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Is a size 14 fat?

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bubblebutt88 · 15/03/2024 11:35

I know it's dependent on the individual and a lot of variables - height etc but generally speaking would you say it's 'fat?' I am a size 14, I don't think I'm huge but I have a big roll of fat around my belly (thanks c-section and pizza) and I do feel like my face looks a bit bloated at times.

I'm certainly not thin or toned but I wouldn't say I'm obese either. I know id look and feel better if I dropped a dress size but at this time in my life with young kids, a demanding job and lots going on I just can't find the energy to focus on weight loss.

What are your thoughts?

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fleurneige · 16/03/2024 13:33

I was always slim and normal, but just a tiny bit bigger than all my skinny friends. A size 10/12, as they were 6/8. Men always said they much prefered my shape. After 2nd and 3rd child, I found it difficult to go back to being a 12, and despite being fit and healthy, and looking great according to DH and male friends- I always allowed my life to be ruled by trying to go back to being not only slimmer, but skinny. As a more mature woman alomost 60- I regret every minute I spent worrying about being a healthy, fit, strong and beautiful 14. Pressures from outside were always there, from the magazines and other women. Despite being loved and often, yes, admired.

So no, I cannot adhere to this new 'the fatter the better' that is out there as a reaction. Those massive women in the media, who seem to be pushing it as the new 'ok or even desirable'. Because it is truly unhealthy and a true risk to life. But if being 14 makes you feel like sh*t and worthless- time to re-assess, and ask yourself WHY. And who makes you feel like that. Probably not you, in fact. As said, body dismorphia is tragically very alive. Even at size 8- some will never ever feel they are what they want to be. More and more botox, plastic surgery, unhealthy and dangerous procedures, and on, and on, and on some more.

At the time of the menopause, my thyroid gave in. Despite treatment, I am constantly battling with my weight as I reach 60. And yes, looking back- I was fab size 14- and I wish I could have back every single second I thought it made me fat. Something has gone very badly wrong in our we see and value ourselves, and how other women judge us (probably worse!).

Bluegray2 · 16/03/2024 13:34

@WeaselCheeks

your mother sounds lovely

fleurneige · 16/03/2024 13:34

My skiny friends are all gone or are quite sick.

5128gap · 16/03/2024 13:48

Your post is a bit contradictory though @fleurneige as you talk about it being wrong to judge and value ourselves based on weight, yet your post is full of references to what men prefer women to look like, how your shape was preferred by men, how you were fabulous at size 14. Then you are critical of larger women for thinking and saying they look fabulous too. Either we should stop valuing ourselves based on our bodies and male preferences, or not. You seem to be saying that it's good to value yourself as a size 14 that men admire, but that bigger women and your size 6/8 friends shouldn't?

tittybumbum · 16/03/2024 13:50

fleurneige · 16/03/2024 13:34

My skiny friends are all gone or are quite sick.

By gone do you mean dead?
Which would be weird as every study shows that lean people outlive overweight people.
Overly underweight and obese both suffer with shorter life expectancy

CaraMiaMonCher · 16/03/2024 13:52

I’m 6ft, BMI about 24.5.

I wear a 10 on top, but a 14 on the bottom because I (happily) have a big bum, I lift heavy weights to build my thighs and glutes and have some muscle. Body fat percentage is about 26%, visceral fat score 2.

I don’t consider myself even remotely fat, but I’m sure someone will be along to say that I’m the heftiest heifer they’ve ever seen.

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afrikat · 16/03/2024 13:54

CaraMiaMonCher · 16/03/2024 13:52

I’m 6ft, BMI about 24.5.

I wear a 10 on top, but a 14 on the bottom because I (happily) have a big bum, I lift heavy weights to build my thighs and glutes and have some muscle. Body fat percentage is about 26%, visceral fat score 2.

I don’t consider myself even remotely fat, but I’m sure someone will be along to say that I’m the heftiest heifer they’ve ever seen.

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You look fantastic. Strong and healthy

LovelyTheresa · 16/03/2024 13:56

BusterGonad · 16/03/2024 11:09

Actually I've just checked. My bmi is 24.5. I am no longer classed as overweight.

If you are as tall as 5'10'', you should probably be using the adjusted BMI anyway.
https://people.maths.ox.ac.uk/trefethen/bmi_calc.html

New BMI Calculator

https://people.maths.ox.ac.uk/trefethen/bmi_calc.html

Givemegoldensun · 16/03/2024 14:43

Unless you are over 6 foot that is just not true. I’m sorry.

IcedPurple · 16/03/2024 14:45

VirtualRealitee · 15/03/2024 16:26

You're saying that like you think it's not true?

No clue. I guess I've lost sight of what a healthy weight is.

DungareesAndTrombones · 16/03/2024 14:47

I'm at my slimmest as a size 14 and I'm about 5 foot 10ish. When I'm in that dress size I have a flat stomach and would be described as slim.

BusterGonad · 16/03/2024 15:51

DungareesAndTrombones · 16/03/2024 14:47

I'm at my slimmest as a size 14 and I'm about 5 foot 10ish. When I'm in that dress size I have a flat stomach and would be described as slim.

