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to think this CAN work - son and pregnant daughter-in-law moving in

452 replies

dirtyblond · 14/04/2024 00:07

so, what do you think? has this worked for you? Would you do it again? What mistakes should I avoid? What tips to make it successful. They are being evicted, and are planning on staying here around a year, while they get some savings together - both work full time.

OP posts:
dirtyblond · 14/04/2024 00:47

Hairyfairy01 · 14/04/2024 00:45

OP, you only answered half my question. Are they expecting you to provide free childcare when they return to work? Why can't they afford rent if both working full time? If a real struggle can't they claim UC?

no, I am not in a position to provide child care, as I work myself- I could do a little bit. They can't afford to rent their own place right now, and they are not entitled to UC

OP posts:
maddening · 14/04/2024 00:47

Chat to her about other interests other than just the baby - feeling that your only interest in her is the baby can feel unpleasant and getting to know each other as equals will make a better foundation for ongoing relationship.

dirtyblond · 14/04/2024 00:48

BettyShagter · 14/04/2024 00:47

I think another thing to ask yourself is if it doesn't work out, how would you feel about telling them they need to move out, especially with a baby?

That is quite a big worry

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Shinyandnew1 · 14/04/2024 00:48

They can't afford to rent their own place right now

With both of them working full time?

How is this going to change/improve if they have a baby?!

DNLove · 14/04/2024 00:48

BettyShagter · 14/04/2024 00:45

I did chuckle at this! 🤣🤣🤣

It sounds ridiculous but it's where they will clash. His mammy says he likes his eggs this way and his partner cooks them the other day. Not so much responsible but competing to be the matriarch under one roof.

Aquamarine1029 · 14/04/2024 00:50

I fail to see how they will be able to afford anything in a year when they can't afford it now while both working full-time.

You really need to think this through.

LightDrizzle · 14/04/2024 00:52

I think it’s a huge, huge challenge.

It is very kind of you to offer and I’d do the same in the same circumstances but I think it can easily ruin a good relationship but of course it’s not inevitable.

Is your house large? What kind of accommodation will they have? Will they have their own bathroom? I assume there is only one kitchen.

For it to work I think you need to agree ground rules from day -28

Things to consider include:

  • financial contribution
  • how shared space is to be shared: especially the kitchen.
  • responsibility for cleaning and maintaining shared areas
  • division of housework
  • inviting friends and family over, particularly after the birth
  • privacy
  • duration of their stay

It is your house so your standards of cleanliness in communal areas have to be respected so if you never leave dirty dishes overnight then they need to respect that and do as you do. On the other hand I think you have to give them total control over spaces that are temporarily entirely theirs: so no inspecting and criticising “their” bedroom or bathroom if they have one. Once the baby comes, don’t invite people round to meet the baby without asking them if they are happy with it. You can invite people as your guests to your own house to see you but not to meet the baby. If you have friends or wider family round and your son doesn’t make an appearance with the baby then don’t be cross about it.

Are you happy for them to invite their friends and her family over? Is there space for that? What ground rules around it would you want? It’s unlikely you are going to want to be picking your way around 5 young adults and as many Domino’s boxes in your sitting room at 6 pm on a Sunday.

Start as you mean to go on as getting tougher causes resentment. Don’t fall into the trap of “Well I might as well put some of their washing on to make a full load” and letting it creep and then becoming resentful at everything you are doing. Your DIL will understandably drop off a cliff for a good while in terms of her contribution to housework after delivery so your son will have to pick up her part as well as his as he (hopefully) would were they in their own home together. However as he is your son and grew up with you and his dad looking after him, he may fall back into that role. Only let him if picking up after other people brings you joy and if you can be sure you won’t resent him or your DIL. Personally I’d resist any temptation to “rescue” him as it will be good practise for him and it really isn’t your job. For the first couple of weeks however I personally would happily cook all dinners while they find their feet as that’s something I’d happily do if they weren’t living with me and they’ll both be knackered.

I mean obviously you don’t have to be quite as rigid as I’m suggesting but what normally happens is that things are very unstructured, - because family, and then imbalance arises and resentment creeps in.

As long as shared areas are kept tidy and they look after their end of jobs, you both need to bite your tongues if they do things differently to how you would or did: so if DIL wanders into the kitchen at 3.00pm for her 8th cup of tea still in her dressing-gown and you were always showered and dressed straight after the first feed of the day; remind yourself that it’s not hurting you or the baby and you would be blissfully unaware if she wasn’t living under the same roof.

You and your husband and your son and his partner all need your privacy. So no knocking on bedroom or study doors to find out what anyone is up to or what they’ve been doing in there all that time. Sharing a roof doesn’t mean you have to be available to each other all day.

Are they being evicted for non-payment of rent or just because the landlord wants the property back for selling of another use? If the former I’d be concerned about their ability to save and successfully fledge in a year. I mean I’d still put them up in their situation but with some trepidation.

I wish you luck. I don’t envy you.

Hairyfairy01 · 14/04/2024 00:52

How can they both be working full time, yet not be able to afford to rent nor claim UC? What would they do if you weren't around OP?

crumblingschools · 14/04/2024 00:53

@DNLove why does there need to be a matriarch. Maybe he can cook his own eggs?

Can they really afford a baby? How long have they been together?

Palomabalom · 14/04/2024 00:53

DNLove · 14/04/2024 00:48

It sounds ridiculous but it's where they will clash. His mammy says he likes his eggs this way and his partner cooks them the other day. Not so much responsible but competing to be the matriarch under one roof.

