To think perhaps he deserved getting punched??

[Blouseybiggal]

Tricky one as far as I’m concerned - violence bad but this guy was being a homophobic dick so…

Friend’s brother is a bit of an arsehole, winds people up, thinks he’s funny. I have as little to do with him as possible as he’s a right wing type who always thinks he’s right and could start an argument in an empty room.

So, Jeff is in a bar with his girlfriend. A gay couple - one ‘girlie’ one more masc looking ( apparently) - stand near them at the bar ordering drinks, minding their own biz.

Jeff, loud enough for half the bar to hear, says ‘ I don’t get it. If you’re going to go for someone who looks like a man, why not just go out with a man’ at the couple.

The ‘girlie’ woman says ‘what did you say?’ To him, he repeats it, and she punches him in the face. He falls over, his girlfriend is outraged, the gay couple leave.

For what it’s worth, I’m genuinely surprised he doesn’t get thumped more often.

YANBU - he deserved that! Homophobic prick.

YABU - he’s entitled to his opinion, violence is never the answer.

If they had time to ask someone to repeat what they said before hitting them they had time to press the record button on a phone. Or there were witnesses. Yes the police dont have a great track record but they would have spoken to him and you can use the victim's right of review if it's not pursued.

He should keep his ignorant mouth shut. However, nobody has a legitimate right to hit someone.

Your yabu, yanbu don't offer this option. Violence is never the option and there are too many cases where a single punch cause dire consequences, including manslaughter.

Of course 🤦‍♀️ why didn’t I think of that?! I really must be a bit thick… or

1. Because half of it wasn’t illegal at the time (refusing service, smear tests etc)- 2010 was when this stuff was banned… although it still happens- but what good would the police do?

2. hate crime laws are relatively new- 2003 ish.

3. Do you really think calling the police is the way to deal with a school with these issues?!

Was I supposed to call the police and say “excuse me sir, my head of year was homophobic to me”? Or “excuse me officer, my child is crying because his teacher won’t let him draw 2 mums”?!

4. I was a child with some of it- it shouldn’t have been on me to call the police when I was being threatened by adults

5. I would be on the phone to the police every 10 minutes- and they wouldn’t do anything anyway (proven by the one time they were called)

6. I was more concerned with keeping myself safe and getting on with my life than trying to get a homophobic or disinterested police force to do something about it- you see your attitude of “why are you making a fuss? That is their attitude too.

7. even good, interested police officers are under funded and over worked- they don’t have time and resources to deal with this sort of stuff even when they want to.

Words like his can, and do, drive people to kill themselves.

So no, I can't get myself worked up that the homophobic jerk got punched in the face. In fact, if I had the video I'd put it on repeat as my screensaver.

I was responding to @blackforestcake who said she doubted there had ever been a case of a woman killing a man with a single punch

This put a big smile on my face, thanks for cheering me up this afternoon

When was the last time you heard of a woman killing a man with one punch?

It's not necessarily the punch itself that is fatal, it's falling (which the OP said happened in this case) and having a fatal head injury. Which fortunately didn't happen in this case, otherwise the woman would be up on a manslaughter charge

And it's not always a punch that causes a fatal fall - I've seen at least one case reported where someone was pushed, fell and had a fatal head injury.

He got hit, he fell down, got a bloody nose, was shocked. I think that was the extent of it. ‘Just sort of crumpled’ was was friend said she’d heard then stood up again.

There's one just last year in Yorkshire.

A 19 year old killed a 58 year old man she didn't know last year in Yorkshire with one punch. I'm sure there are others.

I'm appalled at the minimising of violence in some of these replies. There is absolutely no justification. She's worse than him in my book.

Did you just Google that?

Look violence is wrong, I'm with you on that. Sadly ignorant twats like that don't seem capable of listening and understanding. A short, sharp shock may be the only way to get through.

You are holding your book upside down.

I don't think the punch was a good thing, but at the same time, if you go looking for trouble then eventually you'll find it. So I guess I'm ambivalent.

A lot of women will hit men because they know most men are socially conditioned not to hit back. Also, some butch lesbians are pretty nails lol.

I think I would have clapped. He totally deserved that.

I can't feel sorry for him but surprised 87% of posters think it's OK to hit somebody who says something nasty. I didn't believe it when I saw the stats saying women commit more DV than men but can imagine it to be true.

No.

We can't cherry pick when we find violence acceptable just because we happen to disagree with what someone says.

I'm a dv survivor. There's a lot of men dismiss and minimise dv and claim they were provoked. It's utter bollocks. She assaulted him and was bang out of order.

No, I have family in the town.

I'm not saying he's not an ignorant twat. But you can't go around punching people. No excuse.

Violence is never the answer, but I could never find it in myself to feel sorry for this man.

Nobody has it coming. Resorting to assault because you don't like what someone else says is neanderthal.

That isn’t the same situation, for many reasons.

Im surprised that a dv survivor would minimise the hell that is dv by drawing a parallel between the two.

Another reframing of homophobic harassment as someone just saying something you don’t like.

I'm clearly doing the opposite of minimising. It's what some others on here are doing and it's disgusting.