow, what gives you the right to decide if it’s a ridiculous amount? So rude, people give what they want and can afford!

Toffifee1 · 19/04/2024 13:21

Member984815 · 19/04/2024 10:10

I've often carried the card around with cash gift in it until I meet the responsible person to give it to. 200 wouldn't be considered a large amount for a gift for a family member.

Thank you! Finally someone. It‘s not that weird apart from the placement of the £ behind the number and it has been stated here before that this story has been slightly changed (currency included) for anonymity.

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Toffifee1 · 19/04/2024 13:25

3luckystars · 19/04/2024 10:16

200 would be normal amount per couple at a wedding, and if you brought children, then maybe even more.

I would love to see a thread on here with a list, how much would you give for:

wedding
sibling wedding
wedding abroad
niece holy communion
Next door neighbour 50th
21st birthday
etc.

and everyone fills in what they would give.

(No £100 notes allowed as that is too confusing 😁)

Great idea but i think it depends a lot on your area (hosting a party or a wedding in london would be a lot more expensive while people who live and celebrate in London might also have a higher income).

For my location the amount was adequate to feed 2-3 people at a wedding in a medium budget range.

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ellyeth · 19/04/2024 13:26

One plate! How ridiculous of him. Well done to you.

Toffifee1 · 19/04/2024 13:30

WitchWithoutChips · 19/04/2024 12:27

There are numerous cultural contexts where it’s the norm to ensure that your monetary gift ‘covers your plate’. See also ‘no boxed gifts’.

Yes that is what i intended with my gift as the groom was so worried about the wedding costs beforehand.
i then changed my mind upon discovering that the wedding was so expensive because of dress/location/decorations/photographer and there was barely any cost going towards the guests(not enough food etc) AND him being so rude to me. That was before i had gifted the money so it was still up to be to decide how much to gift - in my opinion.

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Toffifee1 · 19/04/2024 13:41

llizzie · 18/04/2024 23:29

The groom's mistake was to challenge you in front of his guests. That should never happen. It is a very unsociable thing to do and he obviously had no knowledge of etiquette.

He should have approached you later, when the two of you could not be overheard. A groom with that attitude is unlikely to improve after the honeymoon. I fear that is about as good as it gets for his bride.

btw.. the groom never behaved out of social norms until he met the bride. Has always been tight but i’m sure the bride was behind this as she was also the one asking the grooms parents to pay for her extravagant wedding ideas(they didn’t) and the entire family(us included) for help (labour and to borrow items etc). I think he‘s the one to pity here as her visa and livelyhood is now secured but time will tell..

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Moll2020 · 19/04/2024 19:52

I salute you, what a brilliant response x

ItDoesntHaveToBeDave · 19/04/2024 19:59

Ah, so what you are saying @Toffifee1 if that you have a cousin who has so little backbone, that they are led by the short and curlies by his wife. How sad.

Devora13 · 19/04/2024 21:07

What is a £100 note?

WarshipRocinante · 19/04/2024 21:53

Devora13 · 19/04/2024 21:07

What is a £100 note?

I can’t tell. Is that a “cancel the cheque” joke?

exomoon · 19/04/2024 22:00

Devora13 · 19/04/2024 21:07

What is a £100 note?

A hunnid bands.

Crumblespiesetc · 19/04/2024 22:14

To the people who are suggesting you were rude... he was rude to you, his guest, and you responded reasonably in my opinion!
Please don't give the extra hundred unless you genuinely feel moved to do so!

Toffifee1 · 20/04/2024 04:42

Devora13 · 19/04/2024 21:07

What is a £100 note?

they exist in NI and Scotand.

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CameltoeParkerBowles · 20/04/2024 09:33

Toffifee1 · 17/04/2024 13:33

Let me start by saying i will absolutely always offer or even insist to pay for damage that my child (or I, I‘m clumsy) caused. But this one i thought was unnecessary.

My DC accidentally broke a plate - a regular, plain, rented plate, nothing fancy, no family heirloom - at a wedding. I apologised and cleaned it up. I did not offer to replace it because it was just a plate at a wedding venue, i thought those damages were kind of included.

Additional info: I know the groom was trying to safe every penny in advance of the wedding while the bride wanted everything extravagant and chic and the pair asked for money as gifts. The wedding was at an expensive instagram-worthy location(castle) but they saved money on everything regarding the guests like low budget food(not even enough) and few drinks.

The groom asked me to replace the plate in front of all the other guests. I was honestly a bit taken aback as i still had the envelope with enough money to more than cover my meal in my purse.
So i reached into my purse, took the envelope, took one of the two 100£ notes out and handed it to him saying „This should cover it, you can give me the change later.“

So basically everyone including the groom realised that i just reduced his gift money. Was i being unreasonable?

As everyone else has said, you are a legend, and the groom is a rude, cheeky fucker. Well done!

CameltoeParkerBowles · 20/04/2024 09:41

CameltoeParkerBowles · 20/04/2024 09:33

As everyone else has said, you are a legend, and the groom is a rude, cheeky fucker. Well done!

Well, not quite everyone. But most people.

StarvingMarvin222 · 20/04/2024 13:15

I think he only rang to get the rest of the money and he threw in his mental health for good measure.

I'd keep the £100 and treat yourself for the trauma he caused you 🤣

Sjh15 · 20/04/2024 13:17

You hero
continue to give him just £100 gift money.
use the other £100 to cover the place and keep the rest

DottyLottieLou · 20/04/2024 13:26

Devora13 · Yesterday 21:07
What is a £100 note?

Have a guess, lol 🙄

1HappyTraveller · 20/04/2024 13:27

Janetime · 17/04/2024 14:45

As much as I find he could have handled that better, I find your behaviour incredibly rude and I’d have been side eying you with embarrassment for you. The kid broke it, you should have offered to pay. He shouldn’t have asked like that, but you were really rude .

i also find your put down of the wedding ie budget food, insta ready etc cringe worthy,

He should have offered to pay… for. the. plate…? 🤣

@Janetime fess up… was this your wedding?

SheGotOffThePlane · 20/04/2024 13:28

For all the naysayers, here's a pic of a £100 note. And I'm not loaded, just happened to be given one in a very generous gift (and no, I'm not the South American wife)

AIBU for paying child caused damage out of wedding gift money?
Underestimated4 · 20/04/2024 13:28

This was a brilliant response. Not unreasonable. Nice one you.

Nettie1964 · 20/04/2024 15:09

Venues usually include breakages in a contract. Unless there was somebody counting plates in and out which seems counter productive how would they know. I was a chef in a hotel we had a bin near the enormous automated dishwasher and it was always 1/2 full of broken plates cups and glasses. We dint charge guests. Sounds like a scam. Well done.