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To expect my husband to support me?

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pregahes · 23/03/2024 09:47

need some advice on a recurring issue with my husband. Whenever I feel upset or wronged by someone, he always dismisses my feelings or acts like he doesn’t care. It’s getting to the point where I feel like I can’t count on him to have my back.

For instance, during a recent long-haul flight, I put my seat back, and the person behind me kept pushing it forward. When I politely asked if I could recline my seat, she replied aggressively, supported by her husband. I called the flight attendant for assistance, and they resolved the situation.

However, my husband, who had his headphones on and missed the whole exchange, didn’t seem to care when I told him what happened. He simply shrugged it off and went back to his seat and said it isn't his problem, even though I was visibly upset and shaken by the incident.

This isn’t an isolated incident. My husband always seems to side with others instead of supporting me, leaving me feeling unsupported and alone. Am I being unreasonable to expect him to take my side in situations like these? I’d appreciate any advice or perspective on how to handle this. Thanks.

OP posts:
Maray1967 · 23/03/2024 18:21

pregahes · 23/03/2024 10:32

@Maray1967 it WAS night time and long haul!!! It was about 8.30pm I put it back

Ok, but you should check first - and I’d probably not do it until I’m ready to sleep - about 10.

ZippedOpenMouth · 23/03/2024 18:26

The fact that the O/P went on to joke and laugh with the aggressor would have boiled my piss . I think this is what the O/P is upset about .She didn't want her husband to wade in guns blazing she just wanted some concern and support like a hug .

ZippedOpenMouth · 23/03/2024 18:26

ZippedOpenMouth · 23/03/2024 18:26

The fact that the O/P went on to joke and laugh with the aggressor would have boiled my piss . I think this is what the O/P is upset about .She didn't want her husband to wade in guns blazing she just wanted some concern and support like a hug .

Sorry meant O/P husband went on to laugh and joke with the aggressor

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 23/03/2024 18:33

HUGE difference between possibly losing £25k and reclining an airplane seat...

ZippedOpenMouth · 23/03/2024 18:34

@Imgoingtobefree

I think a lot of men have selfish traits ( not all ) my husband's attitude is if it doesn't affect him or it's nothing do with him he doesn't care . He will also defer to people he thinks are socially a notch above him and expects me to do the same . I worked out early on In our relationship that he likes to be seen in a good light. I used to be the one that spoke up if I thought something or someone was unfair while he just stood there looking the good guy . I've stopped doing it now. He says are you going to say something. Nope !

pregahes · 23/03/2024 19:33

Someone commented on the flight being late - to clarify that was one point of a whole list of problems at the airline I would never complain about that as a standalone thing so please stop trying to paint me as difficult.

It was part of a letter to also complain about the factor transfer left us stranded because another customer had the same last name so they didn't bother notice there are two couples with the same name and left which led us to have to pay for a private transfer. We were then told we would get a refund and then got told at the airport no refund from the airline.

The flight being late is one of about ten things they screwed up on - I would not complain about that as an isolated thing if that were the case

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Bumblebeestiltskin · 23/03/2024 19:52

Still not given another example of him not backing you, I see 😂

muggart · 23/03/2024 20:15

Nobody has ever asked me if they could recline their chair.

Your DH sounds a bit lame but in his defence it sounds like it's just his general personality to be very calm and not get ruffled. Which is actually a nice trait really. So at least you know it's not that he doesn't care about you, it's just that he doesn't get worked up about the same things you do. Right?

I do get the frustration at having a DH that minimises how you feel. My DH once told me I acted crazy when I was in labour and I've never really forgiven him tbh. I was treated really badly by medical staff. He had my back at the time and was great throughout, but it really hurt to hear he didn't fully empathise with what I was going through despite witnessing what a shit show it was and seeing how much pain I was in.

3luckystars · 23/03/2024 20:51

Yes it’s perfectly ok to complain about a flight being late, I think it was the comment they ‘didn’t speed up’ that people were wondering about.

DaoineSidhe · 23/03/2024 21:44

Lampslights · 23/03/2024 12:07

She has the right to recline her chair as the cabin crew confirmed the space it reclines into is not owned by the other passenger.

every person knows just because you have the right does not mean you should.

DaoineSidhe · 23/03/2024 21:47

Haydenn · 23/03/2024 12:51

To comment on the reclining seat issue isn’t derailing the thread. The OP asked if her husband had been unreasonable in not sticking up for her. If she had been walking along the street and someone out of the blue slapped a drink out of her hands then, yes he should stick up for her. If she has been a pain in the neck, reclining her seat without checking if the person behind has got a drink or laptop on the table and got herself into (what sounds like yet another) altercation, then he’s probably just tired of it.

precisely this, he should stick up for her in this scenario but not reclining on top of someone

PotatoPudding · 23/03/2024 21:56

OP, I have taken over 100 flights in my adult life. Not once have I ever been asked if I mind the person in front reclining their seat. DH takes around 50 flights a year and he’s never been asked either.

