Honour-based crime up 62%

[Papyrophile]

According to the Family Law Centre, honour-based crime in the UK went up 62% from 2020-2022. For explanation, honour-based crime and abuse mostly affects women from SE Asian or Middle Eastern backgrounds where the cultural traditions are very strongly patriarchal, arranged marriages are routine and women are regarded as less important/valuable than men.

As a feminist, this is extraordinarily distasteful to me but I am not affected at all by it. How do other people see the situation?

I see the aftermath of it all

Stats don't surprise me at all on this

Not surprising at all.
Just another way that men find a way to do shit things to women.

No such thing as 'honour based' crime. Violence against women is violence against women. Murder is murder. No honour in either of those. These are not honourable men, They are scum.

Is it that it is has risen by 62% or that the number of women that feel able to report it has gone up? You haven't attached any kind of link so I don't know?

I think as long as hate crime laws exist, that these types of crimes that are specifically perpetrated against women should be included amongst them.

Domestic violence is never Honour based. I hate that term.

Link?

The statement is true https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/07/honour-based-abuse-in-england-increases-60-in-two-years
according to Police but who are "the Family Law Centre"

I wish they’d stop calling it honour crime.
It’s disgraceful how violence towards and murder of women is minimised. Even the language implies it’s deserved and not the fault of the men who (almost always) do it.

I’ve been listening to a podcast on bbc sounds called Assume Nothing (first series). Worth a listen, though horrifying.
A lot about how society justifies and excuses violence towards women in a way that would never happen if the sexes were reversed.

Surely because those populations are growing as a % in the UK, so overall the crimes rose

This.

Did their population grow by 62% then?

Absolutely. The media needs to stop reporting this as "honour" bullshit.

There is no honour involved in this type of crime.

It is hoped that the number has gone up because girls and women are more able to report.

I hate that term

I understand why it's used but I hate it

The cowards that commit this despicable violence towards women have no honour

That's is an element to this that lots of community policing outreach work has taken place, plus additional training for officers and improved recording. Increased figures doesn't always mean an increase in the crime type, it can be seen as a positive that more reports are being made to police and recorded accurately, what I would like to know is the conviction rates attached to those reports

So true, though expect the thread to be deleted since the focus on particular communities makes this is an uncomfortable topic for many

Depressingly predictable piece from the Guardian, though, seeking to blame "global political influences" for what's actually a choice - and an evil one at that

I'm sure I heard something about an increase in this during lockdown, I can't remember if it was 2020 or 2021.

It's an awful thing - abusive men will always find a way to abuse women, but doing it in the name of "honour" is sickening.

I came on to make the exact point that many already have. 'Honour' based my fat arse. There is no honour in abusing and killing women.

I thought I read that media are being encouraged to use a different term? Maybe that notion was on the FWR boards here though, rather than more widespread.

The term is a classification the perpetrators believe something has happened that dishonours the family and the only way that it can be reinstated is by killing the person...normally the female...who brought shame to the family.
The purpose of classification is to help identify individuals who may become at risk and to help them.
Similar to faith based abuse, forced marrage and fgm by understanding the reasons and cultures that are more a risk you can become alert to the indicators and step in.
Can anybody suggest an alternative name that separates this type of abuse to aid identification of risk?

I believe (but am happy to be corrected) so-called honour killings have little to do with honour and are more a reflection of the belief in some cultures, even in this day and age, that women are merely chattels whose lives have no value.

Yes and I would say the violence is rooted in the belief that women's bodies and minds should not be theirs to own and act with, but should be possessed and controlled by males.

Thinking about it, that is probably the basis of most misogynistic violence.

This ten times over.

The real problem here is the expression 'cultural tradition' as a context for abuse and murder.

The issue of 'cultural sensitivity' led to industrial levels of looking-the-other-way when so many girls were being raped in Rotherham, Rochdale, Newcastle, Oxford, Bristol, Aylesbury and so many other places.