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Grandparents keep giving toddler milky tea

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MrsTrue · 18/03/2024 21:19

So for the third (maybe fourth) time me and DH have picked up our DD from grandparents around 6-7pm after they've had her for a few hours to be told she's had 'milky tea'. She's 21 months old.

We don't give her any caffeine at all and has asked them 3 times not to do it, we even offered bring round decaf tea bags for them as we drink decaf at home.

DH picked her up earlier to be told she had it again today. I'm really annoyed it's happened again and feel it's impacting her sleep. Apparently it's so weak ot wouldn't have an impact (it's the teabag they've used dipped in water and a splash of milk).

Am I right to be annoyed, or overreacting?

OP posts:
Wonderfrau · 24/03/2024 12:31

Goblet93 · 23/03/2024 03:01

I agree, in a later post I’ve said modern times now will not be the same when my children have children. That’s not going to stop me from educating the GPs based on research now things will inevitably change again but I’m doing my best with the information that’s available, same as previous generations did but that guidance will have changed and parenting should change with it.

Actually yes, I do believe not all safety knowledge is not universally known and that’s no criticism. My in laws served my daughter whole grapes, they did not know. If I didn’t fundamentally trust them, I wouldn’t have left my child with them in the first instance. This is not a criticism of them, it doesn’t need to taken so personally, it was a communication of safety guidance. Why would they keep up to date with guidance on caring for babies when theirs are grown?

I think in my mind I have drawn a distinction between safety requirements, that I accept not all GPs or even parents may know about, and general preferences over diet etc.

Non negotiables, such as cutting grapes, car seats, food allergies should 100% be spoken about and reinforced, just in case the carer (whether it be school/nursery, GPs, aunty, friend etc who is providing the care) is ignorant to these issues.

Preferences over diet, activities or clothing for example, which don’t have serious, immediate detrimental effects if deviated from occasionally, should not need to be stipulated and to some extent, I can imagine carers (be it school/ nursery, GPs etc) sometimes disregarding such preferences. The difference is that a professional setting will have the confidence to say, ‘Sorry, we cannot guarantee your child will be put down for a nap at exactly 12 noon, or drink a particular type of drink which is different to all the other children,’ unless there is good cause to.

There is clearly debate over whether a cup of milky tea of harmful and I have no reason to add to that, as it’s not really the issue here. I am just guessing that OPs request was taken as a preference by the GPs and as such, they decided to use their own discretion when making the choice in loco parentis. This is an error on the GPs part (given what they should have already gleaned about the OPs parenting style) and something that OP needs to communicate further with them about, telling them how serious she thinks it is. OP herself states that she is not sure that GPs took her request seriously and questioned whether she should be more forceful.

There is disrespect both ways in the current scenario, GP disregarding OPs request and OP failing to recognise the important contribution that GPs are making to her daughter’s life and maybe even considering further reducing contact over milky tea. Would the OP raise an issue with nursery if she felt the cake portion size was too generous or she if disappointed that her DD came home dirty? It may be telling that the GPs have not pushed back on what they possibly see as an overbearing request - and it’s clear they are not alone in this respect. I wonder if the OPs own parents have a better line of communication with her and more confidence to challenge anything they think is unreasonable. We don’t know the dynamic in their family relationships but from OPs post, it seems that DH didn’t challenge his parents over the tea on collection. If it is an issue they both agree on, surely this should have happened?

Of course OP is not unreasonable to feel slighted that her request has been ignored. What she does with that feeling is a different question.

Ocadoshoppingjustarrived · 24/03/2024 12:44

Your baby, your rules.
My house, my rules.
I don't have grandchildren but if I did, the day I got a list of rules that were not essential or safety based (although I would be miffed that the parents thought I did not know them) would be the day I refused to have the children alone.
I didn't bring up four children to be patronised by someone whose been a parent for a couple of years yet knows everything.
No way

Rollonsummer1 · 24/03/2024 12:45

@Goblet93 the difference is, wouid they comply with cutting up the grapes once they knew or would they think it's a silly faff.

That's the difference here.

