To think perhaps he deserved getting punched??

[Blouseybiggal]

Tricky one as far as I’m concerned - violence bad but this guy was being a homophobic dick so…

Friend’s brother is a bit of an arsehole, winds people up, thinks he’s funny. I have as little to do with him as possible as he’s a right wing type who always thinks he’s right and could start an argument in an empty room.

So, Jeff is in a bar with his girlfriend. A gay couple - one ‘girlie’ one more masc looking ( apparently) - stand near them at the bar ordering drinks, minding their own biz.

Jeff, loud enough for half the bar to hear, says ‘ I don’t get it. If you’re going to go for someone who looks like a man, why not just go out with a man’ at the couple.

The ‘girlie’ woman says ‘what did you say?’ To him, he repeats it, and she punches him in the face. He falls over, his girlfriend is outraged, the gay couple leave.

For what it’s worth, I’m genuinely surprised he doesn’t get thumped more often.

YANBU - he deserved that! Homophobic prick.

YABU - he’s entitled to his opinion, violence is never the answer.

Amazing! Of course he deserved it - prick

He sounds obnoxious but you can’t support violence just because it’s against people you don’t like. He was assaulted. It’s wrong.

He’s entitled to his opinion but he is not entitled to insult and humiliate people.

He deserved the punch and more, in-fact I hope he gets punched every-time he opens his nasty mouth. Maybe then he’ll get the message.

Thats why you wind Jeff up right back and wait for him to swing first

But pricks getting their jaw tanned is a tale as old as time and you love to see it.

Might not be the wisest or safest thing to do, and it's not advisable given the potential negative consequences for the righteous puncher, but very satisfying when it goes right

Under what circumstances is hate speech considered acceptable if punching someone for it is deemed inappropriate? Would someone deserve a punch if they made racist, Islamophobic, or antisemitic remarks?

@Alicewinn , that's not a logical argument. Hate speech is not acceptable at all, but there is no point at which it is acceptable to assault someone for it.

I'm wondering if those supporting the punch would also encourage their children to hit another child who said something hateful / hurtful to them?

Silly comparison. Kids don't know any better/don't know the seriousness of hate speech etc. Adult know full well, and if they say it anyway then they can't possibly be surprised when shit happens!

I don't condone it and I've never got in a scrap in my life, but if the Jeffs of the world can't keep their mouths in check, that's on them.

It's one of those things where the puncher shouldn't do it but the punchee absolutely deserves it, I have no sympathy for them and am glad they were punched.

But accept its not the punchers place to dish out violence so they'll have to accept the consequences of their actions.

Like certain criminals getting beaten up in prison, the people doing it shouldn't be doing it and should be punished but I'm also not going to loose sleep over the victim getting a hiding

Sometimes you just have to speak people’s language and a smack in the mouth is all a Neanderthal like that will understand. YANBU. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I can see why him getting a smack is enjoyable, but you can’t translate that into a position that it’s ok to punch someone just because they are insulting. Come on, we all know this.

@nightmareXmas

Sometimes you have to deal with a bully in the only language they understand

There’s such a power play going on here. Entitled white man talking down to 2 women minding their own business.

I think you have to use the right communication with the right people, she chose that that and I bet he won’t do it again

The reality is that if you run your mouth you may get punched.
He is a twat who thought two women were a safe target for his bile. He was wrong.

That said, punching the homophobic twat for saying something offensive isn't ok either.

For anyone who thinks this is acceptable or funny, scale it up a bit. Say there's a right-wing conference going on, during which the topic of gay marriage comes up and they all agree they're against it. Is it acceptable to get a bunch of your mates to rush the stage and beat the crap out of the people there, on the basis that it's personally insulting to you?

Or maybe if there's a right-wing protest against gay rights, do you put out a call on social media for people willing to show up and sort out their abhorrent views with fists?

If not, why not?

What’s his colour got to do with it?

"His girlfriend is furious, thinks they should try to track the puncher down etc. he wants to leave it."

Of course he wants to leave it. He got put on his arse by a woman. His type cannot handle that.

People like Jeff often only learn by a good punch

As a white straight man I would suggest he's used to living without having to question much - he's living as a majority in a society which supports his every move and dare I say breeds an awful attitude of thinking he's entitled to confront two gay women quietly going about their business. It's bullying and it appears subtle but what it really is a disgusting power play. He wouldn't do it to a gay male couple because he's not more powerful

No arguments from me that he’s a prick. But the issue is his homophobia. I don’t see how his race fits into it.

Chat shit, get banged.

I once punched a stranger in the face in a pub in Clapham. He'd just groped my bum with both hands. I don't think I would do it now but I can't say I regret it.

Violence is always wrong.

That was a satisfying read. I'm glad it was the 'girly' one who threw the punch.

Neither should you feel regret. You were groped - hitting someone is totally justified in those circumstances. A physical assault is different from words though.

I'd say that's different as you were defending yourself against physical / sexual assault.

YABU. Would you feel the same if a drunk mouthy woman had said it to a gay bloke and his effeminate boyfriend, and got decked in the face? Violence is violence, if he makes a complaint she'll end up with a criminal record.