For me that's a size 12 and a loss of about 1st 6lbs. But as I'm mid 40s and post menopausal I'm happy to be at this size and weight. Tbh I thought I'd never lose the excess weight so I'm enjoying the moment.

bubblebutt88 · 16/03/2024 16:01

CaraMiaMonCher · 16/03/2024 13:52

I’m 6ft, BMI about 24.5.

I wear a 10 on top, but a 14 on the bottom because I (happily) have a big bum, I lift heavy weights to build my thighs and glutes and have some muscle. Body fat percentage is about 26%, visceral fat score 2.

I don’t consider myself even remotely fat, but I’m sure someone will be along to say that I’m the heftiest heifer they’ve ever seen.

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You have a stunning figure, far different to my version of a size 14.

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Goatinthegarden · 16/03/2024 16:23

It just depends on the individual. I’m 5’6”. When I was a size 14, I felt I lookedabsolutely fine, although was surprised to find I had an overweight BMI. So I lost about 15lbs through running and cycling. I look totally different now and think I look huge in photos of me at a size 14. More importantly to me, I feel like a whole new person - I am much fitter and have more energy.

Lots of people dismiss BMI, but for me it turned out to be a useful indicator of my health.

Grapewrath · 16/03/2024 16:45

I’m 5ft 3 with a small frame and at a size 14 I looked fat imo. It’s very dependent on body types.
i find it so weird the amount of posts that reference what a man or their husband likes when taking about body shapes. What relevance is that?

tittybumbum · 16/03/2024 18:10

Grapewrath · 16/03/2024 16:45

I’m 5ft 3 with a small frame and at a size 14 I looked fat imo. It’s very dependent on body types.
i find it so weird the amount of posts that reference what a man or their husband likes when taking about body shapes. What relevance is that?

I agree. If someone's dh prefers them obese that's not really relevant to a conversation about what is or is not overweight or unhealthy

tittybumbum · 16/03/2024 18:11

CaraMiaMonCher · 16/03/2024 13:52

I’m 6ft, BMI about 24.5.

I wear a 10 on top, but a 14 on the bottom because I (happily) have a big bum, I lift heavy weights to build my thighs and glutes and have some muscle. Body fat percentage is about 26%, visceral fat score 2.

I don’t consider myself even remotely fat, but I’m sure someone will be along to say that I’m the heftiest heifer they’ve ever seen.

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You are significantly taller than most women so it would make sense that you would be larger. You must be in amazing shape going by your description.

CaraMiaMonCher · 16/03/2024 18:16

tittybumbum · 16/03/2024 18:11

You are significantly taller than most women so it would make sense that you would be larger. You must be in amazing shape going by your description.

I am a classic pear shape so naturally very slim upper body and have a rib cage the same size as your average 12 year old, I have a much more solid/sturdy lower body!

I did post pictures though, so you no need to rely on my description, you can be the judge of whether I’m in “amazing shape”, just no need to let me know if you judge that not to be the case.

NonPlayerCharacter · 16/03/2024 18:21

CaraMiaMonCher · 16/03/2024 18:16

I am a classic pear shape so naturally very slim upper body and have a rib cage the same size as your average 12 year old, I have a much more solid/sturdy lower body!

I did post pictures though, so you no need to rely on my description, you can be the judge of whether I’m in “amazing shape”, just no need to let me know if you judge that not to be the case.

I think you look fabulous.

WhoaJayShettybambalam · 16/03/2024 18:29

@CaraMiaMonCher you have the most stunning figure.

CeeceeBloomingdale · 16/03/2024 18:32

I'm currently 12-14 at 5'2" and I'm at least a stone overweight and I do look fat without clothes so for me, yes.

WhateverMate · 16/03/2024 18:34

CaraMiaMonCher · 16/03/2024 13:52

I’m 6ft, BMI about 24.5.

I wear a 10 on top, but a 14 on the bottom because I (happily) have a big bum, I lift heavy weights to build my thighs and glutes and have some muscle. Body fat percentage is about 26%, visceral fat score 2.

I don’t consider myself even remotely fat, but I’m sure someone will be along to say that I’m the heftiest heifer they’ve ever seen.

Tattoos blurred out deliberately.

I don't understand the point you're trying to make?

6ft is quite unusually tall for a woman and I imagine just about everyone who has said they think a size 14 is fat, would be referring to women shorter than you?

tittybumbum · 16/03/2024 18:36

@CaraMiaMonCher
You look amazing. Strong

I doubt anyone would think a woman of 6ft tall wearing a 14 trouser would be obese though. Surely no one has suggested this.

tittybumbum · 16/03/2024 18:37

@CaraMiaMonCher but you dint look like you have the rib girth of a 12 year old. 12 year olds are tiny. You'd look weird if you were a 14 below and 12 year old back size. And you don't look weird

NonPlayerCharacter · 16/03/2024 18:37

WhateverMate · 16/03/2024 18:34

I don't understand the point you're trying to make?

6ft is quite unusually tall for a woman and I imagine just about everyone who has said they think a size 14 is fat, would be referring to women shorter than you?

Not many of them said that, actually. They just stated that a 14 was fat. You're just assuming they would make adjustments for an unusually tall woman, perhaps because it's so obvious, but if it was clear to them, why did so many make silly blanket statements?

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