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To expect my husband to support me?

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pregahes · 23/03/2024 09:47

need some advice on a recurring issue with my husband. Whenever I feel upset or wronged by someone, he always dismisses my feelings or acts like he doesn’t care. It’s getting to the point where I feel like I can’t count on him to have my back.

For instance, during a recent long-haul flight, I put my seat back, and the person behind me kept pushing it forward. When I politely asked if I could recline my seat, she replied aggressively, supported by her husband. I called the flight attendant for assistance, and they resolved the situation.

However, my husband, who had his headphones on and missed the whole exchange, didn’t seem to care when I told him what happened. He simply shrugged it off and went back to his seat and said it isn't his problem, even though I was visibly upset and shaken by the incident.

This isn’t an isolated incident. My husband always seems to side with others instead of supporting me, leaving me feeling unsupported and alone. Am I being unreasonable to expect him to take my side in situations like these? I’d appreciate any advice or perspective on how to handle this. Thanks.

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Hotdogity · 23/03/2024 14:35

pregahes · 23/03/2024 14:33

@Italiangreyhound yes we have been together a long time, over 15 years. No children.

Another example, for those who want one - on the holiday we were on ( I rarely make complaints to companies before anyone piles on) but our holiday operator one the outbound flight kept doing things below standard such as delayed flight but then not speeding up the journey to be on time, bought food out late despite flight being late (so lunch was effectively after 3pm) and then dinner was close to 10pm, in flight entertainment was broken...there were more things that you just don't expect on a 10 hour flight so I started parting a list on my phone notes so I don't forget and can draft a complaint letter when I get home. The holiday was expensive.

His reaction is that I'm 'nuts' ?!!!

You wanted to complain that the pilot didn’t fly the plane faster? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 come on, this thread has to be a wind-up

spannered · 23/03/2024 14:37

@Dacadactyl I was on a flight where someone reclined and the people behind pushed the seat up. Eventually the staff moved the lady trying to recline but not until she was in tears over the whole thing. I got the feeling it was something they see all the time and they weren't particularly sympathetic either way (it was a day flight).

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pregahes · 23/03/2024 14:38

@Hotdogity it's not a wind up! The plane was late back too but they did exactly that and that's what has always been the case when flights have been late!!

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ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 23/03/2024 14:40

pregahes · 23/03/2024 14:33

@Italiangreyhound yes we have been together a long time, over 15 years. No children.

Another example, for those who want one - on the holiday we were on ( I rarely make complaints to companies before anyone piles on) but our holiday operator one the outbound flight kept doing things below standard such as delayed flight but then not speeding up the journey to be on time, bought food out late despite flight being late (so lunch was effectively after 3pm) and then dinner was close to 10pm, in flight entertainment was broken...there were more things that you just don't expect on a 10 hour flight so I started parting a list on my phone notes so I don't forget and can draft a complaint letter when I get home. The holiday was expensive.

His reaction is that I'm 'nuts' ?!!!

I think this is nuts too.

If you can't remember parts of what happened then they aren't worth complaining about.

You started typing a complaint list while on holiday...yes, that would annoy me too. I couldn't understand why you wouldn't just focus on enjoying the holiday.

And as for flying the plane faster? I don't have the words to comment on that!

Undisclosedlocation · 23/03/2024 14:43

pregahes · 23/03/2024 14:38

@Hotdogity it's not a wind up! The plane was late back too but they did exactly that and that's what has always been the case when flights have been late!!

You apparently seem to lack any comprehension that you might just possibly be wrong any given subject too then?
Flight times are published as an average. Wind speed will determine whether the plane will be above or below this estimate on the day. It has nothing to do with the pilot going deliberately faster!!

spannered · 23/03/2024 14:44

Interesting window into your attitude. People who feel that reclining is rude, don't need their opinion "clearing up" 😂 it's how they feel. Quite patronising. FWIW, I don't think the article would exist, nor describe this issue as "one of the most polarizing debates in travel" if there wasn't a huge amount people who feel the reclining is inconsiderate, and a trigger for arguments.

