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Unwanted "friend"

195 replies

WalkingIntoSpiderwebs · 30/03/2024 12:46

Just a heads up, this will be long and make me sound like a complete cow, but TLDR version, how do you remove someone from your life without causing upset to both them and others?

A few months back, my friend and I were chatting and she was talking about a male friend of hers who was having a rough time (used and dumped etc).
She then had this bright idea that because the male friend and I shared the same hobbies and interests, I should be his friend to cheer him up "and maybe it might turn into more".

At this point I will mention that I am very happily single, have no intention of dating for a long time (if ever) and I have social anxiety so honestly, I prefer my own company! I have 3 children who use up every ounce of my "peopling" quota.

I was very open, told her all of the above, that I am NOT interested in a relationship but if he understands that then fine, we can message a bit so he's not lonely.

Well, that was a massive mistake. The guy has been messaging me morning, noon and night ever since.
Not replying until I'm ready to chat doesn't work, he just keeps sending more and more messages about what he's doing, what he's watching, what he's eating... It's constant.
Not only this but he wants to meet up for coffee or hobbies every single week. I don't see anyone (family, best friend etc) as often as once a week, I really really don't want to and it is massively stressing me out.

I mentioned to my friend that he's a bit full on "oh but he's lovely though isn't he??". Mentioned I thought he seemed a bit too keen "well that's cynical, men and women CAN just be friends". I'm well aware they CAN just be friends, but this isn't friends, it feels borderline obsessive on his part.

Another issue, and the one that will make me sound like an ungrateful cow, is that he keeps buying me things! He bought me a Christmas present when we hadn't even known eachother at Christmas?! We didn't start talking until January! Then in February was my birthday, he spent loads! There's a new gift of some sort every single week without fail.
If I say I can't meet up until after payday, he offers to pay.
It all sounds so sweet doesn't it? But it's not!
He's not buying me gifts, he's buying me obligations. Obligations to talk to him, obligations to meet up etc.
The narrative was that his ex used him for gifts and then left, but honestly I think he just kept throwing gifts at her and felt used when she'd had enough.

I've asked him not to buy me things, told him I prefer to pay my own way. The most recent was that I told him I liked something he'd made (you know, just a compliment because it was genuinely good), within 3 days he'd made me one too. Again, makes him sound lovely but it's just too much.

I'm suffocating and I don't know what to do about it. YES, he's a nice person but it's so full on and I'm not coping.
The reactions from my friend so far have made it clear that I'm going to be the bad guy if I don't keep talking to him. I don't have a clue how to dial this way waaaayyyy back without upsetting him either.

I have gently told him variations of "can we leave it til next week, I've had no time to myself and I'm exhausted" etc. I work night shifts so I truly am exhausted a lot, physically and mentally.

Any help? Please??

YABU - you should embrace the friendship, stop being a cow, he's nice but lonely

YANBU - this sounds suffocating (and any advice how to escape please)

Sorry it was so long!

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WalkingIntoSpiderwebs · 30/03/2024 13:53

PassingStranger · 30/03/2024 13:44

Why on earth did you go down this road in the first place?
Make it clear to people at the start your not interested.
Good luck getting rid, you'll need it.
Reminds me of so.eone I knew once who gave a man at a disco her phone number then didn't like it when he contacted her??
Don't give your number out then.

Because I honestly had no idea what he was like!

I am more than happy to message anyone, male or female, especially someone in a bad place. What I wasn't expecting is this level of obsessive contact.

I don't think it's comparable to the giving out your phone number on a night out scenario. If a guy asks for your number on a night out, you can be fairly certain of what he's after! This was meant to be chatting about shared interests with someone down on their luck.

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IncompleteSenten · 30/03/2024 13:56

You should return his gifts and tell him he is overwhelming and you can't deal with it.

StormingNorman · 30/03/2024 13:58

Could you be more blunt and less polite?

I’m not in the headspace for a relationship and can’t give you what you need. You should find someone who wants the same things as you.

0sm0nthus · 30/03/2024 13:58

You say that you have considered changing your work hours so that you're not off at the same time as him, you speak as if you are obliged to respond to him unless you have a cast iron reason that means you can't.
You have no obligations to him just tell him you're not available, stop responding to him.

0sm0nthus · 30/03/2024 14:00

The so-called friend that put this leech on to you, how about you tell the leech that the so-called friend fancies the pants off him😈

TheShellBeach · 30/03/2024 14:01

Just send him a message telling him you're going out with someone else.

Then block him. Everywhere.

I'd also be inclined to block the friend that set you up. But I'm like that. 🤣

WalkingIntoSpiderwebs · 30/03/2024 14:02

IncompleteSenten · 30/03/2024 13:56

You should return his gifts and tell him he is overwhelming and you can't deal with it.

With his latest gift (the one he made) I've actually been unenthusiastic and told him "oh I didn't expect you to make one for me, you should sell it on eBay, you'll easily get a buyer!". His next message completely ignored what I had said and he mentioned he'd added a different thing to it for me...

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WalkingIntoSpiderwebs · 30/03/2024 14:03

Thanks for all the blunter messages too, I do indeed need to grow a pair and tell him that it's all too much (and then get an imaginary boyfriend for good measure!)

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PassingStranger · 30/03/2024 14:05

WalkingIntoSpiderwebs · 30/03/2024 13:53

Because I honestly had no idea what he was like!

I am more than happy to message anyone, male or female, especially someone in a bad place. What I wasn't expecting is this level of obsessive contact.

