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To think some parents can't accept their kids are just normal & average?

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Devonco · 04/04/2024 20:54

In my children's circles there are some parents (very wealthy & highly educated) who refuse to accept their dc are average & normal.
They are constantly complaining their dc aren't pushed enough in school, aren't getting on better in extracurriculars etc.. Throw money at the "problems" then complain..
Also openly despise children who aren't as affluent as theirs surpassing theirs academically & in extracurriculars..
Drives me batty & I feel they should just let their lovely dc at peace & let them find their own path

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CalisthenicsOnDemand · 07/04/2024 17:06

DanielGault · 07/04/2024 17:01

We've tried that but madame made it very clear she had no interest. So we just said ok. But we won't be signing up up to random stuff again. In future I'm going to be properly lead by her or school. I might have wrongly assumed that she'd like music/sport etc because I had as a child. She might just find her own path.

Oh bless! 😂 How frustrating as a parent.
Hopefully she grows into a lovely young lady and one day you'll all laugh about this.
Funnily enough a few acquaintances of mine regret not indulging in these things as carefree teenagers - returning to sport and music as adult hobbies. That still doesn't return the money their poor parents spent on these things though...

DanielGault · 07/04/2024 17:08

CalisthenicsOnDemand · 07/04/2024 17:06

Oh bless! 😂 How frustrating as a parent.
Hopefully she grows into a lovely young lady and one day you'll all laugh about this.
Funnily enough a few acquaintances of mine regret not indulging in these things as carefree teenagers - returning to sport and music as adult hobbies. That still doesn't return the money their poor parents spent on these things though...

Edited

She's done coding and guitar and sports. But seemingly CBA with any of them. But she'll find her way, she's a smart girl. So, we'll just have to wait and see!

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 17:10

I totally agree. These days it seems that if a child is so much as a bookworm they’re a child prodigy.

I have one child who is has an eidetic memory and this makes tests, school work exams etc an absolute doddle - but they have NO common sense.

The other is very very middle of the road, if that, and gets much needed learning support at school for maths.

Im immensely proud of them both because they are sweet, kind loving children not because of what a test result says, and I feel quite bad for the children who have SO much pressure put on them to deliver academic results. I dont think people realise how easily children suffer from burnout

Devonco · 07/04/2024 21:42

Thepeopleversuswork · 07/04/2024 11:36

I'm sure some of the parents you're talking about are just arseholes, but I wonder whether some of them are parents who only know how to use a hammer, when their kid is a screw

This is a really interesting point. I think some nuance is being missed here.

Yes there undoubtedly are some pushy parents who are entitled snobs who are used to being top dog and think they can buy success for their kids.

There are also some people who are academically high achieving for whom this is just the norm: spending money on coaching or music lessons is just what people do and they would feel their kids were missing out if they didn’t support them. And these people as you say often aren’t equipped for a less academic child.

Then there another group of parents who are aspirational for their kids because they lacked these advantages when they were children and don’t want their kids to miss out.

I think also you have to take the chances you have in life. Yes it’s very unlikely your kid will go on to be an elite athlete or a world class violin player but wouldn’t you kick yourself more if you didn’t at least give them the chance to try?

The reality is that it’s a competitive world and children do need to compete. Being sharp elbowed and unrealistic about your kid’s abilities isn’t great. But neither is encouraging mediocrity and inertia in a child with potential.

You broke this down very well!

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Manthide · 08/04/2024 17:01

Dd3 (year 11) attends a private school, I feel she is pretty average (fine by me) but the school seems to think she is highly intelligent. Both her sisters are Oxbridge graduates and one of them was decidedly average. I think there is too much pressure on dc today. When I was doing my O levels I don't remember anyone talking about grade predictions etc. Having happy confident dc is surely the end goal.

Mememe9898 · 08/04/2024 18:25

Worriemumma · 04/04/2024 21:02

Oh my gosh YES!!! Yes a million times over. Teacher in a private school (reception, no less... they're 4) and the amount of pressure and the expectations some parents have. So so rarely do I get a parent who says they just want their child to be happy, when surely a child who is kind and happy is honestly the best thing you could ask for? It makes me want to scream. As the mother of a child who nearly died due to severe birth injury and has subsequent lifelong disabilities, I just want to shake these people and say you have a darling happy and healthy child, why is that not enough??

And, in my less charitable moments, I want to tell them you can't make a silk purse out if a sows ear... And that's ok. There's nothing wrong with sows ears!

My kids are not privately educated (yet) but if they were I’d want them to do well academically as I’d be paying over £50k a year for this for two kids. It’s all well and good saying you want them to be happy of course you do but you also want to get your return on investment.
I’m not privately educated but through sheer resilience and hard work find myself working with people who have been educated to a high standard achieving top degrees. I’ve also done the same but started from the very bottom.
Im planning to save to put my kids in private school and will be expecting them to take their education seriously. They need to understand the investment that’s gone into them and put the effort in. I’m also prepared to take them out if they felt that they didn’t want the extra pressure too.

poppymango · 25/07/2024 15:07

FanofLeaves · 04/04/2024 20:56

In my experience as a nanny- private school children aren’t allowed to be average.