Floofydawg · 23/03/2024 14:44

I fucking hate people reclining airplane seats, it's rude. I don't want your head in my lap thanks very much. So for that reason YABU.

PrestonHood121 · 23/03/2024 14:44

You can recline your seat any time, without asking anyone (of course not during meals but asking beforehand any other time is ridiculous). Your husband should back you up. I’m sorry that happened to you - if I was your seat mate I’d have backed you up against those nutters.

MonsteraMama · 23/03/2024 14:45

It sounds like you get irrationally angry about small things, and then vent to your husband about it and expect him to match your energy. As a very chill person who rarely gets properly angry, I understand his perspective. Do you know how exhausting it is to have someone very highly strung trying to froth you up every time someone "slights" them in any minor way? It's very, very exhausting! I'm sorry but I just can't get my head in a tizz about small things and wouldn't be able to even if my husband was frothing about it. It might come across as uncaring but it's more just... Inability to understand why you're so bloody cross.

I think you maybe just need to learn to relax a bit to be honest. I understand being put out by some of the situations mentioned, but anger? Angry enough to try and drag my husband into the anger too? Nah. Don't get it.

ZippedOpenMouth · 23/03/2024 14:52

Imgoingtobefree · 23/03/2024 14:25

My husband often didn’t support me, it caused deep seated issues among many other things wrong with our marriage.

I finally realised that my ex couldn’t bear for anyone to see him in a bad light.

We once lost our luggage after a long flight. We had to trek to the other end of a large airport to find the rep - when we got there, they said “just go to your hotel Im sure your luggage will turn up soon and we’ll deliver it to your hotel.”

I wanted a bit more reassurance of how long we might have to wait and what we did if it didn’t turn up by the next morning. My ex was on a business trip and needed to wear something semi formal the next day for work, and we had no overnight stuff either in our hand luggage.

After a bit, the reps offered us vouchers that would allow us to buy essentials until the luggage arrived. It was a reasonable amount and we went off and got chinos and a smart shirt for my husband.

Needless to say while all this was going on he stood about 15 feet away from us and said it was embarrassing when I was sitting on a low rail to talk to them. (There was no where else to sit).

He just couldn’t bear to be seen as less than perfect. He was perfectly able to take people to task when it mattered to him - but would rather eat a slightly crap meal than complain.

Another time we had decorators in who did a really bad job. He just wanted to pay them off as we would never have to use them again. I did talk to them and got a reduction. I thought I had done quite well, and when I went to tell him, he just said something along the lines of ‘I don’t want to know, I find it all a bit embarrassing’.

This was someone who expected me to thank him everytime he emptied the dishwasher “for me”, but would make me feel I had done something wrong when I had actually saved us a reasonable amount of money. I was generally in charge of admin - usually booked flights, sorted travel insurance, hotels etc, etc.

Its saps at you if you start to realise they don’t have your back, and won’t support you. But they fully expect emotional support and physical help when it’s their problem.

More like he knew you would speak up and he would look a saint while you looked like a shit . I bet he would have spoken up if you were not there .

pregahes · 23/03/2024 14:52

@MonsteraMama you're right. I often expect him to match my energy or at least understand it. He never does and it upsets me.

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Undisclosedlocation · 23/03/2024 14:55

pregahes · 23/03/2024 14:52

@MonsteraMama you're right. I often expect him to match my energy or at least understand it. He never does and it upsets me.

Sorry OP, but that isn’t a ‘him’ issue. It’s a ‘you’ issue

It isn’t reasonable to expect him to have feelings on a subject at a required level to match your own

MonsteraMama · 23/03/2024 14:56

I'm sorry it upsets you. It is hard not to be able to see eye to eye with your partner. He may never be able to match your energy, but you might consider having a chat with him about why it upsets you that he doesn't even try to understand why you're upset in the first place? He might just be trying to "not get involved" when all you want is a bit of solidarity.

