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To have “ruined” my MIL’s relationship with her son?

327 replies

RareLilacExpert · 04/04/2024 18:34

A few months ago, whilst staying at my MIL’s house for her birthday, I was left alone with her and my DD for ~4 hrs (my DH and FIL went to a local football game). During this time, my DD refused to eat what was offered - not my choice of food for her, but a meal my MIL insisted upon (red flag 1).

I told MIL it was okay for DD not to eat her food, that we never put pressure on her to eat. DD asked me if she could get down and I said that she could.

MIL told me I was “letting a three year old rule the roost and needed to be in charge or she’d never learn.” I calmly explained we (meaning her son and I, my DD’s parents) were choosing to parent in this particular way and were responding to our child’s needs. I reiterated it was absolutely fine for DD not to want to eat, that she had days of feeling hungrier than others.

At this, MIL marched across the room, grabbed DD and attempted to manhandle her to the table. I raised my voice, told her to put my DD down and walk away. MIL did not. I shouted louder and MIL put DD down, she ran to me and we left the house to sit in the car. We only went back in for bath and bedtime, during which time I messaged my DH and he came home. He spoke to her, but when I saw her later this evening she did not even acknowledge the incident, let alone apologise.

The following day was her birthday meal, after which we got ready to leave (we were supposed to be staying a further night). This was when she spoke to me finally and I told her we were leaving because of her unacceptable behaviour towards my DD and myself, with no intention to apologise.

When we returned home, we did not speak for a further week, after which time I messaged outlining exactly the issues I had and what needed to change (respect, appreciation of different parenting styles, never touching my DD in this way again) before we would see her again. She rang and claimed she had “no idea she was so bad” and I “just needed to tell her when she was being unreasonable and she would stop.” I asked her if she was being racist, was it the victim’s responsibility to tell her she was wrong, or hers to think before she spoke/acted? She told me I was being oversensitive.

Ever since, we have not seen them. I cancelled a night away in which she was supposed to be babysitting, and I have now been accused of “ruining her relationship with her son and grandchild”, which tells me she still takes no responsibility. My DH is definitely ‘on my side’ and has spoken to her a few times but ultimately feels I need to let it go because ‘this is just the way she is’.

Am I being over sensitive here?

OP posts:
StarlightLime · 05/04/2024 15:32

Written apology... 🤦‍♀️

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 15:36

StarlightLime · 05/04/2024 15:32

Written apology... 🤦‍♀️

Of course. It’s called making an effort. I’d expect nothing less than a letter apologising.

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 15:38

StarlightLime · 05/04/2024 15:32

Written apology... 🤦‍♀️

i went to post but then thought… what’s the point. As if that poster would do that in RL!

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 15:39

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 15:36

Of course. It’s called making an effort. I’d expect nothing less than a letter apologising.

you’d demand one?

well that would be an authentic and meaningful apology wouldn’t it?! 😆

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 15:39

@ButterCrackers

have you ever demanded a written apology?

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 15:40

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 15:39

you’d demand one?

well that would be an authentic and meaningful apology wouldn’t it?! 😆

For a situation as serious as this I would. Perhaps you’d just be happy with a text or a sorry but not me. This MIL needs to think through her actions. A bully needs to be tackled.

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 15:41

Yes. I have. Have you?

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 15:41

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 15:39

@ButterCrackers

have you ever demanded a written apology?

Yes I have. Have you?

StarlightLime · 05/04/2024 15:42

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 15:41

Yes. I have. Have you?

🤣

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 15:42

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 15:41

Yes I have. Have you?

Edited

good grief no!!!

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 15:43

it’s not about the method of apology

it’s about whether i would think it was sincere and heartfelt

and if you have to demand something then very likely not going to be sincere and heartfelt!

Freddie289 · 05/04/2024 15:45

Polishedshoesalways · 05/04/2024 06:53

A child of three is assaulted to the extent of a nursery logged bruise that may result in consultation with safe guarding SS and some pp are telling op to move on and stop being dramatic?!

