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To think that this is why fathers remarry

234 replies

TheShellBeach · 26/03/2024 16:04

I think it's possible that some fathers, having left their wives, decide pretty quickly to remarry (or start living with a woman) so that there's a replacement women there to look after the children when they have contact/access.

Obviously this isn't true in all cases but it wouldn't surprise me if quite a lot of them did it for this reason.

After all, there are countless threads on here about so-called blended families, where the woman concerned just ends up as the default carer for another woman's children, and the actual father abdicates his responsibilities, leaving her to it.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Daffsinfeb · 26/03/2024 18:57

Meadowfinch · 26/03/2024 17:44

A lot of men want an unpaid cook, house keeper, nanny and general admin.

I feel terribly sorry for those women who fall for it without realising that's the deal.

You forgot the regular sex on tap, included with all those other conveniences.

PutASpellOnYou · 26/03/2024 19:01

There's always so many women who happily accommodate them though.
People are just so conditioned to live in pairs, the idea of living happily alone just doesn't figure. You see it time and time again.

FangsForTheMemory · 26/03/2024 19:05

Herdinggoats · 26/03/2024 17:32

Anyone remember the thread with the poster who owned her own home and the new fella wanted her to give up her dog so she could spend her money on the kids 😂

Oh yes. A classic of the genre.

Astariel · 26/03/2024 19:09

One of the flip sides of the message to women that ‘marriage is protective’ and that it’s so much better for them to be married, is that too many homeowning women with good jobs, cars, pensions and so on end up married when it absolutely is against their interests to do so.

Then the ‘you chose a man with kids’, ‘you knew what your were getting into’ nonsense starts and all kinds of people start gaslighting her into thinking that she is somehow required to bankroll everyone and provide all the household labour for someone else’s kids.

For all the people determined to rush up the defence of men, it is the case that many divorced men do look to replace their live in nanny/housekeeper with benefits asap. And they’re especially keen to find a nanny/housekeeper who provides housing for them and their children too.

All the posters keen to blame women who end up in these marriages, are somehow shifting the blame for men’s bad behaviour (and society’s general acceptance of this) on to the women they are taking the piss out of. Those women should just have known better, shouldn’t they? 🙄

SecondHandFurniture · 26/03/2024 19:19

Then the ‘you chose a man with kids’, ‘you knew what your were getting into’ nonsense starts and all kinds of people start gaslighting her into thinking that she is somehow required to bankroll everyone and provide all the household labour for someone else’s kids.

Yes, this is really irritating. We get so many women on here whose husbands act exactly as they did when they were married to/living with the mum. Especially if she is already sorting out the laundry and calendars and after-school care and school admin for her own kids. What's 2 more, eh?

Crushed23 · 26/03/2024 19:29

TheSnowyOwl · 26/03/2024 18:52

Which is often why they ditch the children and forget to mention them until far further down the line, if at all.

I’m hyper alert to this kind of behaviour and like to meet a man’s friends, family and wider social circle loooooong before committing to anything. Most men can’t keep their children secret to everyone in their life.

TeaGinandFags · 26/03/2024 19:39

Tits, check.
Sex, check.
Housework, check.
Childcare, check.
Driving licence, check.
Money/property, check.

Falcor · 26/03/2024 19:51

Herdinggoats · 26/03/2024 17:32

Anyone remember the thread with the poster who owned her own home and the new fella wanted her to give up her dog so she could spend her money on the kids 😂

Do you have a link to that thread*

Patrickiscrazy · 26/03/2024 20:06

YANBU. Fuck this.
(My first spelled out swearword).
Finally I got round to it. 😂

EyeOfTheCat · 26/03/2024 20:55

Dacadactyl · 26/03/2024 16:08

There's generally a reason the first wife left him IMO. Didn't step up to look after his own kids fiest time round.

Edited

Nah. My DH left his first wife because she’s batshit crazy. She would probably still take him back now… a decade on. She is batshit crazy.

i do think men have some expectation that women, whatever their relationship to their child, will just slot into a Mothering role.

i have also observed that men seem to go to their mothers if ever they have their children themselves for any period of time greater than an hour.

My DH didnt start expecting me to be a proxy second mum, but he soon slipped into the expectation that I would be. My kindness was confused for duty. Tbh so did his ex. Soon I was getting phone calls “Can you be home for DSS, his Mum wants to go out” like it was somehow my responsibility to look after their kid when they had better things to do.

i also think this is why step parents get such a hard time - the lines are so blurred and the expectations of them change to suit their parents needs on any given occasion.

