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To wonder which way the vote will go?

257 replies

ManchesterBeatrice · 27/03/2024 14:07

There'll be a general election this year and there's been such a lot of chat everywhere about the Torys losing.

I'd love to think this will be the case, but was thinking where will the votes go! I've always voted labour, and will again, but is there a chance the Torys might get back in?

Maybe there's a big set of silent voters who'll vote them back!

Is the consensus here that they will lose? And if so, to labour?

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newnamethanks · 27/03/2024 19:26

Oh there's a lot of Tory enthusiasts on here. Has Jonathan Gullis joined Mumsnet to celebrate his New and Very Important Role in the Incompetents Party? How many MPs have walked away since they got that 80 majority? Be quick with your support, fans, while there's still some of them left in post 👋 👋 👋

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/03/2024 19:26

I have a horrible feeling it will be a coalition and the worst of all worlds.

Abhannmor · 27/03/2024 19:31

JessS1990 · 27/03/2024 17:51

Toys are more likely to win than the Tories, I think on that we can agree.

Agreed. Toys haven't brought an extremely hard Tory Brexit or buggered up the housing market and health service. Buzz Lightyear for PM. Woody for Chancellor I think. Make Bob the Builder Housing minister. Peppa Pig for the Health service. Although she may want to work against the stereotype? Minister of Defence maybe.

JessS1990 · 27/03/2024 19:31

SnapdragonToadflax · 27/03/2024 19:21

They are not bailing on funded hours, they're saying that the Tories' plans are not viable. Which we all knew anyway.

Given there are appararently people who did not realise that Labour are course for a massive landslide in the next GE, it is I think safe to assume that some people also believed Sunak when he said there would be free childcare, but meant he was siphoning tax payer's money to his wife's business.

SoIf · 27/03/2024 19:37

pointythings · 27/03/2024 19:23

I think the massive majorities recently overturned by Labour and the Lib Dems would suggest that the shy Tories are a little disillusioned with their party.

Even my cousin, a party member and dyed in the wool Tory voter is not voting in this election. This isn't 1992.

Like I said, I will stand corrected.

But may I point out that my cousin, a dye in the wool Tory, will still vote Conservative.

Don't be convinced this will be a whitewash.

user8800 · 27/03/2024 19:39

My pils...never voted anything but Tory

Not voting this time.

That's ^ why Labour will get in. Not because they offer hope to people

JessS1990 · 27/03/2024 19:45

SoIf · 27/03/2024 19:37

Like I said, I will stand corrected.

But may I point out that my cousin, a dye in the wool Tory, will still vote Conservative.

Don't be convinced this will be a whitewash.

I reckon its not a question of being convinced, more of looking at as much of the available evidence as possible.

Recent elections, polling and so on.

Such as

https://www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard/

Latest general election voting intention opinion polls

Here are the latest general election voting intention figures from each of the polling firms currently running national surveys.

https://www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard

ToWhitToWhoo · 27/03/2024 19:46

I think Labour will win, though it might not be the landslide that some are predicting.

IClaudine · 27/03/2024 19:48

JessS1990 · 27/03/2024 19:13

I've never thought of Stamer like that, and dont recall seeing his wife.

Oh Jess! You must have missed the cringey video where they talked about who makes the bed and loads the dishwasher ( they think we are dumb enough to believe they don't have domestic help).

FlowerBarrow · 27/03/2024 19:50

IClaudine · 27/03/2024 18:00

Eh?

Most of the "protest votes" are Tories going to Reform UK.

The people most likely to stay at home are the disaffected Tory voters.

The rest of us want rid of the fuckers. There will be a lot of tactical voting.

Any protest votes not going to the second runners ie labour contributes to the risk of conservatives getting in, as it only reduces the conservative margin by one vote whereas a switch to labour from conservative increases the labour margin by two.
You are also missing the obvious, the protest votes from annoyed labour voters who dont feel they can vote for Kier Starmer.

JessS1990 · 27/03/2024 19:52

ToWhitToWhoo · 27/03/2024 19:46

I think Labour will win, though it might not be the landslide that some are predicting.

Out of curiosity, how large a majority would count as a landslide?

Boris' 80 seat majority was widely considered a landslide, so presumably less than that is the mark?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 27/03/2024 19:52

ToWhitToWhoo · 27/03/2024 19:46

I think Labour will win, though it might not be the landslide that some are predicting.

I think it may be more.