I don't think it's comparable to the giving out your phone number on a night out scenario. If a guy asks for your number on a night out, you can be fairly certain of what he's after! This was meant to be chatting about shared interests with someone down on their luck.

You say you honestly had no idea what he was like, that's why you don't give personal details out then.
A learning curve here no doubt.

underthemilky · 30/03/2024 14:06

Tell him you made it clear to matchmaker friend that you had limited time for new friendships but were happy to chat occasionally but his friendship demands are way more than you are able to cope with.

Incase matchmaker friend told him something else .

ClockworkDisaster · 30/03/2024 14:07

Oh he sounds like a creepy person wearing a nice person mask. I am also rubbish at standing up for myself too and these people are my nightmare. They make you feel awful for saying no to them but they never see how overbearing they are themselves.

MyNameIsFine · 30/03/2024 14:07

Why did your friend put you in this situation? You're a mother with three children - you don't have time for this! If your friend wanted to cheer him up, why didn't she message him herself? Expecting a complete stranger to cheer somebody up is batshit in the first place.

Riverlee · 30/03/2024 14:11

ClockworkDisaster · 30/03/2024 14:07

Oh he sounds like a creepy person wearing a nice person mask. I am also rubbish at standing up for myself too and these people are my nightmare. They make you feel awful for saying no to them but they never see how overbearing they are themselves.

Sums it up nicely.

LookItsMeAgain · 30/03/2024 14:12

You send him a message (as that is the preferred mode of communication working for him) saying that you enjoyed (even if you didn't) spending time with him up to now but you don't see a long term relationship developing between you both and you're not interested in meeting up with him again romantically.
Then you block his number.

You tell your other match-making friend that you do not want her to set you up with any more of her friends or colleagues and tell her that things weren't working out between you and her mate.

If needs be, block or mute her on social media and on your phone too.

PoochiesPinkEars · 30/03/2024 14:18

Him and your friend are of the not listening variety... Utterly numb/deaf to someone else's pov, needs or reasonable expectations.

Personally I'd peel them both off my hide and walk on in life free of these people who think nothing of loading expectations onto me which suit them and only them.

If you want to be really nice (and neither deserve those especially) you could say to your friend that if she thinks he's so lovely, she can keep him company but you're out.

Pull the shutters down before you have a serious stalking situation on your hands, his attention is completely out of balance and driven entirely by his internal narrative/personal wishes and nothing to do with the chemistry/connection/availability of you... You're just a vessel he can pour his attention into, if he has any thought for you he'd listen to your responses and match your energy. He's not bothered he's trampling over your sensibilities.

TheShellBeach · 30/03/2024 14:27

Just block him!

BronzeAge · 30/03/2024 14:34

Watchkeys · 30/03/2024 12:57

Just tell him. You're not a facilitator to enable other people to have a nice life that goes exactly as they want it. You've got your own life to look after.

This. And then block him. You should have told her no when she first mentioned it. Some total stranger’s loneliness isn’t your problem. Especially as it’s now very clear to you why he may be ‘lonely’, and in fact why he may have been dumped in the first place. If he’s this bullnecked, insensitive and suffocating with someone he barely knows, imagine what he’s like as a boyfriend!

And you’re absolutely correct in your recognition that this type of person in buying you things is actually buying you obligations to him. It’s a particularly wrongheaded manifestation of the people-pleasing impulse — in his view, he’s ’being a good friend’ and when you block him he’ll say ‘but I did EVERYTHING for her! I was a great friend, and she’s ungrateful!’

FictionalCharacter · 30/03/2024 14:40

PoochiesPinkEars · 30/03/2024 14:18

Him and your friend are of the not listening variety... Utterly numb/deaf to someone else's pov, needs or reasonable expectations.

Personally I'd peel them both off my hide and walk on in life free of these people who think nothing of loading expectations onto me which suit them and only them.

If you want to be really nice (and neither deserve those especially) you could say to your friend that if she thinks he's so lovely, she can keep him company but you're out.

Pull the shutters down before you have a serious stalking situation on your hands, his attention is completely out of balance and driven entirely by his internal narrative/personal wishes and nothing to do with the chemistry/connection/availability of you... You're just a vessel he can pour his attention into, if he has any thought for you he'd listen to your responses and match your energy. He's not bothered he's trampling over your sensibilities.

Edited

Spot on.

anareen · 30/03/2024 14:43

That sounds bad all around. Block him and get rid of your friend too. They are both overstepping boundaries and not being considerate of you at all!

anareen · 30/03/2024 14:45

Possibly send him a text erring him now you do not wish to continue this friendship and to not contact you anymore. If he does, document and get a restraining order.

rustlerwaiter · 30/03/2024 14:49

Sounds like a real oddball. Might be best to just cut him out, tell him he's overstepping and go NC.

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 30/03/2024 14:50

"Look, I'm not sure where you think this friendship is heading, but I am not interested in a romantic relationship with you, and the amount of texting and gift giving etc is far too much for an ordinary friendship, so I'm stepping away now."

MollyButton · 30/03/2024 14:50

Message for all women and girls: You Don't have to be NICE!

If you know his address then bag up all his gifts and dump them on his doorstep. If not dump them on your "friend".
Bluntly tell him you don't want a relationship and as he isn't listening you are blocking him. Then block his number.
Also tell this to your "friend". She hasn't been listening to you or being a friend.
Then get on with your life, there is nothing wrong with being anti-social

Coldupnorth87 · 30/03/2024 14:52

Dump both of them!

WhatTheFuckIsThat · 30/03/2024 14:56

Simply tell the bloke you've got a boyfriend/you prefer women/you're studying/you're very busy with your children/you're seeing your family - anything.