Astariel · 26/03/2024 20:55

Bloody hell. That thread is an incredible example of the cuckoo-like behaviour of the cocklodging divorced dad.

thebestinterest · 26/03/2024 21:02

Yes, I know many, many men who have done this. Life goes on as normal for them. Meanwhile; new gf becomes step mum.

thebestinterest · 26/03/2024 21:04

x2boys · 26/03/2024 16:26

I mean it couldn't possibly be because they have met somebody they have fallen in love and want to marry could it 🙄

Two months after the separation 😭😂🤣🤣🤔

colourfulcrochet · 26/03/2024 21:08

My ex moved in with his 2nd wife very quickly. She took over childcare duties just as quickly, too. They both got bored eventually though. Not complaining. Happy to see the backs of both of them.

toomanyy · 26/03/2024 21:10

EyeOfTheCat · 26/03/2024 20:55

Nah. My DH left his first wife because she’s batshit crazy. She would probably still take him back now… a decade on. She is batshit crazy.

i do think men have some expectation that women, whatever their relationship to their child, will just slot into a Mothering role.

i have also observed that men seem to go to their mothers if ever they have their children themselves for any period of time greater than an hour.

My DH didnt start expecting me to be a proxy second mum, but he soon slipped into the expectation that I would be. My kindness was confused for duty. Tbh so did his ex. Soon I was getting phone calls “Can you be home for DSS, his Mum wants to go out” like it was somehow my responsibility to look after their kid when they had better things to do.

i also think this is why step parents get such a hard time - the lines are so blurred and the expectations of them change to suit their parents needs on any given occasion.

I agree. I hope you set DH right?

HeChokedOnAChorizo · 26/03/2024 21:14

ITookABathWithAinsleyHarriott · 26/03/2024 18:50

I agree OP. One of things I liked about my now DH (he has 2 kids from a previous relationship) was that he had been single for nearly 6 years, had lived independently, ran his own household on his own, and was happy raising his kids on his time solo.

I had my own 2 kids coming into the relationship so I was adamant I didn’t want to date someone who was dependent or needed help with childcare.

My DP was the same, single for 8 years and had his own house.His kids are now all adults.

My ex, I predicted that he would find a single mum with her own house and would have moved in with her within 3 months.

i was wrong. It took him 6 weeks 🙄

EyeOfTheCat · 26/03/2024 21:18

toomanyy · 26/03/2024 21:10

I agree. I hope you set DH right?

I did yes. I think he thought his child was just a vision of perfection and I was lucky to be included in his inner circle. Tbh step parents don’t feel like that. Like most kids you might be fond of them, but that doesn’t translate into bending over backwards to make their parents life easier and care for them.

We had some difficult conversations. DH said I didn’t do enough. By that he meant, I didn’t pick up his slack. He wanted me to take the burden of his son so he could free himself up for the nice parts - like sit on the sofa with him whilst I cooked tea. DSS’ Mum got pissed off that I wouldn’t drop my weekend plans to accommodate hers. But they both adjusted.

Now I do very little. When you’ve had the piss taken out of you it takes the shine out.

slore · 26/03/2024 21:26

Not just to care for his kids, but to his maid, cook, cleaner, source of comfort and sex, all unpaid.

toomanyy · 26/03/2024 21:26

EyeOfTheCat · 26/03/2024 21:18

I did yes. I think he thought his child was just a vision of perfection and I was lucky to be included in his inner circle. Tbh step parents don’t feel like that. Like most kids you might be fond of them, but that doesn’t translate into bending over backwards to make their parents life easier and care for them.

We had some difficult conversations. DH said I didn’t do enough. By that he meant, I didn’t pick up his slack. He wanted me to take the burden of his son so he could free himself up for the nice parts - like sit on the sofa with him whilst I cooked tea. DSS’ Mum got pissed off that I wouldn’t drop my weekend plans to accommodate hers. But they both adjusted.

Now I do very little. When you’ve had the piss taken out of you it takes the shine out.

Edited

Glad to hear it, I wish more step-mums would push back on picking up the slack to make their partner’s and the ex’s life easier.

PorpoiseWithPurpose · 26/03/2024 21:27

gannett · 26/03/2024 17:47

I see this trotted as gospel on MN all the time but it doesn't tally with my experience at all. I've known tons of men who've ended relationships simply because it wasn't working for them.

The only 5 men I know who ended their marriages walked out on their families after having an affair.

EyeOfTheCat · 26/03/2024 21:32

toomanyy · 26/03/2024 21:26

Glad to hear it, I wish more step-mums would push back on picking up the slack to make their partner’s and the ex’s life easier.

The thing I find odd, and still do, is that you’re expected to be grateful for this extra burden? I have my own children now and I know they’re not always easy to care for. They’re hard work, because they’re kids and so when family and friends take them out or have them for a bit or the odd favour I’m really grateful. I don’t think to myself that they should feel lucky. It’s so odd!

LorlieS · 26/03/2024 21:33

Well would we say the same about mothers who remarry?
I'm one of them.
Met my now husband when my boys were just 3 and 6 and he had no children.
He is a brilliant stepdad, and continues to be as the boys are now both teenagers (13 and 16).
For us it's all about teamwork.

LorlieS · 26/03/2024 21:36

@EyeOfTheCat Are you referring to stepchildren as an "extra burden"?

Scrunshine · 26/03/2024 21:40

I’m a step mum. DH was a single parent for 5 years because he was so terrified of someone hurting him or DSD again. We now have our own DC too. I don’t treat her differently from my own but that doesn’t mean I do all the work. We split that equally. Don’t tar all men with the same brush just because their wives aren’t reporting their behaviour online.

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