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This can't be normal!!!!!??

332 replies

Thempolsoltch · 11/04/2024 21:19

I'm an only child and got married 10 months ago. I just turned 30. My husband and I originally planned to ttc straight away, but nothing was happening and around 4 months into the marriage DH said he wanted to wait a little longer for financial reasons. We stopped ttc for 3 months then decided not to waste time and started ttc again.

So my mum and I aren't close and we have had a weird relationship since I was a teen. Shortly after we got married, she said she wanted to know 'where she stood' in terms of my plans to have a family. I told her, at the time, that we were planning to ttc. I didn't tell her when we decided to put a pause button on it as it just seemed a bit tmi but may have mentioned some things that hinted at it. I didn't tell her that we had started ttc again either. I've kept everything vague.

Anyway to add another level of complications, an amazing job opportunity came up on the other side of the country. My current contract is coming to an end so it seemed sensible to look elsewhere. As ttc was up in the air/nothing happening, I decided to go for the new job. I didn't want life to pass me by while ttc and so decided to just keep going with career and baby plans until something happened and deal with it as and when. I got the job and we are moving next month.

My mum has taken that to mean that we've sropped ttc so I can pursue my career and when i told her that 'nothing is happening (ie not getting pregnant)' she snapped at me that 'of course nothing is happening if youre preventing a pregnancy'. I didn't put her straight as it just felt too invasive and i felt shocked at what she said and how annoyed she had seemed. She went to bed in the middle of the afternoon and stayed there all night.

She has basically gone really cold and funny ever since, and has been acting like I've done something wrong, being very quiet and stand offish. I didn't want an argument and assumed I was imagining things so didn't say anything. She gets very defensive so I have to choose my words carefully.

Anyway, recently my dad told me that my cousin who I hardly know but got married a few months before me, was pregnant with her first. He said I couldn't tell mum as it would upset her too much, as I wasn't pregnant yet. He said she is really down about it. I couldn't believe what I was hearing but it all adds up. I think my mum is actually angry with me and really upset for what she thinks is me trying not to get pregnant.

This surely isn't normal? I just don't want to get into my fertility etc with her and I also think its just none of her business. Does she have a right to know the ins and outs of our family planning decisions? Is it courtesy to let potential grandparents know what your intentions are? I feel like she is overstepping by expecting this but not sure if maybe I am being unfair and I shouldn't keep her in limbo? I feel like I'll tell her when I'm ready but feel really reluctant to open up to her about anything at the minute.

This probably makes no sense but I'm very tired so thank you if you got this far!

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ohdofukoff · 11/04/2024 23:05

This would drive me mad too.
I think however that she's wanting to be able to offer support and childcare for you. I guess if she thought you were TTC then she may have declined opportunities in order to make sure that she would be there for you if a baby came along. Eg may have put off booking holidays or such like.
Maybe she feels disgruntled that she may have put on hold plans for you whereas you are now moving away.
Just a thought..
but anyway, would have been better for her to have been open about what she'd like to offer if a baby came along so that you could at least say, that's kind but we wouldn't expect / want that.

CatOnTheLap · 11/04/2024 23:06

None of her business. Is she from a culture where women are expected to marry young, devote themselves to bringing up children and not have a job? Was she always a SAHM and didn’t work?

take the job offer, move to the other side of the country, don’t give her the address, change your names and dye your hair!

ohdofukoff · 11/04/2024 23:07

Oh I just reread and saw that you're not particularly close.. well that's just totally odd behaviour on her part then

determinedtomakethiswork · 11/04/2024 23:14

I wouldn't judge her too harshly. It sounds as though she was very excited at the thought of having a grandchild soon and now you're moving a long way away and seemingly not going to have a family soon. I can understand her disappointment.

She might not have expressed it well and of course she might be a complete lunatic! if she isn't though then I do understand her but think she's going about things the wrong way.

meganorks · 11/04/2024 23:16

Of course its none of her business, but you did kind of set the ball rolling by telling her you were ttc.

Applescruffle · 11/04/2024 23:16

Sounds like she has some wierd sibling rivalry thing going on. She wanted to be a GM before her sibling which is why your dad couldn't tell her cousin is pregnant

Noseybookworm · 11/04/2024 23:35

Has she always been like this? Her behaviour sounds very odd and it sounds like she is fixated on your producing grandchildren for her! I wouldn't be telling her anything further and be glad that you're moving away!

Frangipanyoul8r · 11/04/2024 23:50

She sounds controlling and manipulative, you can’t reason or rationalise with someone like that. It’ll be a status thing - she wants to be the first grandma.

Maray1967 · 12/04/2024 00:03

We had rather intrusive questions about when were we going to get on with it - a year into trying and referral to infertility clinic. The worst offender was FIL who DH shut down very quickly with some vague comment about us having problems and he was not to say anything in front of me. MIL was more subtle but I also left her to DH to deal with.

They were nothing like as bad as your DM sounds, but I did realise that they were expecting GC and seemed to think they had a right to question us.

CRE2024 · 12/04/2024 00:15

She doesn't sound very well. It's not normal to take to your bed when you find out that your daughter might not be having a baby right now! I'd be tempted to let her know that your hope is to have a child at some point in the future BUT that it is also something that is not completely within your control. And be clear that any pressure, comments, or coming down with the vapours on her part will have absolutely no impact on you and your desire or ability to get pregnant, but will make you want to spend less time with her.

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 12/04/2024 00:26

I told my mother that every time she mentioned or hinted about grandchildren I would add a year to the point I made a decision about having one or not. Did the trick.