Blondebrunette1 · 24/03/2024 12:45

MaloneMeadow · 24/03/2024 12:09

There’s a big difference between spending a few hours of quality time with your grandchildren and regularly having to look after them day in/day out. Grandparents are used as a form of childcare and I am amazed that this surprises you. I know for a fact that DM had better things to do than look after DD all day 3 days a when she was younger but that was the way things were. Of course she loved seeing + having DD but it was still a burden. She was happy to help out and I did not feel the need to give a woman who has raised 5 healthy, happy kids of her own a list of menial rules. DD was well and truly spoilt at her house but that’s half the role of grandparents and I wouldn’t have it any other way. DD was kept safe, healthy and happy and that’s all that matters.

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@MaloneMeadow the op isn't questioning their ability to look after the DC, she just doesn't want her toddler drinking tea - neither would the dentist. Why is that so disrespectful to the grandparents?! You're saying that if she can't accept their choice to give them tea then the grandparents shouldn't have to look after the children for free.... Where has this come from?? It's not even the issue. Why would they stop spending time with them and looking after them because of a tiny request (we clearly agree it's insignificant for different reasons) that will not affect them in the slightest, warm some milk call it a cuppa just don't use a tea bag-its not difficult unless they're purposely wanting to be.

Oheighthundreddoubleohtensixtysix · 24/03/2024 13:01

When I was a kid I would drink my dad's/ grandad's tea from their mug.

It didn't do me any harm.

MaloneMeadow · 24/03/2024 13:08

Blondebrunette1 · 24/03/2024 12:45

@MaloneMeadow the op isn't questioning their ability to look after the DC, she just doesn't want her toddler drinking tea - neither would the dentist. Why is that so disrespectful to the grandparents?! You're saying that if she can't accept their choice to give them tea then the grandparents shouldn't have to look after the children for free.... Where has this come from?? It's not even the issue. Why would they stop spending time with them and looking after them because of a tiny request (we clearly agree it's insignificant for different reasons) that will not affect them in the slightest, warm some milk call it a cuppa just don't use a tea bag-its not difficult unless they're purposely wanting to be.

The dentist wouldn’t want them having juices or fruits, even raisins either but where do you draw a line? I suspect OP hasn’t banned these things.

Whoknowsohyoudo · 24/03/2024 13:28

This milky tea thread has really run away with itself 😂 Teagate 2024

THisbackwithavengeance · 24/03/2024 13:43

beachcitygirl · 18/03/2024 23:08

The caffeine isn't the bloody point.

They have no right to disobey your boundaries.

I would be apoplectic

That's fine. Then look after your own kids and don't ask GPs to babysit. It's a cup of milk with a teabag dipped in.

Some of you need to watch your stress levels; all that worry and anger about truly insignificant things can't be good for you.

grandmaandlovingit · 24/03/2024 13:43

I look after my DGD one day a week whilst her parents are at work. The other grandparents look after her one day a week too. We are never given rules to abide by but I know how they parent my DGD so I follow their lead. Some things I agree with, others not so much; it's about believing that your children know best for their child. Yes, times have changed but not necessarily for the better. I remember my Grandparents looking after me and my brother in the 1970's. We had tea with sugar and biscuits and a whole host of things that would be frowned upon these days. This was the highlight of our day after spending hours in the garden with our Grandad, learning how to plant vegetables etc. I can remember the sounds, smells and sight of our Grandparents during this time as we sat around the kitchen table chatting away. Our Mum and Dad wouldn't have dreamt of telling their parents how to look after us. I think they respected the experience and knowledge they had. I know my daughter and son-in-law do with us. After all, we have one goal in mind - making sure our children/grandchild are nurtured to the best of our abilities. I hope our DGC have such happy memories of us and not ones filled with bickering and silly fall outs! You reap what you sow!

Blondebrunette1 · 24/03/2024 14:20

MaloneMeadow · 24/03/2024 13:08

The dentist wouldn’t want them having juices or fruits, even raisins either but where do you draw a line? I suspect OP hasn’t banned these things.

@MaloneMeadow I only made that point as I was saying it's not an outrageous request from OP, you're not even responding to the actual question in my post because you know you're being unfair. OP can ask her child doesn't drink tea without it being a massive issue and no one needs being disrespectful.

beachcitygirl · 24/03/2024 20:38

@THisbackwithavengeance I am the grandparent & I would never disrespect my dil's
Ever.

My mother crossed my boundaries all the time. To her cost.

If as you say it's "only milk with teabag dipped in"
Then they should dip in the decaffeinated tea bag as the actual parents calmly
Requested.

