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To think perhaps he deserved getting punched??

265 replies

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 11:33

Tricky one as far as I’m concerned - violence bad but this guy was being a homophobic dick so…

Friend’s brother is a bit of an arsehole, winds people up, thinks he’s funny. I have as little to do with him as possible as he’s a right wing type who always thinks he’s right and could start an argument in an empty room.

So, Jeff is in a bar with his girlfriend. A gay couple - one ‘girlie’ one more masc looking ( apparently) - stand near them at the bar ordering drinks, minding their own biz.

Jeff, loud enough for half the bar to hear, says ‘ I don’t get it. If you’re going to go for someone who looks like a man, why not just go out with a man’ at the couple.

The ‘girlie’ woman says ‘what did you say?’ To him, he repeats it, and she punches him in the face. He falls over, his girlfriend is outraged, the gay couple leave.

For what it’s worth, I’m genuinely surprised he doesn’t get thumped more often.

YANBU - he deserved that! Homophobic prick.

YABU - he’s entitled to his opinion, violence is never the answer.

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AuntMarch · 13/03/2024 17:34

I expect he is more ashamed of being hurt by a "girly" woman than he is about his behaviour. (Because sexism often goes hand in hand with homophobia in my experience).
If it had been the other woman he would have only doubled down on his opinion so I enjoy the fact it wasn't very much indeed.

Alwaysgoingforit · 13/03/2024 17:53

I would have thumped him too, he gets hurt, so what? The gobby twat deserved it.

Coconutter24 · 13/03/2024 17:54

PToosher · 13/03/2024 15:35

If she approached him and he feared he was about to be struck he would be within his rights to defend himself.

But he didn’t defend himself, the question was about if he hit her back after he’d been hit. She didn’t hit again just the once. If she was to have another go or he saw the first punch coming then yes he is well within his rights to hit her or do something to defend himself but if he just hit her that’s not defending that’s retaliating

ohdelay · 13/03/2024 17:56

How are more of you on here not in prison? You can't punch people willy nilly as it is assault. You know, a crime...

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 17:56

Not sure what the relevance of all the ‘what ifs ‘ are. The circumstances are the circumstances.

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Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 17:58

ohdelay · 13/03/2024 17:56

How are more of you on here not in prison? You can't punch people willy nilly as it is assault. You know, a crime...

😅😅😅😅 prisons are full, everyone n is that - no room for the rest of us

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Starspangledrodeopony · 13/03/2024 18:41

I hope she broke his fucking jaw.

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 18:50

Gave him a nose bleed but nowt else. I think his dignity was the main thing hurt because he fell down in shock

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BlackForestCake · 13/03/2024 19:07

I saw a documentary once on how one well placed punch can kill or brain damage.

This can happen if a man is doing the punching. But I would be very surprised if there was any recorded case of a woman killing a man with one punch.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 13/03/2024 19:19

Itsallfunngamesuntil · 13/03/2024 13:49

I think the bar staff/bouncers/pub should have handled it, kicked him out and barred him

I would hope the bar staff have now banned the woman who assaulted the (homophobic) man

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 13/03/2024 19:22

GettingStuffed · 13/03/2024 12:43

If he was my boyfriend he'd immediately become an ex

If punchy woman were my girlfriend, she'd immediately become an ex 🤷

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 13/03/2024 19:26

anyolddinosaur · 13/03/2024 14:32

They should have recorded the conversation, called the police and had him arrested.

Or

They should have videoed the assault, called the police and had Punchy Woman arrested

DrJoanAllenby · 13/03/2024 19:31

The offended person could have engaged in a debate or robust discussion without the need for violence.

A single punch can kill as can a blow to the head on the ground when felled.

Hurty words are hurty words and whilst he may be a duck, the person who punched him is a violent thug who does not have any communication skills or the ability to turn the other cheek when faced with a fool.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 13/03/2024 19:38

BlackForestCake · 13/03/2024 19:07

I saw a documentary once on how one well placed punch can kill or brain damage.

