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To not want to go to Rome with Mil

278 replies

theotherfossilsister · 03/04/2024 09:27

Mil can be very nice. She is great with ds, but there is a lot of tension between us. Dp is an only child and his dad died in November. We went to stay with her for two weeks after this although we live in the same city. I understand why. It was a big trauma for her and dp. My own dad died when I was pregnant with ds which was also hard, but I was very focused on the pregnancy then. I'm also one of four and lucky to have a brother who lives near my mum and supported her. I know it's harder for only children. My mum lives in France so it's a long way to go.

Mil and sadly fil to an extent massively overstepped when ds was born. He was in neonatal for a long stay and they'd turn up when they knew I had my breastfeeding support, and insist on coming in, so I had to go and sit in the pumping room while they held ds. Dp didn't stand up to me and I felt very vulnerable. Later I ended up in mother and baby unit.

There were other things too, like during my pregnancy I broke my arm and shoulder and could literally do nothing for myself but the week I had surgery for it they decided to go to Fils home town for two nights and take dp. They said it was very important dp went as his dad was ill, etc, but I was having a general anaesthetic (really bad break otherwise they'd not have done it when pregnant.) In the end the consultant told dp he needed to stay, and sadly for pils fil was too unwell to go anyway.

Stupid little things like this still really rankle still. It feels like mil doesn't see me as important.

I'm currently really agorophobic but working with an OT on exposure therapy. One of the things which feeds agrophobia is shame so I'm trying really hard to not be ashamed, but mil doesn't believe my agrophobia is real. I have an exaggerated freeze reflex where I literally freeze so hard that I fall over and I am carry a walking stick for this, recommend, but mil is disgusted by this. I'm working on getting well so hard and also on accepting and coexisting with the agrophobia.

It's really hard but I'm making progress

Dp wants to take Mil to Rome at the end of this month, and as it's important to her that DS comes I need to come as well, because I simply cannot be away from my twenty month old for five nights. I'm dreading this trip but understand it's something mil needs after her bereavement.

I also have limited annual leave and I'm trying to use it to write. Lots going on. I'm dreading this trip though

And yes, I know Rome is lovely.

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Devon1987 · 03/04/2024 09:30

Just no, your wet lettuce of a dp has not advocated for you one bit. You are the mother of his child, his partner.
he can take his mum but you and your ds will be starting home.
mil sounds awful, put boundaries in now.

RoderickHosclassicblackhoodie · 03/04/2024 09:33

Your dp's an utter prick.

theotherfossilsister · 03/04/2024 09:34

Thank you. It's hard because it means a lot to her to have ds there and dp says he'd love Rome, although I don't think he'd understand it at his age.

The walking stick is recommended by ot but as I look healthy I do struggle to explain it to people. Dp says he'll have a proper chat with mil about why I need it and she mustn't be critical but he keeps putting it off

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Laiste · 03/04/2024 09:37

Dp wants to take Mil to Rome at the end of this month and as it's important to her that DS comes I need to come as well

Tough. DS needs to be with you and you don't want to go.

The adults will have to wait till the baby is older.

LipstickLil · 03/04/2024 09:38

Your DS is far too young to enjoy a trip to Rome and quite honestly while your MIL might want him there, he'll just spoil what your MIL wants to do, which I presume is to sight see, eat nice food in the sunshine, etc. A 20-month-old is just about the least relaxing companion I could imagine on a cultural city break!

As for your DP - yup he's a 24-carat prick.

Laiste · 03/04/2024 09:38

Tell DH he can take his mother where he likes but he doesn't dictate to you where you go and he doesn't get to hold you to ransom over your child.

Fuck that.
This has made me cross for you!!

HermioneWeasley · 03/04/2024 09:38

Rome with a 20 month old will be a nightmare- they won’t be remotely interested in the sights, there’s loads of steps so not buggy friendly and zero public toilets if you need to change a nappy etc.

if your MIL wants a break away with everyone then she needs to pick a toddler suitable location

birdling · 03/04/2024 09:38

A 20 month old will definitely not 'love Rome', and will probably be very hard work.
Tell DH that he can go, but you and baby are staying at home.

BloodyAdultDC · 03/04/2024 09:39

Your ds is 20 months old, Rome is (without the rose tinted specs) a pile of old rocks. Ds won't have a clue.

This holiday is entirely for mil. Don't go. Don't let ds go. Your dh needs to get a backbone and tell mil you ARE his priority.

theotherfossilsister · 03/04/2024 09:39

Thank you. How do I get out of it? I've told dp that the badly don't want to go but he's welcome to go with mil, and he just says there's no point then and he'll just have to disappoint his mum.