Some posters on here clearly think parents wishes are to be ignored. I don't.

Blondebrunette1 · 24/03/2024 21:13

THisbackwithavengeance · 24/03/2024 13:43

That's fine. Then look after your own kids and don't ask GPs to babysit. It's a cup of milk with a teabag dipped in.

Some of you need to watch your stress levels; all that worry and anger about truly insignificant things can't be good for you.

@THisbackwithavengeance if it's so insignificant & I agree (it's a small ask) why would they cause an issue by ignoring the parents wishes. Why is it a condition to spend time with their grandchildren?! Why is it so disrespectful to ask them not to give their child tea?! What if they were vegan and the grandparents thought that was silly and gave the child meat? Is that ok?

IGotTheChickyPop · 24/03/2024 21:29

That's fine. Then look after your own kids and don't ask GPs to babysit. It's a cup of milk with a teabag dipped in.

You're not going to have any family left with this attitude. Is it really so hard to just use decaf teabags?

Packetofcrispsplease · 14/04/2024 11:29

I saw toddlers tea in Tokyo , probably Houjicha or genmaicha .
It was packaged in ready to drink tiny cartons and my daughter pointed it out and said our grandson was a bit too young for that as yet as he wasn’t yet a toddler .
I don’t think they give children matcha 🍵 .
I’d not be concerned about extremely weak milky tea , I’d be more upset that they’re ignoring your request completely.

Samlewis96 · 14/04/2024 15:08

beachcitygirl · 24/03/2024 20:38

@THisbackwithavengeance I am the grandparent & I would never disrespect my dil's
Ever.

My mother crossed my boundaries all the time. To her cost.

If as you say it's "only milk with teabag dipped in"
Then they should dip in the decaffeinated tea bag as the actual parents calmly
Requested.

Some posters on here clearly think parents wishes are to be ignored. I don't.

How was it to your mother's " own cost" ? Do you mean she didn't get lumbered with looking after your kids? If so seems a loss to you not her. More free time for her and not having to put up with finicky demands

Maddie212 · 14/04/2024 15:26

Do you mean she didn't get lumbered with looking after your kids?

Well that's one way to describe spending time with your grandchildren 😳

Samlewis96 · 14/04/2024 15:31

Maddie212 · 14/04/2024 15:26

Do you mean she didn't get lumbered with looking after your kids?

Well that's one way to describe spending time with your grandchildren 😳

Some grandparents ARE lumbered with them far too often. I ( used to) have a friend who was always cancelling plans as her daughter dropped the kids to her and she was too much of a mouse to say no yet moaned about it to everyone else

I'm perfectly able to spend time with my grandchildren. But it doesn't necessarily mean as free childcare for their parents.

Katemax82 · 14/04/2024 19:52

My in.laws gave my daughter liver and bacon once....I was inwardly fuming but of course they had been providing childcare...

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 14/04/2024 19:55

Katemax82 · 14/04/2024 19:52

My in.laws gave my daughter liver and bacon once....I was inwardly fuming but of course they had been providing childcare...

What's wrong with liver and bacon? I was brought up on it.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 14/04/2024 19:57

Katemax82 · 14/04/2024 19:52

My in.laws gave my daughter liver and bacon once....I was inwardly fuming but of course they had been providing childcare...

I'm assuming you're vegetarian or vegan?
If so you've every right to be fuming.

Tourmalines · 14/04/2024 23:14

Katemax82 · 14/04/2024 19:52

My in.laws gave my daughter liver and bacon once....I was inwardly fuming but of course they had been providing childcare...

And what was wrong with liver and bacon?

redxlondon · 19/04/2024 08:24

Katemax82 · 14/04/2024 19:52

My in.laws gave my daughter liver and bacon once....I was inwardly fuming but of course they had been providing childcare...

What’s wrong with liver?! Very nutritious, had it all the time growing up and still eat it (I’m in my 30s).

Jux · 19/04/2024 16:46

We grew up on liver too, delicious stuff. I fed it to dd all her childhood too. My mum used to cut it into matchsticks and fry it up really fast. Then she'd use the cooked sticks to spell out our names on the plates. I did that a few times with dd, and then stopped doing the name because she loved liver without needing those sort of frills attached. She's visiting tomorrow and I'm very tempted to do the whole shebang for her!

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