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This can't be normal!!!!!??

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Thempolsoltch · 11/04/2024 21:19

I'm an only child and got married 10 months ago. I just turned 30. My husband and I originally planned to ttc straight away, but nothing was happening and around 4 months into the marriage DH said he wanted to wait a little longer for financial reasons. We stopped ttc for 3 months then decided not to waste time and started ttc again.

So my mum and I aren't close and we have had a weird relationship since I was a teen. Shortly after we got married, she said she wanted to know 'where she stood' in terms of my plans to have a family. I told her, at the time, that we were planning to ttc. I didn't tell her when we decided to put a pause button on it as it just seemed a bit tmi but may have mentioned some things that hinted at it. I didn't tell her that we had started ttc again either. I've kept everything vague.

Anyway to add another level of complications, an amazing job opportunity came up on the other side of the country. My current contract is coming to an end so it seemed sensible to look elsewhere. As ttc was up in the air/nothing happening, I decided to go for the new job. I didn't want life to pass me by while ttc and so decided to just keep going with career and baby plans until something happened and deal with it as and when. I got the job and we are moving next month.

My mum has taken that to mean that we've sropped ttc so I can pursue my career and when i told her that 'nothing is happening (ie not getting pregnant)' she snapped at me that 'of course nothing is happening if youre preventing a pregnancy'. I didn't put her straight as it just felt too invasive and i felt shocked at what she said and how annoyed she had seemed. She went to bed in the middle of the afternoon and stayed there all night.

She has basically gone really cold and funny ever since, and has been acting like I've done something wrong, being very quiet and stand offish. I didn't want an argument and assumed I was imagining things so didn't say anything. She gets very defensive so I have to choose my words carefully.

Anyway, recently my dad told me that my cousin who I hardly know but got married a few months before me, was pregnant with her first. He said I couldn't tell mum as it would upset her too much, as I wasn't pregnant yet. He said she is really down about it. I couldn't believe what I was hearing but it all adds up. I think my mum is actually angry with me and really upset for what she thinks is me trying not to get pregnant.

This surely isn't normal? I just don't want to get into my fertility etc with her and I also think its just none of her business. Does she have a right to know the ins and outs of our family planning decisions? Is it courtesy to let potential grandparents know what your intentions are? I feel like she is overstepping by expecting this but not sure if maybe I am being unfair and I shouldn't keep her in limbo? I feel like I'll tell her when I'm ready but feel really reluctant to open up to her about anything at the minute.

This probably makes no sense but I'm very tired so thank you if you got this far!

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Shoxfordian · 12/04/2024 05:22

It's not normal, and it's probably just one example of her behaviour

Listen to the podcast - insight exposing narcissism because some of the examples on there might resonate, there's also a book called you're not the problem

Thempolsoltch · 12/04/2024 05:23

Mum didn't like how my wedding day went and told me she didn't leave the house for a week after it, but she 'should be used to being disappointed by now'. For context, my wedding day was great and lots of people said it was the best they'd ever been to. It was a small and quirky but she didn't like certain aspects and I said I didn't include her enough but I did my best. A few months beforehand we were walking past a jewellery shop and I asked if she wanted to look at wedding rings with me? She snapped 'no!' and said she'd meet me in Tesco when I'd finished. When I met her she had the saddest face and I kind of made a sad face at her as I'd to say 'are you OK?'. She snapped 'Do not mock me!'.

She is very difficult. I'm happy to be moving away actually. Sometimes I think she hates me!

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Thempolsoltch · 12/04/2024 05:24

Shoxfordian · 12/04/2024 05:22

It's not normal, and it's probably just one example of her behaviour

Listen to the podcast - insight exposing narcissism because some of the examples on there might resonate, there's also a book called you're not the problem

Taking notes!! Thanks!

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Thempolsoltch · 12/04/2024 05:27

Shoxfordian · 12/04/2024 05:22

It's not normal, and it's probably just one example of her behaviour

Listen to the podcast - insight exposing narcissism because some of the examples on there might resonate, there's also a book called you're not the problem

Can you remember the name of the author, please?

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Shoxfordian · 12/04/2024 05:31

It's by Helen Villiers and Katie Mckenna, they do the podcast too

Sounds like she didn't like the wedding because it wasn't about her

imforeverblowingbuttons · 12/04/2024 05:32

She sounds like a really difficult person. When you grow up with someone like that it can be hard to know what's normal and what's not as it's all you have known. And it's only when you see relationships played out on tv or speak to other people that you start to think maybe this isn't the norm.

It sounds like moving might be a positive for you. If your mother is pushing boundaries now this may get worse when you have a baby. You might need to be firm with her. Be wary of subjecting your child to too much time with her . Make sure you supervise.