Either that or consider getting a therapist if you can afford it - it's their job to listen to you be angry about stuff and they won't make you feel judged or unheard.

jengachampion · 23/03/2024 14:57

MN loves a pile on but I understand. You want to feel supported and backed up by your partner. You want to feel that they're concerned about you, not, 'Oh well, not my problem.'

TruthorDie · 23/03/2024 14:58

I have literally never asked anyone before l have reclined an airline seat?! It’s not that much an imposition surely; l can balance a drink / and or laptop if other people do.

He sounds like my ex husband, for the last 2-3 years of our relationship l was AKWAYS wrong. Statistically how could l be wrong every time for 5 years.

Everleigh13 · 23/03/2024 14:59

pregahes · 23/03/2024 14:33

@Italiangreyhound yes we have been together a long time, over 15 years. No children.

Another example, for those who want one - on the holiday we were on ( I rarely make complaints to companies before anyone piles on) but our holiday operator one the outbound flight kept doing things below standard such as delayed flight but then not speeding up the journey to be on time, bought food out late despite flight being late (so lunch was effectively after 3pm) and then dinner was close to 10pm, in flight entertainment was broken...there were more things that you just don't expect on a 10 hour flight so I started parting a list on my phone notes so I don't forget and can draft a complaint letter when I get home. The holiday was expensive.

His reaction is that I'm 'nuts' ?!!!

But none of that stuff bothers him! You’re fuming and drafting complaints on your phone and he’s just sitting there in relative peace getting on with his life and not fussed. I mean, if you want to complain then do it, but he doesn’t have to get involved. It’s kind of unfair to expect him to get as angry and frustrated as you were when it sounds like he was ok as he was.

Fannyfiggs · 23/03/2024 15:00

pregahes · 23/03/2024 14:38

@Hotdogity it's not a wind up! The plane was late back too but they did exactly that and that's what has always been the case when flights have been late!!

Like PP have said, it's not just a case of the pilot putting his foot down to get there faster. There may be parts of the journey where they can increase their speed but only if and when it's safe and they have permission. Wind speed and direction also play a huge part in flight times and aircraft speed. It's not like driving a bus 🤣

3luckystars · 23/03/2024 15:11

Right I understand you would like a bit of support and he doesn’t support you when you feel annoyed with people, whereas a friend or sister would step in and say ‘what a cow!’ And make you feel better.

Just one point though, I think I have misunderstood but are you saying you expected the pilot to fly faster because you had departed late?
if so, It doesn’t work like that.

Travis1 · 23/03/2024 15:16

People that recline are my pet hate on long haul flights. No I don’t want you in my lap thank you very much.

you sound awful and I don’t blame your husband tbh

dizzydizzydizzy · 23/03/2024 15:17

Haydenn · 23/03/2024 09:52

You should always ask before you recline your seat. The fact you didn’t ask in the first place puts you in the wrong. When you say you “politely asked” what you mean is, you’d already put your seat back, and were now passive aggressively escalating the situation.

Then the fact you got poor staff involved, just makes you sound like hard work. Perhaps your husband is just exhausted with it all.

I never ask. I don't recline my seat on short haul and make sure my seat is always up for meals. Other than that I recline it if I feel like
It. To be honest nobody has ever asked me
If it's on to recline.

GiggleHoot · 23/03/2024 15:18

DustyLee123 · 23/03/2024 09:49

Perhaps he felt you reclined your seat at the wrong time, so didn’t agree with you.

Get a life.

GiggleHoot · 23/03/2024 15:22

Your husband should have your back and as someone who works in the airline industry, I can tell you now that there is no issue with reclining outside of meal times - particularly on long haul flights. No one has ever asked me and I fly quite often. The only people saying you need to ask either only fly short haul, don’t fly (often) or are trying to appear saintly. Makes me vomit.

GiggleHoot · 23/03/2024 15:24

My husband is marvellous. We are two peas in a pod and he defends/takes care of me. It’s nice to be treated like a lady and be respected. If I were the Op I’d leave.