Or how about the grown ass man cooks his own eggs

BettyShagter · 14/04/2024 00:53

DNLove · 14/04/2024 00:48

It sounds ridiculous but it's where they will clash. His mammy says he likes his eggs this way and his partner cooks them the other day. Not so much responsible but competing to be the matriarch under one roof.

WTF?

Is there no scenario in your mind where this grown man will be cooking is own eggs, you know....like grown adults tend to?

MrsCrumPinnett · 14/04/2024 00:53

Aquamarine1029 · 14/04/2024 00:50

I fail to see how they will be able to afford anything in a year when they can't afford it now while both working full-time.

You really need to think this through.

This, really. If they’ve only been able to afford a bed sit until now, under optimal earning conditions, how do they think they are going to afford maternity leave, paid childcare AND increased housing costs after the child is born? Sounds like they aren’t going to be in a position to be independent for another 5-6 years, until the child is at school.

Testina · 14/04/2024 00:54

DNLove · 14/04/2024 00:48

It sounds ridiculous but it's where they will clash. His mammy says he likes his eggs this way and his partner cooks them the other day. Not so much responsible but competing to be the matriarch under one roof.

It doesn’t just sound ridiculous, it is ridiculous.

Are you honestly saying that you would compete with your daughter in law over how your adult son liked his eggs?

His a thought… men actually cook their own eggs 🙄

What am I reading? You’re nuts!

@dirtyblond you are not going to clash over your son’s preference for scrambled over poached, unless you’ve utterly failed to bring him up as a competent human.

Ignore nonsense like this.

I would say there will always be niggles, but try to let small things go, whilst always remembering that in your house you’re allowed to expect the small things when you want.

The biggest issue will be the end date because of the potential for guilt over the baby.

Thepowerhouseofthecell · 14/04/2024 00:55

Don't be too opinionated about how they choose to do things with baby. Of course if you have genuine advice then give it but just be mindful that it doesn't come across as criticism.

BettyShagter · 14/04/2024 00:56

If he's learned how to fertilise his girlfriend's eggs, I'm sure he knows how to cook one that came out of a friggin hen.

CJ0374 · 14/04/2024 00:57

no, I won't be charging rent, yes, I have other children, but they have their own homes. I won't be helping them out, except by proving them somewhere to live

Why not charge rent? They are both working! Surely you will lose you single person council tax (you haven't mentioned a partner), plus the bills and increased household costs!

Your other children have their own homes- so why aren't they getting free handouts from you like your son is???

HoppingPavlova · 14/04/2024 00:58

I am not worried about noise or house being quiet - they are not particularly noisy

You do realise there will be a newborn who may be screaming at all hours? Your house may get very noisy. It might not stay ‘tidy’ either as baby stuff has a habit of spreading out everywhere.

WonderfulUsername · 14/04/2024 00:58

Your other children have their own homes- so why aren't they getting free handouts from you like your son is???

I guess because right now they don't need them?

They're all adults, the OP isn't dishing out sweeties fairly to children 🙄

DNLove · 14/04/2024 01:00

BettyShagter · 14/04/2024 00:53

WTF?

Is there no scenario in your mind where this grown man will be cooking is own eggs, you know....like grown adults tend to?

In an ideal world this wouldn't be the case but most men revert into "son" mode in their mothers home. Whether calling on Sunday afternoon or living full time. Son starts to cook food mammy steps in to takeover.

HeddaGarbled · 14/04/2024 01:01

My SIL, BIL & children moved in with my MIL when they were temporarily between homes. They did survive but there were tensions and they were all relieved when it came to an end. My MIL’s biggest gripe was how my BIL would dump stuff (shoes, briefcase etc) in the hallway when he got in from work and leave them there until the next day.

You need to be very tolerant and not too house-proud, or you need to have the sort of relationship where you can sort out those sort of minor irritations without one or other of you getting offended.

dirtyblond · 14/04/2024 01:01

Shinyandnew1 · 14/04/2024 00:48

They can't afford to rent their own place right now

With both of them working full time?

How is this going to change/improve if they have a baby?!

they need to save up a deposit and buy. its cheaper than renting, once you have the deposit together

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dirtyblond · 14/04/2024 01:03

DNLove · 14/04/2024 00:48

It sounds ridiculous but it's where they will clash. His mammy says he likes his eggs this way and his partner cooks them the other day. Not so much responsible but competing to be the matriarch under one roof.

we have to avoid any sort of clashing or competition. I have seen this with other family set ups

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CJ0374 · 14/04/2024 01:03

*I guess because right now they don't need them?

They're all adults, the OP isn't dishing out sweeties fairly to children 🙄*

The OP is giving cash to this son in terms of FREE accommodation for a year- if not significantly more! Just because her other children have a house, doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated the same or the others don't need extra money!!!

Aquamarine1029 · 14/04/2024 01:04

dirtyblond · 14/04/2024 01:01

they need to save up a deposit and buy. its cheaper than renting, once you have the deposit together

How is that going to happen in a year? How did they not have substantial savings when only paying rent for a bedsit? I'm thinking there may be some serious issues you know nothing about.

Testina · 14/04/2024 01:06

DNLove · 14/04/2024 01:00

In an ideal world this wouldn't be the case but most men revert into "son" mode in their mothers home. Whether calling on Sunday afternoon or living full time. Son starts to cook food mammy steps in to takeover.

No, most men don’t do that.