This is distinctly off for MN and not the usual response at all.

Edited

Agree with you absolutely, I'm disgusted by some posters on here justifying dominating and physically abusive behaviour when there is so much research showing this is damaging to children and does not lead to improved behaviour. Shame on them.

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 15:45

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 15:43

it’s not about the method of apology

it’s about whether i would think it was sincere and heartfelt

and if you have to demand something then very likely not going to be sincere and heartfelt!

I wrote the word « ask » - you have written « demand ». Two different concepts. Mine is based on politeness.

Sureaseggs44 · 05/04/2024 15:51

Iwasafool · 05/04/2024 14:44

My parents also lived through the war but they would never have tried to force a child to eat food they didn't like/want. They wouldn't have let us go hungry either. It wasn't an issue with me but my sibling was a fussy eater and would be offered cereal/toast/sandwich if they didn't like a meal. Your parents might not have understood choice but that wasn't the fault of the war.

Yes but everyone is different though . My husband had one auntie who gave them a cereal like weetabix and if they did not eat it it was bought out cold at every meal until they did .they just could not abide waste .

I never said it was right , I was not excusing the behaviour just saying “ choice “ was not always a thing .

🙄

StarlightLime · 05/04/2024 15:52

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 15:45

I wrote the word « ask » - you have written « demand ». Two different concepts. Mine is based on politeness.

You agreed that you had demanded a written apology.
Was it from your mother in law?

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 15:52

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 15:45

I wrote the word « ask » - you have written « demand ». Two different concepts. Mine is based on politeness.

when you wrote your letter of apology…. had it been asked for?

Sureaseggs44 · 05/04/2024 15:53

Freddie289 · 05/04/2024 15:45

Agree with you absolutely, I'm disgusted by some posters on here justifying dominating and physically abusive behaviour when there is so much research showing this is damaging to children and does not lead to improved behaviour. Shame on them.

Why did they not point it out to the nursery when they went in ?

I did not see anyone excusing that part of the behaviour tbh .

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 15:54

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 15:45

I wrote the word « ask » - you have written « demand ». Two different concepts. Mine is based on politeness.

i’d expect nothing less. has the ring of a demand about it

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 15:57

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 15:52

when you wrote your letter of apology…. had it been asked for?

I have asked for a letter of apology - as I wrote on the thread previously. I have never been asked to write one. How about you?

Sureaseggs44 · 05/04/2024 15:57

godmum56 · 05/04/2024 14:57

this.

They never forced us . Never said that . But meals were put out and we were not given snacks or alternatives. That’s all .

we ate a healthy diet .

not special food for children

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 15:58

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 15:57

I have asked for a letter of apology - as I wrote on the thread previously. I have never been asked to write one. How about you?

Edited

neither

so…. when you asked for a written apology

had they verbally apologised before you requested it in writing? if so, had you felt it was sincere? do you still have the letter?

im fascinated!

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 16:02

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 15:58

neither

so…. when you asked for a written apology

had they verbally apologised before you requested it in writing? if so, had you felt it was sincere? do you still have the letter?

im fascinated!

That’s not to do with this post and would derail it.

brocollilover · 05/04/2024 16:04

ButterCrackers · 05/04/2024 16:02

That’s not to do with this post and would derail it.

ah enough said 😆

Freddie289 · 05/04/2024 16:12

Sureaseggs44 · 05/04/2024 15:53

Why did they not point it out to the nursery when they went in ?

I did not see anyone excusing that part of the behaviour tbh .

There have been numerous posts saying that OP is being dramatic in her response to MIL, that MIL just has a different parenting style (implying that OP should just accept this), even that DD will grow up to be entitled! To me this is brushing off the MIL's behaviour and even justifying it

godmum56 · 05/04/2024 16:19

Sureaseggs44 · 05/04/2024 15:57

They never forced us . Never said that . But meals were put out and we were not given snacks or alternatives. That’s all .

we ate a healthy diet .

not special food for children

so it was eat or starve?

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