For DH to insist on vaginal birth not ceasarean

[Anguish]

Asking for a friend. Why would he care either way? She has a low pain tolerance and doesn't want to experience the most painful thing that can happen to a woman.

EDIT: He's absolutely lovely and basically a perfect partner in every conceivable way, which is why it's slightly out of character.

well obviously...

It's entirely the birthing patent's choice! They don't need a specific reason, they can choose a c section.

And what was your justification for asking for/wanting a C Section?

Since when? I know my children are all adults now, but I am astounded at this. How can the NHS justify the cost when it's not medically necessary?

Just saying that it can do. You don't get a guaranteed painless birth if you opt for a section.

He's welcome to have a vaginal birth just as soon as he has his own vagina

Massive red flag - he's not remotely lovely

This times a million

The day he gives birth is the day he gets to choose

NICE guidance.

Its also not demonstrably more costly than attempted VB, given the rates of instrumental and EMCS plus downstream costs.

Because they consider (or are supposed to be consider) the mental health of the mother to be an important factor.

I'm opting for a C-section birth even though I could probably have a VBAC, because I have no wish whatsoever to push for 4 hours and then end up with an emergency section anyway. So technically it's not medically "necessary" but it's my right and I certainly don't feel bad about it either. The NHS performs tonnes of procedures that aren't medically necessary.

@TwigletsAndRadishes

She doesn’t need a justification. Women should have a choice and are meant to have a choice under NHS guidelines. It only fails when you get staff who don’t give a shit and won’t listen to you.
That is not a good thing.

Not true

Here's what the NHS says on maternal request C sections:

Some women choose to have a caesarean for non-medical reasons.

If you ask your midwife or doctor for a caesarean when there are not medical reasons, they'll explain the overall benefits and risks of a caesarean to you and your baby compared with a vaginal birth.

If you're anxious about giving birth, you should be offered the chance to discuss your anxiety with a healthcare professional who can offer support during your pregnancy and labour.
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If after discussing all the risks and hearing about all the support on offer you still feel that a vaginal birth is not an acceptable option, you should be offered a planned caesarean. If your doctor is unwilling to perform the operation, they should refer you to a doctor who will.

Do you now? 😐 This response makes me want to stroke my chin tbh.

They don't put you under unless a spinal or epidural fails or is not an option, or there is a emergency.

By birthing parent, you mean mother? Please don't tell me that women identifying as trans men are requesting C Sections as a way of detaching themselves from the reality of being a woman going through normal vaginal childbirth?

Well it was entirely true for me, and, I suspect, for plenty of other women.

I would rather staple my tongue to a rabid rhinoceros than give birth vaginally again.

It's up to her but having given birth twice I wouldn't say it's the most painful thing I've experienced. I found giving birth naturally to be wonderful. So did my two sisters.

Once you've given birth naturally the recovery is fast. When you've had a caesarean you can't drive or bend etc for some time.

Of course some women have to have a caesarean but if you don't then giving birth as nature intended is preferable.

Not normally no. You get a spinal block/epidural and are awake for the whole procedure.

However, there are occasions like when I had my DS that an emergency arises and the epidural doesn’t take. There was no time to waste so I was given a general anaesthetic to save the life of both me and my son.

Without a CS one of both of us might not be here now so your friends OH needs to understand what he thinks is a lovely fluffy experience can be fucking painful terrifying and potentially life threatening. He needs to get his head out of his arse and get real. Childbirth isn’t a Disney movie

Don't be dense, this poster obviously means you receive anesthesia during a C section, not that they put you under.

It’s not about whether section or vaginal birth is better or worse. We are in the age easily accessible information and most women are able to read up about it and make an informed decision. Most presumably made an informed choice about the decision to have a baby anyway - we aren’t idiots!!

She could want a home birth assisted by Mr Blobby and a symphony orchestra playing ‘Push It’, it’s really none of her husband’s business to dictate what happens to her body.

Really?

you have to be a GF at this point

Dense? Did you read what the OP put? "Put under" is general anaesthetic and no, not everyone does know.

wtf. closet sadist?

Yes, she said "put you under anaesthetic", not "put you under". I think it was just clumsily worded. I've heard people say it like that before when they know the person will be awake.

Thats only if you have a straight forward vaginal birth which isn’t always the case.

Giving birth vaginally is preferable to some women but not all which is why women should have a choice.