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To think perhaps he deserved getting punched??

265 replies

Blouseybiggal · 13/03/2024 11:33

Tricky one as far as I’m concerned - violence bad but this guy was being a homophobic dick so…

Friend’s brother is a bit of an arsehole, winds people up, thinks he’s funny. I have as little to do with him as possible as he’s a right wing type who always thinks he’s right and could start an argument in an empty room.

So, Jeff is in a bar with his girlfriend. A gay couple - one ‘girlie’ one more masc looking ( apparently) - stand near them at the bar ordering drinks, minding their own biz.

Jeff, loud enough for half the bar to hear, says ‘ I don’t get it. If you’re going to go for someone who looks like a man, why not just go out with a man’ at the couple.

The ‘girlie’ woman says ‘what did you say?’ To him, he repeats it, and she punches him in the face. He falls over, his girlfriend is outraged, the gay couple leave.

For what it’s worth, I’m genuinely surprised he doesn’t get thumped more often.

YANBU - he deserved that! Homophobic prick.

YABU - he’s entitled to his opinion, violence is never the answer.

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FrippEnos · 13/03/2024 11:54

I used to think that 100% violence wasn't the answer.
But now 98% not the answer.
Because I know a few people that if someone had been allowed to hit them it would have probably changed their attitude.

Hoppinggreen · 13/03/2024 11:55

Option 3, he should have been thrown out of the bar and banned.
Having said that maybe he will keep his abhorrent opinions (which he is actually entitled to hold) to himself next time.

Couldyounot · 13/03/2024 11:55

Play stupid games
Win stupid prizes

fedupandstuck · 13/03/2024 11:55

@iwafs there are plenty of options in between a punch to the face and doing nothing. People on this thread have suggested things already, do you really need me to suggest some more?

Midnightrunners · 13/03/2024 11:55

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Fuck off yourself.

Misthios · 13/03/2024 11:56

He is indeed a homophobic prick. But still didn't deserve to get punched.

OneTC · 13/03/2024 11:56

Bashing people is rarely the best option but a loud mouth antagonistic dickhead getting floored doesn't really bother me much.

SunnieShine · 13/03/2024 11:57

Misthios · 13/03/2024 11:56

He is indeed a homophobic prick. But still didn't deserve to get punched.

I think he did. 😁

Midnightrunners · 13/03/2024 11:58

WalkingThroughTreacle · 13/03/2024 11:47

That would depend on whether the court accepted it as legitimately meeting the various criteria for self defence or if they considered it retaliation. Let's not drag this thread down to the tired old misogynistic debate of when is it all right for a man to hit a woman though.

Presumably the court would consider it violent assault in the first place then !.

FrenchandSaunders · 13/03/2024 11:59

Christ what an arsehole. I can just picture his smug grin thinking he's being oh so funny, looking around the pub.

Good for her, I'm glad she punched him and I'd have been pleased if it was my DD (also gay) for not putting up with this sort of shit.

ohdelay · 13/03/2024 12:00

WalkingThroughTreacle · 13/03/2024 11:47

That would depend on whether the court accepted it as legitimately meeting the various criteria for self defence or if they considered it retaliation. Let's not drag this thread down to the tired old misogynistic debate of when is it all right for a man to hit a woman though.

It is reasonable to expect a punch back if you punch someone. In what world are there no consequences for that? Slippery slope. She should have used her words and he should have been barred. Now she has assaulted someone and will deserve whatever happens next if he follows it up.

BananaforScale · 13/03/2024 12:00

Violence should never be the answer, but its the only language some dickheads understand…

Yeah she shouldn’t have punched him but if I’d been there I would have seen nothing, if you see what I mean.

Lanawashington · 13/03/2024 12:01

Well they do say 'fuck around and find out' and that's exactly what's happened here

TheCatOnMorrisseysHead · 13/03/2024 12:01

I believe that the expression is "fuck around and find out".

RoseNy · 13/03/2024 12:02

I don't think anyone deserves to get punched, no. I also don't think it will go anyway to addressing his ignorance so just a needless violent act.

Thelnebriati · 13/03/2024 12:02

I get why it feels satisfying but don't think punching him will have cured his homophobia, he might even use it as an excuse to punch the next woman who offends him.
He's a dick. I'd spend more energy avoiding him and his girlfriend.

Itslegitimatesalvage · 13/03/2024 12:03

PietariKontio · 13/03/2024 11:48

No, he didn't deserve it to be punched. What if it was a comment you did agree with that got someone punched? But others thought it fine cos the puncher and everyone else felt the comment was offensive?
There's a ton of other options both socially and legally to combat hateful comments, but violence is not the way.

Are you comparing homophobia to some other topic which is actually up for debate, and both sides and opinions would be valid? This isn’t a difference in political party or vegan be meateater. This is homophobia.

ntmdino · 13/03/2024 12:04

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What's unreasonable about the question?

It really depends on what was going through the woman's head when she punched him. Was she working under the assumption that he wouldn't be able to punch her back because social rules say so, or did she regard the potential for hospitalisation as an acceptable risk?

Noshowlomo · 13/03/2024 12:04

He fucked around and he found out!

SmiteTheeWithThunderbolts · 13/03/2024 12:06

I think it's unreasonable, solely because people have died from one punch or push (that has caused them to fall and fatally hit their head) and the perpetrator could face a manslaughter prosecution. So for that reason I think it's an unreasonable action.

Caerulea · 13/03/2024 12:06

ntmdino · 13/03/2024 12:04

What's unreasonable about the question?

It really depends on what was going through the woman's head when she punched him. Was she working under the assumption that he wouldn't be able to punch her back because social rules say so, or did she regard the potential for hospitalisation as an acceptable risk?

Isn't there a subreddit you should be skulking around somewhere?

x2boys · 13/03/2024 12:07

I don't condone violence and she could have been arrested for assault, but he was being a twat so im not going to losing any sleep over it

Foxblue · 13/03/2024 12:07

Ooh, she shouldn't have punched him, and I really do believe violence should never be used, but I must admit there is a small bit of my brain going 'good on her'. The amount of horrible comments people think is okay to say openly at and to gay women is WILD.
What an ASSHOLE though. Hope his girlfriend dumps him for being a stupid, narrow minded prick.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 13/03/2024 12:07

fedupandstuck · 13/03/2024 11:40

You need a third option - he is not entitled to be homophobic towards others, and violence is not the answer.

I agree. Who wants to click an option essentially saying it's fine to be homophobic, when it very much isn't. But violence isn't the answer and can't be justified because someone is a homophobic dickhead.

Mummame222 · 13/03/2024 12:08

Midnightrunners · 13/03/2024 11:43

Would it be OK if defended himself and hit her back ?.

Doesn’t sound like he got a chance as he was on his arse 😂😂😂😂