Bobloblaw84 · 23/03/2024 22:02

pregahes · 23/03/2024 14:33

@Italiangreyhound yes we have been together a long time, over 15 years. No children.

Another example, for those who want one - on the holiday we were on ( I rarely make complaints to companies before anyone piles on) but our holiday operator one the outbound flight kept doing things below standard such as delayed flight but then not speeding up the journey to be on time, bought food out late despite flight being late (so lunch was effectively after 3pm) and then dinner was close to 10pm, in flight entertainment was broken...there were more things that you just don't expect on a 10 hour flight so I started parting a list on my phone notes so I don't forget and can draft a complaint letter when I get home. The holiday was expensive.

His reaction is that I'm 'nuts' ?!!!

With respect, you are nuts.

It’s not possible to just speed up a flight.

Lunch at 3pm, heaven forbid!

My other half has similar behaviour to you sometimes.

He will point out negative things or frame things in a negative way. It’s a symptom of his mild depression. It comes and goes, and if he’s made aware of it, will make an effort to change.

My approach is, if you can’t control it, how does it benefit you to carry that negativity away from the initial event and into your life? i.e. Do you want to spend the rest of your holiday dwelling about the flight there?

He is most definitely tired of your overreactions and doesn’t want to amplify the negativity by agreeing with you.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 24/03/2024 01:43

PotatoPudding · 23/03/2024 21:56

OP, I have taken over 100 flights in my adult life. Not once have I ever been asked if I mind the person in front reclining their seat. DH takes around 50 flights a year and he’s never been asked either.

So you recline at any time without considering the person behind you? Whether they have a beverage on their tray or are working etc.

theGooHasGone · 24/03/2024 02:42

I fly often. Nobody ever asks me if it's OK for them to recline, and I never ask if it's OK for me to do so either. I do recline slowly and carefully whenever I do (i.e. I don't just slam the seat back) because I'm not an animal.

The tray tables are usually anchored to the armrests in front and not the back of the seat, so reclining shouldn't move the table. It will close a laptop screen a little or knock over a tall bottle, but this is part of why airline-provided cups are small. I don't leave drinks unattended on tray tables anyway because they're just one big bump away from ending up all over my lap; I prefer to avoid that possibility entirely.

To all those saying it's bad manners or etiquette to recline, fuck that. I paid for the seat and it has a recline button - it's my choice to use it if I want to. That also means I don't get snotty if and when the person in front of me reclines.

Onceuponatimeiwasahoe · 24/03/2024 03:10

If you ask a stranger who never paid for your plane ticket to recline and they say NO then what?

SoRainbowRhythms · 24/03/2024 05:01

not speeding up the journey to be on time

That's time travel you're looking for.

I'm getting these vibes from this thread.

To expect my husband to support me?
LeoTheLeopard · 24/03/2024 06:07

GiggleHoot · 23/03/2024 15:52

What kind of weird airlines do you fly? All airlines I fly have reclining seats.

Europe’s most frequently flown airline is Ryanair- no reclining, nor easyJet (at least partially). So not weird at all.

PotatoPudding · 24/03/2024 07:03

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 24/03/2024 01:43

So you recline at any time without considering the person behind you? Whether they have a beverage on their tray or are working etc.

I said I have never been asked.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 24/03/2024 08:20

PotatoPudding · 24/03/2024 07:03

I said I have never been asked.

Apologies, I misread.

Elephantswillnever · 24/03/2024 08:42

Haydenn · 23/03/2024 09:52

You should always ask before you recline your seat. The fact you didn’t ask in the first place puts you in the wrong. When you say you “politely asked” what you mean is, you’d already put your seat back, and were now passive aggressively escalating the situation.

Then the fact you got poor staff involved, just makes you sound like hard work. Perhaps your husband is just exhausted with it all.

You can recline your seat whenever you like outside of meal times and take off. You don’t need to ask. If the person behind wants more space then they also need to recline their seat. Or that’s what the nice flight attendant told the person behind me who was kicking my seat when I told on them.

OutsideLookingOut · 24/03/2024 08:46

YANBU and I don't have friends or a partner if I know they don't have my back and I theirs. To me it is just a basic thing.

Haydenn · 24/03/2024 09:04

Elephantswillnever · 24/03/2024 08:42

You can recline your seat whenever you like outside of meal times and take off. You don’t need to ask. If the person behind wants more space then they also need to recline their seat. Or that’s what the nice flight attendant told the person behind me who was kicking my seat when I told on them.

It’s not about asking for permission. It’s about asking to make sure they haven’t got a drink or a laptop on their table that you are going to spill or break when you push your seat back!!!

JMSA · 24/03/2024 09:14

YANBU Flowers