We have relationship counselling today.

Things are complicated by the fact that dp visited my own mum with me last month in France

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Justkoko · 03/04/2024 09:40

Rome is beautiful but involves a heck of a lot of walking and queuing. I'd think a 20 month old would get pretty fed up.
Mil does not get to dictate to you and dp needs to step up!

Laiste · 03/04/2024 09:41

he just says there's no point then and he'll just have to disappoint his mum.

Well that's the end of the conversation then. If that's the way he wants to play it let him. Don't let him emotionally blackmail you. Assume the subject is finished.

Good luck with the relationship counceling.

HummingbirdChandelier · 03/04/2024 09:41

Laiste · 03/04/2024 09:38

Tell DH he can take his mother where he likes but he doesn't dictate to you where you go and he doesn't get to hold you to ransom over your child.

Fuck that.
This has made me cross for you!!

This. He’s an arse

Hoppinggreen · 03/04/2024 09:42

Your DP is awful.
You wont be disappointing his mum he will by not going with her (although it sounds like he should be supporting you instead).
He is pathetic and needs to grow the F up and put his family first

Lemsipper · 03/04/2024 09:42

I don’t even know you, but after reading that I just have the strongest urge to wrap you up in cotton wool and take care of you 🥲 why isn’t your husband having the same urge? You’ve been through so much, yet you still try to see things from others point of view and approach situations with empathy.

Your husband is not being a good one. Yes his MIL is having a rough time with the death of her husband but my goodness, so are you!!! Im so sorry OP, I do not think you should go to Rome. You do not need to feel bad about saying no.

You deserve better OP, I know it’s unsolicited but in my heart I just want to tell you to run away from this man and never look back 😞

geoger · 03/04/2024 09:43

Your DP is being ridiculous and childish. Rome is no place for a 20 month old. Tell him he can go on his own with his mum. Don’t let him emotionally blackmail you into doing something you will find physically exhausting.

Aquamarine1029 · 03/04/2024 09:43

Relationship counseling with this man is a massive waste of time. He's fucking terrible.

theotherfossilsister · 03/04/2024 09:44

Thank you. Yeah I think they'd get nice photos him at historical sites and stuff but mostly he'd be difficult because he's so young. Dp did say we can give him an hour in a playground every day to make him easier, but I feel like it will be so so hard. He's easygoing for a child that age but I think he might kick off at site seeing and restaurants.

It will also be significantly cheaper for the two of them to go, ds can continue at nursery and I can use the time to really focus on writing and exposure therapy.

I'm totally being framed as the horrible person who's taking away mil's holiday if I don't go though, and dp has said he won't go without ds.

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NevergonnagiveHughup · 03/04/2024 09:44

I am so annoyed for you just reading this. Your DP is an arse of a mummy’s boy and he either steps up to prioritise his family over his mum or you will have no long-term future.

You need to be crystal clear with him on this.

Good luck OP - you need it.

Laiste · 03/04/2024 09:45

Aquamarine1029 · 03/04/2024 09:43

Relationship counseling with this man is a massive waste of time. He's fucking terrible.

Agree with this, to be honest OP.

It's hard to hear but he's a shit husband.

Do the counseling, know you tried, don't feel bad if it doesn't work out and you split up in a few years.
IT'S NOT YOU.
Flowers

NevergonnagiveHughup · 03/04/2024 09:46

He needs to tell MIL that DS isn’t going. End of. Rome is no place for a 20-month old.

That said your statement that “you can’t be away from him for 5 days” is also a bit concerning. If he’s with his other parent, why not?

Ridiculous24 · 03/04/2024 09:46

Why can't mil be disappointed?? We all have disappointments in life, especially when what we want is unrealistic. It's not even about Rome or anything else. Its a power struggle. Yes she will have to be disappointed.

Your relationship sounds like it's in shaky ground if he can't stand up to her.

HummingbirdChandelier · 03/04/2024 09:46

I’d go for counselling for you @theotherfossilsister , not relationship counselling.

And there’s a great book on boundaries which really helped me along with counselling.

To not want to go to Rome with Mil
Notinthemood12 · 03/04/2024 09:46

Why did you go abroad with your own mum and now don’t want to go to Rome for his mum? Has something happened in between

Marblessolveeverything · 03/04/2024 09:47

My goodness you have been through a lot in a very short time. You need peace, routine and support to help you finish your recovery.

Your DP needs to step up and prioritise you and his child.