To wonder which way the vote will go?

[ManchesterBeatrice]

There'll be a general election this year and there's been such a lot of chat everywhere about the Torys losing.

I'd love to think this will be the case, but was thinking where will the votes go! I've always voted labour, and will again, but is there a chance the Torys might get back in?

Maybe there's a big set of silent voters who'll vote them back!

Is the consensus here that they will lose? And if so, to labour?

Proof they are bailing, please? Because that sounds like the line Keegan has been trotting out today.

https://twitter.com/GillianKeegan/status/1772990648754278647

How can Labour bail on something that doesn't even exist?

They are ‘bailing’ to look at how to structure it properly with enough providers and at an affordable price.

They are looking to improve the current childcare nightmare.

Why do people post utter shit like this? Labour are way ahead in the polls.

Maybe they think no one actually follows politics? Bizarre.

Isn't the consensus

• paying off Covid
• increasing bill for NHS
• increasing bill for social care - old and economically inactive
• lost by irresponsible persons (lots during covid, see above.)

And possibly lost EU subsidies?

I must say that what the NHS does and doesn't pay for is a source of constant wonder to me.

Also a lot of ignorant people keep conflating Brexit loyalties with party ones - the very fact the Tories called the referendum shows they, like Labour were split over Brexit (and still are), as are/were their supporters.

My 100+yr old grandparent has earned their vote. In the war they more than did their share; they worked all their life and always had a volunteer role in addition, right up to their late nineties; they raised two citizens are good as they were; they provided full time care for their spouse with dementia, unpaid, for 25 years; even now they make this country a better place not just for their family but for many in their village and some further afield.

Of course they didn't have to earn their vote. But if it had to be earned, some of the oldest people I know should be at the front of the queue.

And as for the future not affecting them... how tragic if by old age someone hasn't learned to think beyond their own immediate interests. I've often voted against my financial interests, because I vote for what I consider best for the country.

So if the government told you to put your hand in the fire, I guess you'd do it.

Honestly, just stop blaming others for the weakness and greed of too many of the Boomers. There's no show without Punch

Because a vote for this shower is so very intelligent? Ahahahahaha

I'm over 60 btw

If only it was that simple.

Things change proverbially quickly on politics. At the moment it looks like a labour landslide. A Tory win is a remote possibility and a hung parliament not likely, but my second guess.

Its not really about feelings though is it.

Latest polling suggests for instance that Labour will gain mid Devon from the Tories.

Given that Johnson's 80 seat majority was considered a landslide, I would suggest that all the available evidence suggests that Labour will indeed win bigger than that.

Never say never, most of us thought Brexit would never happen then loads of people didn't even vote and it did!

With the stupidity and ignorance of so many people in the country with those who can't see further than the end of the Daily Mail I shouldn't be surprised if the Tories were voted back in.

In my opinion there should be a higher intelligence level requirement on voting. At the very least people should inform themselves better.

This is why Sunak needed to go for a May election.
Then he could argue that the lack of childcare places was due to initial teething difficulties that would be smoothed out.

By October it will be clear that the policy really only exists to enrich his wife's business.

The amazing thing is that Sunak is orders of magnitude more dull that Starmer. Sunak sounds bored of himself when he is delivering each of his relaunches.

I've heard Sunak is so dull that when he looks in a mirror there is no reflection.

He's very handsome though and he has a pretty wife 🙃

My feelings are it will be a hung parliament. You only have to travel out into the moneyed shires to see the shy tories. There's lots of them who don't fill out polls or shout out loud. I doubt it will be a Labour landslide, but will stand corrected if wrong.

I've never thought of Stamer like that, and dont recall seeing his wife.

They didn't seem to turn up in the Kingswood by-election, or any previous by-elections going back to North Shropshire. The latter is an area I know well, it was and is deeply conservative. Until the current MP it had always had a Conservative MP.

And then conveniently blamed a whole generation for their laziness 🙄

No. Depends where you are. There are websites which explains the options. Not sure MN will let us link though? There are many seats in South and SW England where Libdems are best placed to unseat the incumbent.

They are not bailing on funded hours, they're saying that the Tories' plans are not viable. Which we all knew anyway.

I think the massive majorities recently overturned by Labour and the Lib Dems would suggest that the shy Tories are a little disillusioned with their party.

Even my cousin, a party member and dyed in the wool Tory voter is not voting in this election. This isn't 1992.