OldWiseNowTwiceTheSize · 27/03/2024 19:56

SoIf · 27/03/2024 19:12

My feelings are it will be a hung parliament. You only have to travel out into the moneyed shires to see the shy tories. There's lots of them who don't fill out polls or shout out loud. I doubt it will be a Labour landslide, but will stand corrected if wrong.

Agree with this. There's loads in my town who will turn out on the day and vote Conservative.

IClaudine · 27/03/2024 19:57

FlowerBarrow · 27/03/2024 19:50

Any protest votes not going to the second runners ie labour contributes to the risk of conservatives getting in, as it only reduces the conservative margin by one vote whereas a switch to labour from conservative increases the labour margin by two.
You are also missing the obvious, the protest votes from annoyed labour voters who dont feel they can vote for Kier Starmer.

Well, I am not missing the obvious as I am not voting Labour in protest at Reeves and Kendall's remarks about the sick and disabled! But I am in a Labour stronghold. If I was not I would vote tactically to keep the Tories out. I think a lot of protest voters will do the same.

Hibernatalie · 27/03/2024 19:59

Logically, if the Conservative Party stood a chance, they'd call an election now? They are leaving it to the last possible moment for a reason.

Opinion polls show Labour well ahead.

It's not over until it's over, and I don't know what's going to happen, but at the moment it looks like a comfortable win for Labour.

IClaudine · 27/03/2024 20:00

Logically, if the Conservative Party stood a chance, they'd call an election now? They are leaving it to the last possible moment for a reason

Exactly. And Tory MPs wouldn't be resigning.

ilovesooty · 27/03/2024 20:10

They have to be pretty desperate and running out of options to promote that thug Gullis.

MuggedByReality · 27/03/2024 20:11

Hibernatalie · 27/03/2024 19:59

Logically, if the Conservative Party stood a chance, they'd call an election now? They are leaving it to the last possible moment for a reason.

Opinion polls show Labour well ahead.

It's not over until it's over, and I don't know what's going to happen, but at the moment it looks like a comfortable win for Labour.

Spot on.

Rishi is holding on to the bitter end, hoping something will turn up to save him & his party. Just as Major did in 1997 & Brown did in 2010. Both lost, of course.

And the Tory rats are deserting the sinking ship for a reason. They aren’t stupid, after all.

JessS1990 · 27/03/2024 20:25

MuggedByReality · 27/03/2024 20:11

Spot on.

Rishi is holding on to the bitter end, hoping something will turn up to save him & his party. Just as Major did in 1997 & Brown did in 2010. Both lost, of course.

And the Tory rats are deserting the sinking ship for a reason. They aren’t stupid, after all.

Those ex ministers who jumped in the autumn must be pissed off.
They jumped then assuming there would be a May election and would have had their 6 month cooling off period before taking up a new job in business, and now Sunak is dragging it out. My heart bleeds for them.

AzureNewt · 27/03/2024 20:45

Politics can obviously be very fluid but I think the bookies have it about right - 83% chance of a Labour majority, 12.5% chance of a hung parliament, very little prospect of anything else.

FlowerBarrow · 27/03/2024 20:46

The unexpected Brexit result is too recent for me to feel confident the tories will be out.

JessS1990 · 27/03/2024 20:48

FlowerBarrow · 27/03/2024 20:46

The unexpected Brexit result is too recent for me to feel confident the tories will be out.

The polls leading up to the Brexit referendum were fairly constant with the result being close, and each possible outcome being within the margin of error of many of them.

Currently if the polls are a little bit out then Labour get a majority of 200 not 250.

NeelyOHara1 · 27/03/2024 20:57

Labour usually have to mop up after the Tories but somehow still get blamed and shamed. You couldn't make it up...

x2boys · 27/03/2024 21:34

JessS1990 · 27/03/2024 19:13

I've never thought of Stamer like that, and dont recall seeing his wife.

Google keir starmer young ,he was a very a very handsome man apparently mark D'Arcy from the Bridget Jones books were based on him
I'm not particularly keen on him although I do think he will probably win the next general election butb i don't feel he inspires confidence in his party more that a lot of of the electorate appear to want the Tories out

ToWhitToWhoo · 27/03/2024 21:52

FloofyBird · 27/03/2024 19:05

Never say never, most of us thought Brexit would never happen then loads of people didn't even vote and it did!

Anyone who thought Brexit would never happen wasn't looking at the screaming anti-EU headlines, day after day, in the right-wing tabloids.

No, I didn't buy them, but the headlines could be seen from a mile away in stationers and convenience stores.

I voted Remain, and I didn't think Brexit would definitely happen, but I certainly thought it was a possibility.

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