Mayflower282 · 12/04/2024 00:42

Are you expecting her to do a lot of childcare for you? Maybe she’s stressed and uncertain how much help you want and when, maybe her life feels on hold too and she’s in a bit of an unknown, helpless limbo until she knows what your plans are.

Bluedabadeeba · 12/04/2024 00:46

Oh dear gawwwd. This is where it all starts. The crazy Grandparent. And the baby isn't even born yet! Well, conceived!!!! I'd think hard about the role you want her to play in any future kids' lives. Put boundaries in place now.

Dita73 · 12/04/2024 01:06

Sorry but she sounds nuts! I’m really close to my mum but if she’d have acted like this I’d have looked into having her sectioned! When/If you have children it’s your decision and nothing to do with her. If she really believes that you should organise your life around her desperation to be a grandparent then she’s not only bonkers but unbelievably selfish. Whatever you do don’t back down to her,in fact I’d be inclined to tell her as little as possible. I can’t help but think that if you do have a child she will be an interfering nightmare. If you start putting some boundaries in place now regarding your relationship with her then it will probably be more tolerable in the end

YorkshireWelsh · 12/04/2024 01:10

Ah OP I feel your pain.

Just for some light relief….the only person I told we were planning to ttc was my FIL. Sounds odd, but he was planning MILs big birthday celebration and he was erring towards us all going rally driving / zorbing / etc, you know, not at all pregnancy friendly(!!) and I thought they’d be disappointed and feel bad if I couldn’t join in. - we’re all pretty close. He was happy to plan accordingly which was lucky, as SIL and I were both pregnant by the time the big birthday rolled round! MIL thought she’d won the birthday present lottery, getting told about two new grandchildren 😂

ClareBlue · 12/04/2024 01:11

Not normal and the exact reason nobody should ever discuss family planning outside the two involved or if it's one involved then just them.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 12/04/2024 01:20

She is way out of line. I'd let her sulk and just ignore her. Once she's done sulking I'd actually like it never happened and just shut down any attempt to raise the subject again.

There are circumstances where grandparents do get say, though it's pretty rare, but applied in my case. I'm disabled and really struggled looking after my first as a baby so the my parents and MIL all threw themselves into helping. Given the level of help they gave we did consult them before trying for a second. They were all very enthusiastic about helping again, which is just as well because I was stuck on the sofa from 5 months pregnant and couldn't look after the toddler so they drew up a rota between them.

Probably a bit more information than you needed. I just wanted to demonstrate that the circumstances have to be pretty extreme for grandparents to have a say on TTC.

splashofcolour · 12/04/2024 01:39

LIZS · 11/04/2024 22:30

Oversharing has given her an expectation. Sorry but you have rather brought it on yourself.

No she hasn't! You should be able to tell someone "Yep I'm trying for a baby" without this cu-cu reaction

CurlsnSunshinetime4tea · 12/04/2024 02:14

firstly i have two very close friends who have only children (one a dd and the other a ds) both mothers are extremely invested in their adult (now 38-39) yr old children's lives. fully aware of both ttc and sexual activity or not, fully aware of all finances and fully active in parenting/grandparenting (yes the line is very blurry).
both were extremely anxious to be grandparents. based on my experience mothers of only children often have a very unique relationship.
it was a very long time before i became a grandparent compared to my work colleagues and it was very painful to not have any. my workplace admin assistant younger than me was anxiously expecting grandchild number 13!!! (from 3 sons).
i had zero :(.
so although i fully understand that on mn many will say it's not normal for a parent to be invested want to know etc. my life experience is that many are and many really look forward to the opportunity to grandparent in some form.

Saschka · 12/04/2024 02:33

Your mum is bonkers. None of this is normal.

Spencer0220 · 12/04/2024 02:38

YomAsalYomBasal · 11/04/2024 21:32

No, that's weird. And if she thinks this level of intrusion is normal she will be a very interfering grandmother I expect.

This.

All the best on your ttc journey 🤗

Universalfamily · 12/04/2024 02:43

Two weeks after I married my American husband I took a flight to visit his mum and family for a few days while waiting for my work visa.
As soon as my MIL met me at the airport she greeted me with "Are you pregnant yet?" TWO WEEKS after the wedding.

A few months later she sent me a stack of (unasked for) information in the mail about fertility issues (DH and I were 27). I just sent the entire packet back to her with no comment. A couple of years later she adopted two children and I feel sure she did it because she was so desperate for grandchildren she ended up going to get them herself.

We did have 3 children but the ridiculous comments and pressure from MIL was not remotely helpful! So grateful we lived 2 states away!

SmallIslander · 12/04/2024 02:43

You say you and your Mum aren't close but you seem very willing to share intimate details of your life with her.

It's really no-one else's business but you and your husband. I just told everyone I didn't want kids until I was pregnant and avoided all the invasive questioning.

stargirly · 12/04/2024 03:44

she sounds very controlling and intrusive, hope you’re okay op and she backs off a bit, congratulations on your new job! <3

Thempolsoltch · 12/04/2024 05:15

stargirly · 12/04/2024 03:44

she sounds very controlling and intrusive, hope you’re okay op and she backs off a bit, congratulations on your new job! <3

Thanks all. I've started wondering over the past few years if she is a bit of a narcissist. As I've no siblings I feel like I've nobody to bounce things off and I've been boiled slowly, like the frog.
No she has no friends, job or life outside me and dad.

My cousins mum is my dad's sister, who mum cannot stand.

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