My friends children go to a private school where the tagline on the website is “excellence for all”, which I think is hilarious but absolutely illustrates your point.

mrsmiawallace3 · 25/07/2024 19:22

The fact is, Capitalism has spectacularly failed to ensure that only the offspring of the wealthy get to be brainy 😏

Devonco · 26/07/2024 00:45

Seedpods · 04/04/2024 23:51

No, I think they’re paying for a silk purse to be made out of their sow’s ear, and that’s why I keep seeing outrage on here about Oxbridge attempts to widen participation, because they see it as disadvantaging their carefully-tended offspring whose advantage they’ve worked hard and paid for, after all. As they see it. I think it’s as much about social anxiety as it is arrogance, though. There’s a terrible aspirational worry about their children being ‘left behind’ by others who are ‘doing well’.

This is it in a nutshell!

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Serencwtch · 26/07/2024 12:04

Devonco · 04/04/2024 21:36

It's just the level of entitlement from certain parents that gets me!
They expect their child will be musical & blame the music teacher when their child is not. The most musical kids in dc's school are Eastern European, these kids seem to have a natural flair for music & always play solos in the school concerts. Their parents have explained they themselves had rigorous training as children in Eastern Europe & can help the children practice at home which speeds up progress .. The pushy parents just blame the teachers when there's lack of progress as they are just entitled enough to think their child should be fantastic as they are paying & because they themselves are highly educated parents..

That's just weird & racist. Where on earth have you got your evidence about some races or nationalities being superior in some abilities?!

Quatty · 26/07/2024 12:55

poppymango · 25/07/2024 15:07

My friends children go to a private school where the tagline on the website is “excellence for all”, which I think is hilarious but absolutely illustrates your point.

Yeah, the amount of privately educated children who are ‘exceptional’ really is odd… private schools are the least competitive places too… if you want real competition for your child then state school is best for this, with kids from a range of backgrounds, some with true competitive grit.
Our football team recently played the first team of a local private secondary and absolutely battered them. The trials for our team were genuinely competitive, with 50+ children trying out for the A team. The private schools ‘first’ team were clearly just the 15 or so kids who fancied a go. Or perhaps with such small numbers in the year those genuinely were the best players they had.

We compete at schools, cup and county level - there are rarely Private schools who qualify, and at ‘schools’ level they generally just play other private schools.

TheaBrandt · 26/07/2024 13:00

They all got annihilated in netball too. Now the private schools just stick to just playing the other private schools - where we live anyway.

poppymango · 26/07/2024 13:09

Serencwtch · 26/07/2024 12:04

That's just weird & racist. Where on earth have you got your evidence about some races or nationalities being superior in some abilities?!

Eh? She didn't say that at all.

She said the most musical kids in her dc's school happen to be from eastern Europe, and that this is specifically because their parents had a strong emphasis on music growing up and spend more time practicing with their kids at home. More practice = more skill. Not inherent ability based on race.

Quatty · 26/07/2024 13:14

Serencwtch · 26/07/2024 12:04

That's just weird & racist. Where on earth have you got your evidence about some races or nationalities being superior in some abilities?!

Yeah, that’s a bit odd - the best musicians in our DCs are the ones who started young and/or practice at lot!
Both our DC plays instruments to a high level - mainly because we encouraged them to at a younger age and made them practice.

Theres one kid at school, who is concert level violin - his mum is a piano and violin teacher. They’re not Eastern European 😅

Quatty · 26/07/2024 13:18

TheaBrandt · 26/07/2024 13:00

They all got annihilated in netball too. Now the private schools just stick to just playing the other private schools - where we live anyway.

it’s the same in all sports, friends DD is very sporty, in all the teams, private school. They spend half a day travelling to play another private school when there is brilliant interschools competition leagues in our city.
They don’t seem to want to play against teams who will
actually give them a challenge. Weird, given how ‘rounded’ they tend to say their experiences are at these schools…

honestyISkind · 26/07/2024 13:18

Not some. Most.

TheaBrandt · 26/07/2024 13:25

I kind of get it - they’ll get their arse kicked and won’t even get a fancy tea. Fair enough to want to avoid!

Bluevelvetsofa · 26/07/2024 13:35

In any curve distribution, there will be those who are at one end and those who are at the other, with the majority either side of the middle.

I’ve seen a child at private school who was so worried by the class lists posted at the school entrance every week, that he developed tics. He was terrified of not doing well in the weekly test and moving down.

If children are happy, surely they will be able to perform better, because they feel comfortable and valued by their school and their parents.

Many children who are privately educated are trained by parents and tutors to get the points necessary for acceptance in the school of their choice. Thats fine, but without a degree of innate ability, they’re going to find it really difficult to cope in a pressurised highly academic environment.

Whatifthehokeycokey · 28/07/2024 11:13

So far my kid has been average in every way: weight, height, development. Obviously I think he's special in the sense he's very special to me and his Dad and we adore him, but objectively always around 50th percentile in most things.

I was the kid labelled as gifted, moved up a year in school, so much pressure to excel, addicted to achieving things and hit burn out in my 20s. I don't want that for my children. I just want them to be happy and find their niche in life, and have fulfilling relationships.

malificent7 · 28/07/2024 11:18

I went to private school ( dad taught there so I got money off) and I think my parents mistakenly thought that money in = better outcomes.
No...just normal me. Even some of my peers called me normal. I'll take that as a compliment.

TheaBrandt · 28/07/2024 11:21

Honestly some would dream of an “average”
kid. Friends perfect sports playing swotty dd spiralled out of control as teen it’s terrifying been expelled etc life is now very different for them as a family. They would LOVE her to be an average kid. Count your blessings.

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