To want every women in England to vote Tory at the GR

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So I don't agree with Angela Rayner's description of the Tories as scum, but I get her drift and if she'd been more tempered in her language I probably would have bought in.

HOWEVER

For me - and actually should be got everyone - the only real issue at the next GE is freedom of speech/women's rights.

I see Labour as the destroyer of these and so must vote against them. The only meaningful way to do this is to vote Tory which I am reluctant but prepared to do.

Is this unreasonable?

Happy to be convinced - for real not just words - if there is evidence Labour (Starmer 1 in 1000 women have a dick) may see the light before the GE.

Who has been in government for the last 14 years? I think in that time women’s rights have taken a massive step back.

I teach - we have unisex toilets, I call children by their chosen pronouns without parents being aware, porn culture is rife - but yes, that’s Labour’s fault.

Well I hope that the issues over childcare get resolved. The tories have screwed up the free childcare making it difficult for lots of families to find childcare and that predominantly affects women.

Much more difficult to access the care system for our older generation so, again, the care mainly falls to women.

Most teachers are women and under the Tories schools have become increasingly difficult places to work, hence a teacher shortage.

You are nuts if you think the tories care about women more than Labour.

I cannot wait to see the back of them and have Starmer in office.

Nice try, when they have disabled people's backs I will vote for them

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Sorry, no. Tories don’t support women.

As a proof, they have destroyed the NHS to a point where it’s impossible for them to get properly listened/believed/supported/referred for many womanly health concerns.

That’s more than enough.

I don't want Tories as they fucked things up.

I don't want Labour as they started fucking things up especially with the NHS - THEY were the ones starting to close services and fuck up funding.

Neither will do good. I understand the woman thing though. I can't vote for a party who do not know what a woman is. If they don't know what a woman is they do not want this woman's vote.

What about black women’s rights?

The Tories feel it’s acceptable to take and campaign using money from someone who feels it’s acceptable to hate us all.
Trivia I think it’s been referred as.

@RheaRend Tories would have had 14 years to reverse the trend if they wished, instead they chose to double up.

The only real issue!! That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. Being able to afford decent housing, access to healthcare, education... these all affect women. I'm more worried about being able to pay my increasing rent than anything right now, and that doesn't mean woman's rights aren't important to me.

What’s happening to women’s rights is a global phenomenon and not a party political issue.

The Tories have inflicted such unspeakable, irremediable damage to this country that anyone voting for them is frankly unpatriotic.

But you can wind all of that back to Gillick Competence, which I am not agin! But, as a teacher, an educator, this is not new schizzle, this is all Gillick Competent.

I actually met Victoria Gillick way back, she was a very interesting woman. Really driven by what we as young women then considered to be very retrogressive ideals. However, as a middle-aged woman now, she was actually on to something.

This.

op- I think you need to go research the Tory party.
There’s a lot I could say but I won’t because I will get mad.

don’t vote Tory - it’s time they were out. they’ve caused enough damage. What in the world would make you think they care about women?! Anyway.
Just don’t.
The fact you’re subject is misspelling woman as women made me roll my eyes and think typical Tory.. well that says it all 😂

don’t sway people to your thinking when you haven’t done enough thinking.

what did the Tories actuallydo to improve the life of women? help me put here!

Well yeah... I don't agree with their stance myself but looking at it objectively - what have they actually done towards solving immigration issues, solving economic downturn, stopping women becoming more marginalized, supporting free speech, because all of those things have got WORSE in the last 10 years. They put laws in against protest which will impact anyone wanting to protest against the very issue you feel strongly about.

"But, but, Rishi Sunak said a man is a man and a woman is a woman..." Really, you'd vote for them despite the above, based on THAT?!

Is that you, Rishi?
Or the woman who posted yesterday telling us we MUST keep our cats in for the next 5 nights on pain of death?
Put 'grip' on your shopping list today, you need to get one

I will not be voting Tory and their mean, dishonest morally corrupt Government. I don’t believe the Tory party are pro women, I think they are populist and lead on hate and division. I don’t support the Labour position on the definition of a woman and I will continue to object to this but they are the lesser of two evils.

Is that you Rishi? 😀

The Tories aren't supportive of women either to be fair.

For me - and actually should be got everyone - the only real issue at the next GE is freedom of speech/women's rights.

Scuttle back to the FWR board where they are prepared to entertain your war on woke nonsense.

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You have got to be kidding. Over my dead body would I vote Tory after what they’ve done to this country, women, children, young people and the vulnerable.

Never, ever. Now could the Tory politicians bore off with their desperate attempts to grab a few votes. Nobody is that stupid.

I would rather die than vote Tory. I’m active in politics (Labour) in a former red wall constituency that now has an utterly useless MP who spends most of his time visiting local businesses (ok admirable yes) and showing off how he didn’t claim expenses for his £3 sandwich 🙄 we’re also getting a big new fancy station (not needed right now) and a museum, yet they can’t even fill in our potholes! Fur coat and no knickers!

I also work in mental health and commented on one of his social media posts about funding, which he then accused of being ‘allegations’!

They’ve had 14 years to make a difference wrt the GRA etc. They haven’t bothered and are only paying lip service to the concerns of safeguarding and the rights of women and girls.
To vote for the fact they “know what a woman is” would be to fall for cynical manipulation.
Do I like Labour’s stance on women’s rights? Nope. But I dislike being lied to by the Tories that they give a shit about women. I’ve voted Conservative in the past but this new breed of Tory are mendacious, self-interested, asset-stripping swine.

I’m going to read the actual manifestos before I decide where my vote goes. But yes, you are BU.

My view is neither of our two main parties are covering themselves in glory. Both have serious issues that make me not want to vote for them. On balance, I think we need change. One party in power for too long becomes complacent.

What we need, and lack, is a leader who has the strength and will to effect major change in the management of public services.

Others will feel differently. But tribalism and the “two sides” narrative is killing politics and the ability of parties to really do things. I’d love to see bipartisan groups set up to manage NHS and education for example. Remove them from the whims of the current cabinet to allow long term, consistent planning and development.

So, I’ll see the manifesto. I’ll see what my local candidates say.

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