For DH to insist on vaginal birth not ceasarean

[Anguish]

Asking for a friend. Why would he care either way? She has a low pain tolerance and doesn't want to experience the most painful thing that can happen to a woman.

EDIT: He's absolutely lovely and basically a perfect partner in every conceivable way, which is why it's slightly out of character.

And girls starting periods when they’re far too young for sex. Yes of course childbirth can work out but it’s pretty horrid for a lot of women (who don’t matter compared to a new baby). That’s nature. But we are now able to improve it so why shouldn’t we?

Has it figured it out? Ever had a baby get stuck?

That's an excellent point.

He's absolutely lovely and basically a perfect partner in every conceivable way.

Hmm, I bet he is.

Yep.

"Natural" means "occurring in nature", which is often a brutal and horrific place. It doesn't mean "safe" or "desirable".

Maternal and infant death are highly natural.

Natural selection kills the babies that aren’t strong and the women with poorly shaped pelvises 🤷‍♀️

The bloody point was I didn't NEED a C-section!!! Despite the bullying by the medical profession.

Why would it be ok for doctors ( or anyone) to try and insist on a CS but it's not ok to insist on a vaginal birth. Double standards somewhat

If a pregnant woman with capacity to consent wants to insist on a vaginal birth for herself then I have no issue with that. I would expect doctors to explain any specific risks (as I would for a C section), but the risk is hers to take.

"Nature" has not "worked it out". Many unassisted births end in a live baby. That's the way the species continues and is a result of evolution. Others end with a dead baby, dead mother, or both. Others end with a damaged mother, damaged baby, or both. All completely part of "nature".

NOT Double standards , Clinical judgement and management of potential risk. Risk to mum and or baby. Responsible to assess & manage likely outcome and if that means suggesting a CS then it will be recommended. Capacity is presumed unless absent and an MCA will be undertaken to make sure mum understands the decision eg CS or vaginal birth. If mum can understand the decision, weigh up the pro and cons and retain information related to the decision she’s deemed to be capacitous. An adult With capacity can make an unwise decision eg go against medical advice and decline the CS. The CS would only be imposed if the adult lacks capacity

EDIT: He's absolutely lovely and basically a perfect partner in every conceivable way

No he isn’t!!! FFS 🤦🏼‍♀️

Because a doctor is trying to do their job for a start. I'm not sure that can be compared to a random father who thinks he has a say over his wife's body.

They frequently insist on a vaginal birth. It is the same thing. They will do their best in what they think will statistically be the safest. Yes sometimes they get it wrong. Some women are glad they pushed for vaginal or pushed for their c section.

@Castleview6 Nope you don't need a medical reason. Stop spreading misinformation.
I had 2.. purely because I didn't want to give birth vaginally.
Every woman should be able to weigh up the pros and cons for her. And choose which she wants.
And we can ♥️

Woop woop!

Lovely perfect partners don’t try and dictate the way their baby is born. He sounds very controlling.

I've had 2x HG pregnancies and an IUGR baby thanks to a marginal cord insertion. My body clearly didn't have a fucking clue what it was doing. I'd be dead twice over without modern medicine.

I've also had to ELCS - first for a complicated breech and second just for the hell of it. After my terrible pregnancies there was absolutely NO WAY I was going to roll the dice and even attempt a natural birth.

Completely! It doenst take a genius to know how hard birth is for a lot of women. No way would my husband do that!

And severely lacking in empathy

Because choosing major surgery as a way to deliver a healthy baby, when you are perfectly capable to birth naturally, is bonkers! If it were a cake walk, then why do we have so many women complaining of the difficulties post csections? Don’t pretend like it’s not major trauma! Csections should be kept for what they were initially Intended for: life saving procedures.

The baby isn't coming out of him,op he should respect your choices end of discussion.as long as your ok and baby is healthy that's surely the main thing.

Because usually women are talking about emergency c-sections in that case, not elective c-sections. Plenty of women would also say that their vaginal birth wasn't a cake walk either.

It should be a woman's choice because it is her body.

Your inability to empathise with and understand another woman's informed consent to a procedure does not constitute a valid argument against it.

Elective c-sections are available on the NHS as per clinical guidelines. Women have a right to choose. You don't have to understand their choice. The only people who need to understand are the woman making the choice and the consultant ensuring she's making an informed choice.

My thoughts exactly.

That sentence should probably read “…. basically a perfect partner in every conceivable way in front of other people”.

@thebestinterest probably best not to describe other people's reproductive health choices as "bonkers" really.