Thempolsoltch · 12/04/2024 05:35

Shoxfordian · 12/04/2024 05:31

It's by Helen Villiers and Katie Mckenna, they do the podcast too

Sounds like she didn't like the wedding because it wasn't about her

There were some legitimate aspects that didn't work as we had hoped and a few things went a amiss but I organised the whole thing myself, on a shoestring and it generally came together really well. It was really different but beautiful. I just cant seem to do anything right without it being a problem. Afterwards she said that she'd no other children so that was the only wedding of her child she would ever have, and that basically I'd messed that up for her. She just keeps saying things to me that make me feel like I've been punched. I don't think it's normal for a mum to make her child feel like this?

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Olika · 12/04/2024 05:38

Congrats on your new job. It's a good decision to take it as you shouldn't put your life on hold while TTC. I did that and I was stuck in a job I was frustrated in for years until we finally conceived. Keep living your life to the max so when you get pregnant you have done everything you wanted to achieve before having a baby.
As everybody has said your mum is unreasonable and moving forwards it's better to be LC and not share anything with her in advance. And even when/if you get pregnant I wouldn't share anything with her until you have had your scans and tests to know all is fine.

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 12/04/2024 05:44

Sounds like she's projecting. Why did she only have you?

BoxOfCats · 12/04/2024 05:45

You need this book:

www.amazon.com/Toxic-Parents-Overcoming-Hurtful-Reclaiming/dp/0553381407

Thempolsoltch · 12/04/2024 05:46

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 12/04/2024 05:44

Sounds like she's projecting. Why did she only have you?

They just weren't able to have more.

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Thempolsoltch · 12/04/2024 05:47

BoxOfCats · 12/04/2024 05:45

Thank you!

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Ohnodontwantthiscrush · 12/04/2024 05:49

Oh OP I want to hug you. She's awful but it's her own stuff, not yours. You don't owe her a child, a wedding or anything else. You are entitled to have those things for yourself. She had her turn. Where she stands indeed! Well done on the job and I hope the TTC goes smoothly to for your sake, not hers!

PenelopeTitsdrop1990 · 12/04/2024 05:50

What?! "Wanted to know where she stood" re your baby plans?! None of her effing business 😲She sounds a bit unhinged. I'd be stepping back. Sorry 😔

BoxOfCats · 12/04/2024 05:52

No problem. I think the section on controlling parents will be an eye opener for you. She is manipulating you.

Thempolsoltch · 12/04/2024 05:53

She is manipulating you.

and has been for a long time but I'm just starting to see it.

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lifesrichpageant · 12/04/2024 05:54

Not normal at all and I am sorry you are going through this. Congratulations on your new job.

RogersOrganismicProcess · 12/04/2024 06:07

Op she sounds incredibly difficult and critical. Sorry she is like this with you. Don’t play along with her games. Give her zero feedback whenever she is controlling or critical. This is about her not you

She made her choices in life, you get to make yours.

MrKDilkington · 12/04/2024 06:13

Jesus, no - not normal! I've been with DH for 20 years, married for 10, and we don't want kids, but we've never had a single conversation about it with any parent!

Honestly, this level of intrusion and entitlement would make me not have kids out of SPITE!

BlastedPimples · 12/04/2024 06:18

Even if you decide to have a baby, what is she going to be like then?

I think your move away is a great idea. And I just wouldn't discuss personal stuff like ttc and plans with her again. None of her business.

Londonnight · 12/04/2024 06:27

No, none of this is normal. My son and DIL were married for 15 years before they had a child [ my grandchild ]. Not once in all that time did I ask whether they would have children as it is none of my business!

Whether you have children or not is up to you, not your mum.

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 12/04/2024 06:31

Your mother does not have a right to know anything you don't want to share with her.

booktokbear · 12/04/2024 06:43

Oh op, I'm glad this thread is helping you.

Her behaviour is shocking and I'm sure there's a long list of things you haven't mentioned.

It REALLY isn't normal. You don't have to put up with it. As hard as I imagine it would be, try and distance yourself a bit (lot)

My close friend's Mum is like this with her and it's so sad and frustrating to witness.

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BeaRF75 · 12/04/2024 06:46

OP, your mother has absolutely no right to know any of this stuff because it's none of her business. If you do have a baby at some point in the future, keep your child as far away from her as possible. Mothers (and, sadly, it usually is mothers) who think their adult child's only function is to provide them with grandchildren are just the worst kind of people.

IAmThe1AndOnly · 12/04/2024 06:49

I would hazard a guess that the reason why you’re an only child is because your mum suffered with secondary infertility and wasn’t able to have ore.

Now she ssees you having a baby almost as her being able to have more babies in her life, iyswim?

I don’t agree with it, it’s not ok or normal even if that’s the case, but could provide an explanation.

I would tell her that your TTC journey is none of her business. If you plan to have children you will and if not then you won’t. And either way it doesn’t affect her.