This can happen if a man is doing the punching. But I would be very surprised if there was any recorded case of a woman killing a man with one punch.

you don't remember last year's case where Renuka (female) killed her husband with a single blow?

https://www.news9live.com/crime/refused-to-be-taken-to-dubai-for-her-birthday-woman-kills-husband-2359811

Not a happy birthday: Woman kills husband in single punch as he refuses to take her for party in Dubai

The incident unfolded on Friday at the couple's residence in an affluent residential complex in Wanavdi, Pune. The victim, Nikhil Khanna, a 36-year-old construction industry businessman, had been in a love marriage with his wife, Renuka (38), for six y...

https://www.news9live.com/crime/refused-to-be-taken-to-dubai-for-her-birthday-woman-kills-husband-2359811

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 13/03/2024 19:39

Or, a couple of years ago, Kelsea O'Hara who killed an elderly man with a single punch ?

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 20:28

Well, no-one was killed with this punch so that’s that.

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yourenottgebossoofme · 13/03/2024 20:34

I wouldn’t have punched him- a friend of mine did this to a racist guy who had been harassing her for about 10 minutes and she ended up in court… but I entirely understand the urge!

yourenottgebossoofme · 13/03/2024 20:35

DrJoanAllenby · 13/03/2024 19:31

The offended person could have engaged in a debate or robust discussion without the need for violence.

A single punch can kill as can a blow to the head on the ground when felled.

Hurty words are hurty words and whilst he may be a duck, the person who punched him is a violent thug who does not have any communication skills or the ability to turn the other cheek when faced with a fool.

If only it were that simple.

Rainynight09 · 13/03/2024 20:55

A single punch can kill someone. Imagine if had been the other way around. A member of the couple made a nasty comment towards him and his girlfriend, and then he punched one of the women. That would not be ok, would it? Put the shoe on the other foot and then see what you think.

WalkingThroughTreacle · 13/03/2024 20:57

BlackForestCake · 13/03/2024 19:07

I saw a documentary once on how one well placed punch can kill or brain damage.

This can happen if a man is doing the punching. But I would be very surprised if there was any recorded case of a woman killing a man with one punch.

Most one punch killings are not a direct result of the punch itself but more usually from the victim hitting their head hard on the ground when they go down. If a woman can punch well enough to knock a man down, and it doesn't take a lot of force if it lands in the right place, then she is just as capable of causing him to suffer a fatal head injury on contact with the pavement or floor.

All that said, that didn't happen in this case and frankly the level of contrived whataboutery on this thread is staggering and the motivation for it highly suspicious.

EarringsandLipstick · 13/03/2024 21:41

Starspangledrodeopony · 13/03/2024 18:41

I hope she broke his fucking jaw.

That's an appalling thing to post. 😳

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 21:43

‘Imagine if had been the other way around.’

it wasn’t. Circumstances matter, no? Like ‘what if it was 3 people punching him…’ it wasn’t. Nor two gay men nor the man hitting the woman… etc etc

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Kpo58 · 13/03/2024 21:51

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 13/03/2024 19:26

Or

They should have videoed the assault, called the police and had Punchy Woman arrested

How would they have had videoed either the abusive language or the punch? They probably wouldn't have had time to get their phone out and start filming before it had finished.

I'm not sure what words would have worked on the man (apart from 'you no longer have your job'). He would have played the victim if he got banned from the bar or asked to leave. Something along the lines of I was only speaking the truth/this country is going to the.../they can't take a joke, etc etc.

EarringsandLipstick · 13/03/2024 21:52

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 21:43

‘Imagine if had been the other way around.’

it wasn’t. Circumstances matter, no? Like ‘what if it was 3 people punching him…’ it wasn’t. Nor two gay men nor the man hitting the woman… etc etc

Hence the 'imagine' bit!

I think it's valid. The point being, punching someone won't resolve anything, will not change this man's homophobic views, and could have led to a more serious situation.

ApartFromAllThat · 13/03/2024 22:05

I'm very glad he didn't die and I'm very glad he got punched.

He asked why she wasn't dating an actual man, she obviously attempted to demonstrate in terms understandable to him, that she felt didn't need a man's protection.
"Oh, explanation accepted", he said, as he slide down to the floor.

The gf outraged? Was she there for all of it I wonder? Did she wonder if it was any of his fucking business?

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